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SloMotion 07-20-2012 11:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Saint_LB (Post 419943)
It sure seemed like there was...especially his rookie year. He got banged up a lot, too. I'm not arguing, but I am only trying to account for why he wasn't able to do the things he did in college with such frequency.

I know that your first response is that people are a lot faster in the NFL, but others have met the challenge and continued to excel in the pros.

I am only wondering out loud because it is curious that someone who had such success in college would struggle so in the pros.

Aside from the injuries, I think part of it is the offensive scheme he played in at NO in that he was as much of a pass receiver as a running back ... and when you got a QB like Drew, that's just the way it is.

Look at his first year with MIA ... who's their QB? Henning? Moore? Who's the other running backs? He's not sharing the load and gets twice as many carries as in NO, a lot fewer passes, so he busts out a 1000yd+ season ... plus he stayed healthy all season ... it's one of those 'right place/right time' deals for him & I think he's going to have some good seasons with MIA.

TheOak 07-20-2012 12:19 PM

5 pages of Bush vs Sproles?.... Its really a one liner.

:D

ChrisXVI 07-20-2012 07:40 PM

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Originally Posted by x626xBlack (Post 419975)
5 pages of Bush vs Sproles?.... Its really a one liner.

:D

I know, right?! How the hell has this topic gone this long?!

vpheughan 07-20-2012 07:41 PM

Whip, Whip, Whip. Why don't you move? You DEAD HORSE!!!!!!!

Crusader 07-21-2012 04:04 AM

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Originally Posted by WhoDat!656 (Post 419310)
Sproles 1st year with the Saints he breaks the NFL all-purpose yardage record.

Bush's 1st year with the Saints.... (what did he do?)

Bush had 88 receptions (I belive that was arecord for RBs at the time) to lead the team, his first year was a really good one.

I however think the Saints coachingstaff misused Bush during his time in New Orleans. He is not a guy that should get 3 carries, 5 receptions and a puntreturn, thats not the way to get the best out of him. Bush IMO is a rythm player, he need to get touches in order to blossom. And more than anything, don't try to just give him the ball in space, his best runs comes from the Pro formation with a FB in front of him. The Saints were stupidly scared to use him as a everydown back and that was his downfall in NOLA.

dizzle88 07-21-2012 04:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Crusader (Post 420084)
Bush had 88 receptions (I belive that was arecord for RBs at the time) to lead the team, his first year was a really good one.

I however think the Saints coachingstaff misused Bush during his time in New Orleans. He is not a guy that should get 3 carries, 5 receptions and a puntreturn, thats not the way to get the best out of him. Bush IMO is a rythm player, he need to get touches in order to blossom. And more than anything, don't try to just give him the ball in space, his best runs comes from the Pro formation with a FB in front of him. The Saints were stupidly scared to use him as a everydown back and that was his downfall in NOLA.

Whilst you are exactly right and I completely agree with you, it was hard for the coaches to give him 10-15 carries a week when he was constantly hurt, he might be playing but he always had something wrong with him

Saint_LB 07-21-2012 06:23 AM

I never have understood why guys who think a thread is yesterday's news or beating a dead horse don't just move on to another thread rather than trying to squash a thread. Try to look at it this way...

If you are the author of the thread, would you appreciate someone trying to shoot the thread down? I didn't think so. We try to treat everyone like family here...for the most part...and it is out of courtesy that we hold our snide remarks to a minimum and that is why we all love this place.

Personally, I have never seen a thread that compared Bush and Sproles and I thought it was a good topic...but then I don't live on the board so I am sure I might have missed one or two.

/rant

Utah_Saint 07-21-2012 01:05 PM

Typically I'm a stat nerd but in this case, I'll go with what I felt when I was watching them play.

When Sproles gets the ball I'm hoping he jukes a tackler and scores a touchdown.

When Reggie got the ball, I just hoped he'd run forward.

SmashMouth 07-21-2012 05:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Crusader (Post 420084)
Bush had 88 receptions (I belive that was arecord for RBs at the time) to lead the team, his first year was a really good one.

I however think the Saints coachingstaff misused Bush during his time in New Orleans. He is not a guy that should get 3 carries, 5 receptions and a puntreturn, thats not the way to get the best out of him. Bush IMO is a rythm player, he need to get touches in order to blossom. And more than anything, don't try to just give him the ball in space, his best runs comes from the Pro formation with a FB in front of him. The Saints were stupidly scared to use him as a everydown back and that was his downfall in NOLA.

Maybe... time will tell... his having to split time in the backfield here assuredly has lengthened his career in the NFL. Although he sure seemed to be made of porcelain at times. Or was that Kim's fault?

SloMotion 07-22-2012 05:19 AM

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Originally Posted by SmashMouth (Post 420154)
Maybe... time will tell... his having to split time in the backfield here assuredly has lengthened his career in the NFL. Although he sure seemed to be made of porcelain at times. Or was that Kim's fault?

Kim's fault ... you can't hang around a diva like that and not expect some of it to rub off, look at what she did to that basketball player ... look what Madonna did for Dennis Rodman, Alex Rodriguez ... women weaken legs, it's a known fact, ;) ... no sex before a fight, either.


Boutte 07-22-2012 09:23 AM

Yes, Bush was a disappointment in N.O. But a lot of that was due his being drafted so high and our unrealistic expectations. I think Reggie tried too mhard to live up to those expectations and it really hurt his game. I can understand the criticism because he did drive me crazy with the dancing, fumbles, bad punt returns etc.

But I think many people go over board in their criticism. Reggie was a valuable member of the team and became one the best third down backs in the NFL. He also handled the situation like a man and didn't sulk or become a malcontent.

Best of luck to him where ever he plays and in his future after football.

(And thank the football gods that we got Darren Sproles.)

Halo 07-22-2012 09:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Boutte (Post 420273)
Yes, Bush was a disappointment in N.O. But a lot of that was due his being drafted so high and our unrealistic expectations. I think Reggie tried too mhard to live up to those expectations and it really hurt his game. I can understand the criticism because he did drive me crazy with the dancing, fumbles, bad punt returns etc.

But I think many people go over board in their criticism. Reggie was a valuable member of the team and became one the best third down backs in the NFL. He also handled the situation like a man and didn't sulk or become a malcontent.

Best of luck to him where ever he plays and in his future after football.

(And thank the football gods that we got Darren Sproles.)

Agreed Boutte. Reggie had his place on our team. One of the best all-purpose receivers and decoy on any club I've see. I believe he was instrumental in getting us to the SuperBowl because he was part of the Sean Payton MACHINE.

All first-round draft picks are over-hyped and I think there's actually a mental syndrome surrounding most.

foreverfan 07-22-2012 10:29 AM

Perhaps the dumbest thread ever started on this website.

In case any of you missed it, Reggie Bush is the greatest football player we ever had. Wait.. wait... I realize I might be a little out of line with this comment. Aaron Brooks is the Greatest Football Player we've ever had.

Wilde18 07-22-2012 10:36 AM

Bush was for sure a big part of winning The superbowl and we can still be thankful to him. But with sproles we found a great replacement for bush. That's all we need: a smart and quick guy who brees can throw the ball to.


Somewhere over the rainbow!

Rugby Saint II 07-23-2012 06:41 PM

Mighty Mouse is mightier!!!:bng:


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