Can Drew Brees carry New Orleans Saints sans Sean Payton?

sharke · 07-25-2012, 06:23 AM

Originally Posted by WhoDat!656

Not exactly true; I haven't seen anything saying 1-1-2013 Payton can return to the Saints.

Payton's return is based solely on if Goodell thinks Payton has 'learned' his lesson.

Payton returns the day after the Superbowl, per NFL rules

Wilde18 · 07-25-2012, 01:29 AM

Thanks for the info, dude! That is in fact good news. And with Drew Brees staying for the next 5 years we should not be too concernded. As I said before, you never know how the season really comes out for us, but the two most important guys, Payton and Brees, will stay. Good enough.

On the other hand, does anybody really thinks that Payton spends that year in Cancun on the beach, drinking cocktails and just sit and wait until the year is over? NO WAY!!! I am pretty sure that he has his ear and his eyes right by the team and always exactly knows what is going on. It does not matter who stands on the sideline acting as coach. I guess Payton does it all in the backround. Anybody disagreeing?

Halo · 07-25-2012, 02:34 AM

Originally Posted by Wilde18

Thanks for the info, dude! That is in fact good news. And with Drew Brees staying for the next 5 years we should not be too concernded. As I said before, you never know how the season really comes out for us, but the two most important guys, Payton and Brees, will stay. Good enough.

On the other hand, does anybody really thinks that Payton spends that year in Cancun on the beach, drinking cocktails and just sit and wait until the year is over? NO WAY!!! I am pretty sure that he has his ear and his eyes right by the team and always exactly knows what is going on. It does not matter who stands on the sideline acting as coach. I guess Payton does it all in the backround. Anybody disagreeing?

Unfortunately, Sean Payton cannot have anything to do with the Saints for his year in exile, as per the orders of King Roger Goodell, the autonomous dictator commissioner of the NFL. I'm sure Payton will have his eye on his team.

Wilde18 · 07-25-2012, 03:09 AM

I didn't talk about officially.....

It is not good if one person has too much power in a position like Goodell does. But it seems like this is a world-wide problem, same thing happenend in soccer -> Sepp Blatter - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Mardigras9 · 07-25-2012, 09:58 AM

Hope so. It's gonna be hard to maintain all season.

Wilde18 · 07-25-2012, 10:03 AM

Originally Posted by WhoDat!656

Not exactly true; I haven't seen anything saying 1-1-2013 Payton can return to the Saints.

Payton's return is based solely on if Goodell thinks Payton has 'learned' his lesson.

No way! That would be too much of power for one person!

Somewhere over the rainbow!

SaintsBro · 07-25-2012, 10:21 AM

Unfortunately it's true -- originally the suspension was specified as being until exactly the day after the Super Bowl, but then Goodell changed the punishment for Payton, so now at the end of the season Payton must "apply" to Goodell to be re-instated. Goodell basically moved the goalposts after initially handing down the original suspension to Payton, mainly to keep him quiet in the press.

Halo · 07-25-2012, 11:43 AM

Originally Posted by SaintsBro

Unfortunately it's true -- originally the suspension was specified as being until exactly the day after the Super Bowl, but then Goodell changed the punishment for Payton, so now at the end of the season Payton must "apply" to Goodell to be re-instated. Goodell basically moved the goalposts after initially handing down the original suspension to Payton, mainly to keep him quiet in the press.

I believe you guys (jcp and 656) but we need to get a link and make another thread on this foolishness.
Somehow I missed this in the shuffle. Now I'm more ticked off than EVER!

Cruize · 07-25-2012, 10:33 AM

I think 5 preseason games is a plus this year. Offensively and defensively. Simplify the substitutions and let Brees handle alot of the playcalling. Running 5 and 6 people in and out every play isn't necessary.

Rugby Saint II · 07-26-2012, 02:11 PM

Originally Posted by Cruize

I think 5 preseason games is a plus this year. Offensively and defensively. Simplify the substitutions and let Brees handle alot of the playcalling. Running 5 and 6 people in and out every play isn't necessary.

I don't know Cruize. One of the things that helps keep defenses on their heels is radical substitutions. Of course, we will have certain personnel for certain packages.
I just hope that Carmichael is able to mix all of last years plays and not become predictable. I would bet that he and Sean had a nice long talk before he left about that.

07-25-2012, 06:23 AM	#1
sharke evil decepticon Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: St. Augustine, FL Posts: 583	Originally Posted by WhoDat!656 Not exactly true; I haven't seen anything saying 1-1-2013 Payton can return to the Saints. Payton's return is based solely on if Goodell thinks Payton has 'learned' his lesson. Payton returns the day after the Superbowl, per NFL rules Halo and QBREES9 like this.

07-25-2012, 02:34 AM	#3
Halo Site Donor MONTHLY Join Date: May 2002 Location: New Orleans, LA Posts: 20,988 Blog Entries: 45	Originally Posted by Wilde18 Thanks for the info, dude! That is in fact good news. And with Drew Brees staying for the next 5 years we should not be too concernded. As I said before, you never know how the season really comes out for us, but the two most important guys, Payton and Brees, will stay. Good enough. On the other hand, does anybody really thinks that Payton spends that year in Cancun on the beach, drinking cocktails and just sit and wait until the year is over? NO WAY!!! I am pretty sure that he has his ear and his eyes right by the team and always exactly knows what is going on. It does not matter who stands on the sideline acting as coach. I guess Payton does it all in the backround. Anybody disagreeing? Unfortunately, Sean Payton cannot have anything to do with the Saints for his year in exile, as per the orders of King Roger Goodell, the autonomous dictator commissioner of the NFL. I'm sure Payton will have his eye on his team. Wilde18 likes this.

07-25-2012, 10:03 AM	#6
Wilde18 GERMAN WHO DAT! Join Date: Jul 2012 Location: Kaiserslautern, Germany Posts: 301	Originally Posted by WhoDat!656 Not exactly true; I haven't seen anything saying 1-1-2013 Payton can return to the Saints. Payton's return is based solely on if Goodell thinks Payton has 'learned' his lesson. No way! That would be too much of power for one person! Somewhere over the rainbow!

07-25-2012, 11:43 AM	#8
Halo Site Donor MONTHLY Join Date: May 2002 Location: New Orleans, LA Posts: 20,988 Blog Entries: 45	Originally Posted by SaintsBro Unfortunately it's true -- originally the suspension was specified as being until exactly the day after the Super Bowl, but then Goodell changed the punishment for Payton, so now at the end of the season Payton must "apply" to Goodell to be re-instated. Goodell basically moved the goalposts after initially handing down the original suspension to Payton, mainly to keep him quiet in the press. I believe you guys (jcp and 656) but we need to get a link and make another thread on this foolishness. Somehow I missed this in the shuffle. Now I'm more ticked off than EVER! Rugby Saint II and sharke like this.

07-25-2012, 10:33 AM	#9
Cruize 1000 Posts + Join Date: May 2007 Posts: 4,467	I think 5 preseason games is a plus this year. Offensively and defensively. Simplify the substitutions and let Brees handle alot of the playcalling. Running 5 and 6 people in and out every play isn't necessary.
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07-25-2012, 01:29 AM	#2
Wilde18 GERMAN WHO DAT! Join Date: Jul 2012 Location: Kaiserslautern, Germany Posts: 301	Thanks for the info, dude! That is in fact good news. And with Drew Brees staying for the next 5 years we should not be too concernded. As I said before, you never know how the season really comes out for us, but the two most important guys, Payton and Brees, will stay. Good enough. On the other hand, does anybody really thinks that Payton spends that year in Cancun on the beach, drinking cocktails and just sit and wait until the year is over? NO WAY!!! I am pretty sure that he has his ear and his eyes right by the team and always exactly knows what is going on. It does not matter who stands on the sideline acting as coach. I guess Payton does it all in the backround. Anybody disagreeing?

07-25-2012, 03:09 AM	#4
Wilde18 GERMAN WHO DAT! Join Date: Jul 2012 Location: Kaiserslautern, Germany Posts: 301	I didn't talk about officially..... It is not good if one person has too much power in a position like Goodell does. But it seems like this is a world-wide problem, same thing happenend in soccer -> Sepp Blatter - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

07-25-2012, 09:58 AM	#5
Mardigras9 Site Donor 2015 Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: Land Mass between LA and AL Posts: 4,375	Hope so. It's gonna be hard to maintain all season.

07-25-2012, 10:21 AM	#7
SaintsBro Site Donor Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: in line with my ridiculous CLEAR PLASTIC BAG Posts: 3,650 Blog Entries: 3	Unfortunately it's true -- originally the suspension was specified as being until exactly the day after the Super Bowl, but then Goodell changed the punishment for Payton, so now at the end of the season Payton must "apply" to Goodell to be re-instated. Goodell basically moved the goalposts after initially handing down the original suspension to Payton, mainly to keep him quiet in the press.

07-26-2012, 02:11 PM	#10
Rugby Saint II Bounty Money $$$ Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: 5800 Airline Dr. Metairie, LA. Posts: 24,207	Originally Posted by Cruize I think 5 preseason games is a plus this year. Offensively and defensively. Simplify the substitutions and let Brees handle alot of the playcalling. Running 5 and 6 people in and out every play isn't necessary. I don't know Cruize. One of the things that helps keep defenses on their heels is radical substitutions. Of course, we will have certain personnel for certain packages. I just hope that Carmichael is able to mix all of last years plays and not become predictable. I would bet that he and Sean had a nice long talk before he left about that.

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