There is that aswell, but mainly I meant that he would need to bulk up more to break tackles like Gronkowski. I just didn't word it quite right. But to your point, he may indeed still be adjusting to playing at a higher weight. I think his weight is about right, at this point, being a receiving tight end.

Understood, but Jimmy is a different breed. He isn't as strong to break tackles, but plenty strong enough to fight for position and then faster than any TE out there to get away if he can manage to escape the initial defender.

I don't think you'll ever see Graham mauling people over the middle, but I think he'll develop some elusiveness.

Graham is still pretty raw fundamentally, so comparisons right now might not be fair. He still cuts off routes and misses the occasional blocking assignment. He's the perfect example of a talent that will get markedly with experience.
Is he better than Gronk? If it saves us money on his contract, I'll say no.

They're both awfully good ... and fortunately for TE fans like myself, there's a veritable cornucopia of good TE's in the league right now.

Like most here, it looks to me like Gronk throws his weight around a little better than Graham, but Graham probably tops Gronk in speed & athleticism. Criticisms of either are really nit-picking, though.

1. Gronk
2. Graham

It's not like it's a slap in the face to Graham or anything. Gronk is 2 years younger, more polished(due to playing football throughout his career), a better blocker, and has better hands as well as concentration. He's also built like a tank.

It's like the Brady/Manning/Brees debate. Does it really even matter? They're all elite beast.

Like what you had to say in the first paragraph. But dead wrong in the second. Well its like saying i like Coke better than Pepsi. It's the same thing..., matter of opinion. Mine Graham all day. Gronk is like dink, but if I would be too, money young, being a stud. Party Party like a star... ha, I would be in the league maybe three years???

I agree with everything except hand and concentration during the catch. I think Graham is clearly better at this, and the stats and visuals support it.
Gronk doesn't have the vertical or reach Graham has, and Brady rarely throws him a hard one to catch. Some of the stuff Graham pulls down is WR Sh*t, its nuts. Gronk wouldn't make those catches.



I still say their even

The guy used to play basketball,give him a brake.He is what he is,but what worries me is the fact that after his rookie contract he will ask gazillions and we dont have a second good TE like the Pats have in Hernandez.

Yeah, I agree it's like Coke/Pepsi when you're debating two guys so close in talent #1 and #2, but I gave Gronkowski a slight edge because he does what I like to see a TE do, run block/YAC, a little better then Graham ... now, if we're considering off-field personality & shenanigens, that's a knock on Gronkowski and I'm putting Graham #1 all day long ... I hate that 'party-like-a-rock-star/gangsta' persona so many of today's athletes like to project, but that's for another thread.

Oh...STOP IT!!!