Originally Posted by FinSaint (Post 420734)

I seriously doubt that Carter is willing to go for a try-out type of a deal - he'll want guaranteed money up front, and it'll all come from Mr. Benson's pocket who just spend boatloads to sign Brees.

Bringing in loads of guys could also be interpreted by the players themselves as a signal that the staff doesn't fully believe in their abilities, which could have a negative impact on their performances leading up to the preseason. I do fully support the notion of creating competition within the different positions to get the best out of the players, but if there already exists a sufficient level of competition... I don't see the point in bringing in more guys who are not familiar with the system the other guys have been getting familiar with for the past two months.

And, naturally, the argument can be made that players should understand that it's a business and that bringing in new guys to compete is part of the NFL business and not take it personally, but there are a lot of young guys on the roster who have not yet build up their confidences to the level they are with vets, so I'd be hesitant to introduce anything to the team that might jeopardize their state-of-mind, especially with the otherwise crazy offseason the Saints have already had.

Now, if we were talking about bringing in a true impact player, as in someone like Freeney, I'd be all ears, but we are talking about a rotational player at best, so it has to be a "no" on bringing him in, IMO.

Originally Posted by x626xBlack (Post 420733)

We have until the first week of the season to hit 53.... Thats 5 weeks....

Lets go fishing, keep all that are big enough, try and keep a few on the practice squad, throw the best back....

Not spending unless you keep them.... We can speculate all day as to who will preform... or put them on the field for a month and see who preforms.

Originally Posted by x626xBlack (Post 420733)

We have until the first week of the season to hit 53.... Thats 5 weeks....

Lets go fishing, keep all that are big enough, try and keep a few on the practice squad, throw the best back....

Not spending unless you keep them.... We can speculate all day as to who will preform... or put them on the field for a month and see who preforms.

Originally Posted by x626xBlack (Post 420740)

Every player know that each spot is earned that year.... Warm bodies are brought in every year to motivate performance... They know they have to earn their seat at the table.

Remember the Beer Truck guy.. Micheal Lewis? Its common practice.
Those who don't want to meet the terms of preform to get a spot can refuse the offer.

No Body's that became somebody's.

Micheal Lewis
Kurt Warner
John Randel
Rod Smith
Priest Holmes
James Harrison
Antonio Gates
Wes Welker
Jeff Saturday


ALL un-drafted.. ALL unknowns.... that someone brought into camp to see what they could do.

Originally Posted by Rugby Saint II (Post 420764)

Uhhmmmmm.......I hope you meant throw the rest back.lol;)

Originally Posted by FinSaint (Post 420782)

While fine examples of guys who made it against the odds, those guys really aren't valid comparables to the situation Carter is in right now. Like I said before, I'm not against bringing in a big ticket impact player at this point in the offseason or some young guys looking to prove themselves worthy of a roster spot - but I'm against bringing in a vet who had a horrendous injury late last season and who, while being really effective, played in a 3-4 scheme next to Vince Wilfork.

My issue is not with bringing in guys to take a look at, but it's with bringing in Carter and, IMO, wasting money on him. Naturally I could be dead wrong about him, but I just don't see him as a risk worthwhile taking.

Originally Posted by x626xBlack (Post 420791)

Horrendous injury... Like ... ummm Drew Brees? How are you wasting money.... if he doesn't preform.. you CUT HIM.