The Saints ain't sinners
 

This spring, the football world was rocked by news of the organized bounty system operated by the New Orleans Saints over the last three seasons. The program allegedly involved cash payments for hits against targeted players on the opposing team.

NFL Commissioner Roger Goodell has been aggressive with his punishments. Coaches and management were suspended — head coach Sean Payton for the entire 2012 season; former defensive coordinator Gregg Williams indefinitely; linebacker coach Joe Vitt for six games; and General Manager Mickey Loomis for half the season. The NFL also handed out punishments to four current or former Saints: Jonathan Vilma, Anthony Hargrove, Will Smith and Scott Fujita, with linebacker Vilma receiving the harshest verdict — suspension for the entire 2012 season.



Numbers don't support NFL's punishment for Saints players - latimes.com

Awesome !

I think the truth is starting to sink in.....

It's about time someone in the media brings up this point. Where's the list of players sent to the hospital after playing us the past three seasons. Hmmmmmm?????

Beyond that, where's the proof any money ever exchanged hands?

We are sucky bounty hunters. Thank God these guys make a salary and don't have to rely on the bounty money.:smile:

Exactly. No one is denying a system was in place and punishments need to be handed down, but by george let's see this so-called "evidence" to justify the excessive penalty's that Goodell is dishing out at will. I feel like a lot of others that the system we had in place was much the same that other teams run and it wasn't to the degree that it has been made out to be. That's what pisses me off. If we were doing what they say we were doing then show us the evidence to prove it. :pissed:

You are not alone. Everything to this point reflects upon a railroad job being done on the Saints' organization and their players. It may not have been intentional, but it might as well have been.

This is why I am so excited by the Freeh's Agency and their investigation into everything involving the Saints. I have little doubt that they will totally discredit proclamations by Goodell and destroy the bogus claims of wire-tapping opponent's communications.

You got it Rugby, not much Bounty execution. Probably goes back to Favre where he was too slow to get out of the way of Betty White. Hope the whiner stays retired, Kurt got it the worse and he didn't cry about it.

I wouldn't hire us.

This article misses the point entirely. It's not how many were injured in a large data set of random and non-random events, it's were the targeted players injured. Where's the data on that? If the players who were allegedly targeted were injured during the games, AND the plays in which that targeted player was injured occurred in an illegal/questionable fashion (or that player was subject to "hits beyond normal course of play" that did not result in injury), then let's see the data on that.

Everything else is whitewash.

There's no need to review any data on the alleged targeted players. All one needs to do is look back at the games against those players. Aaron Rodgers didn't get hurt, nor did he ever take a hit that was even questionable. Cam Newton in the second game against us just got his ankle turned a little in a pretty routine play. Brett got his ankle turned, but even though viqueens fans didn't like the so called high-low hit, it wasn't overly malicious looking. And considering he stayed in the game, you have to wonder if there were truly a bounty on him why they didn't go back and finish the job. Warner got hit in a perfectly legal way after an interception, and he even admits it was perfectly legal. I find it hard to believe that play had anything to do with a bounty. Why would they wait for an interception to try to hurt him? and besides, he didn't even get injured, it just rang his bell.

And why just those players? If this is what the Saints were all about, why not a bounty on Manning in the Superbowl? Why not a bounty on Tom Brady earlier that year? Visual evidence speaks very loudly against these ridiculous claims.