Does he stay?

Seer1 · 07-25-2012, 08:17 AM

This isn't an argument regarding talent as his balls out style of running is a joy to watch, but with Chris Ivory again sitting out with a hammy already I just want to ask this. If Chris doesn't stay healthy this season, will he be cut next year?

Mardigras9 · 07-25-2012, 08:20 AM

Alot to be said for dependability, I say yes if the injuries continue.

FinSaint · 07-25-2012, 08:33 AM

To answer your question: no, he won't get cut next offseason, because he'll be a RFA, so if the Saints no longer need his services - they just won't try to re-sign him.

Ashley · 07-25-2012, 08:47 AM

Well, he is a blast to watch. I would say more than any of the other backs we have. I'm not saying he is our best, just the best to watch.
Now Finsaint is right, he wont be back then next year. Rb are a dime a dozen at the 3rd or 4th spot on a roster.

FinSaint · 07-25-2012, 08:51 AM

Agreed, he is certainly entertaining to watch, but unfortunately that brutal running style seems to make him susceptible to injuries.

xan · 07-25-2012, 09:24 AM

I don't think that his running style has anything to do with his injuries. This is a training/stretching preparation issue.

FinSaint · 07-25-2012, 12:41 PM

Originally Posted by xan

I don't think that his running style has anything to do with his injuries. This is a training/stretching preparation issue.

I agree that he could probably do lot in the training room to better prepare his physique to the pounding he gets, but I think that his running style also contributes to this as well.

His running style reminds me a lot of Marion Barber, very upward with closed hips, and like Barber, Ivory has had a multitude of lower body injuries because he never seems to lower his pad level to absorb the incoming hits.

Barber retired at 28 largely because of the injuries, and as of know it strongly looks like Ivory is headed down that same road.

Still, a heavy diet of Pilates could do him wonders and increase his durability.

mikesaintfan · 07-25-2012, 09:59 AM

limit his touches until the playoffs where he could be a nice boost...a wildcard so to speak...

SaintsBro · 07-25-2012, 10:15 AM

Originally Posted by mikesaintfan

limit his touches until the playoffs where he could be a nice boost...a wildcard so to speak...

I love Ivory and I get what you are trying to say, but he didn't exactly light it up against the 49ers when PT went down. Playoff defenses are tougher. If anything, I think Ivory does his best as a wildcard or unexpected feature back against weak or average running defenses, during the season, like when he ran completely wild over Tampa Bay that time in 2010. Pierre is more like the one who steps up and owns the playoffs.

Danno · 07-25-2012, 10:16 AM

Until Ingram can prove he can stay healthy as well, all 4 should stay, unless some UDFA makes a PT type splash in training camp.

I think the new NFL is going running back by committee. We have 4 really good ones and they all have minor flaws.

Now if Ivory misses the majority of camp, I can see him being a final cut since its unlikely any team will sign him.

07-25-2012, 08:17 AM	#1
Seer1 Site Donor Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Bayou Bayfield CO Posts: 4,722	Does he stay? This isn't an argument regarding talent as his balls out style of running is a joy to watch, but with Chris Ivory again sitting out with a hammy already I just want to ask this. If Chris doesn't stay healthy this season, will he be cut next year?

07-25-2012, 08:47 AM	#4
Ashley Site Donor Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Colorado Springs Co Posts: 2,760	Well, he is a blast to watch. I would say more than any of the other backs we have. I'm not saying he is our best, just the best to watch. Now Finsaint is right, he wont be back then next year. Rb are a dime a dozen at the 3rd or 4th spot on a roster. FinSaint likes this.

07-25-2012, 09:24 AM	#6
xan Professor Crab and Site Donor 2014 Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Princeton Posts: 3,372 Blog Entries: 34	I don't think that his running style has anything to do with his injuries. This is a training/stretching preparation issue. AlaskaSaints likes this.

07-25-2012, 12:41 PM	#7
FinSaint Site Donor 2015 Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Finland... formerly Southern Virginia Posts: 4,963	Originally Posted by xan I don't think that his running style has anything to do with his injuries. This is a training/stretching preparation issue. I agree that he could probably do lot in the training room to better prepare his physique to the pounding he gets, but I think that his running style also contributes to this as well. His running style reminds me a lot of Marion Barber, very upward with closed hips, and like Barber, Ivory has had a multitude of lower body injuries because he never seems to lower his pad level to absorb the incoming hits. Barber retired at 28 largely because of the injuries, and as of know it strongly looks like Ivory is headed down that same road. Still, a heavy diet of Pilates could do him wonders and increase his durability.
	"I'm not bashing people, I'm bashing their opinions because in my opinion their opinion is wrong" - Danno

07-25-2012, 10:15 AM	#9
SaintsBro Site Donor Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: in line with my ridiculous CLEAR PLASTIC BAG Posts: 3,650 Blog Entries: 3	Originally Posted by mikesaintfan limit his touches until the playoffs where he could be a nice boost...a wildcard so to speak... I love Ivory and I get what you are trying to say, but he didn't exactly light it up against the 49ers when PT went down. Playoff defenses are tougher. If anything, I think Ivory does his best as a wildcard or unexpected feature back against weak or average running defenses, during the season, like when he ran completely wild over Tampa Bay that time in 2010. Pierre is more like the one who steps up and owns the playoffs. st thomas likes this.

07-25-2012, 08:20 AM	#2
Mardigras9 Site Donor 2015 Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: Land Mass between LA and AL Posts: 4,375	Alot to be said for dependability, I say yes if the injuries continue.

07-25-2012, 08:33 AM	#3
FinSaint Site Donor 2015 Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Finland... formerly Southern Virginia Posts: 4,963	To answer your question: no, he won't get cut next offseason, because he'll be a RFA, so if the Saints no longer need his services - they just won't try to re-sign him.

07-25-2012, 08:51 AM	#5
FinSaint Site Donor 2015 Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Finland... formerly Southern Virginia Posts: 4,963	Agreed, he is certainly entertaining to watch, but unfortunately that brutal running style seems to make him susceptible to injuries.

07-25-2012, 09:59 AM	#8
mikesaintfan 1000 Posts + Join Date: May 2006 Location: new jersey Posts: 1,070	limit his touches until the playoffs where he could be a nice boost...a wildcard so to speak...

07-25-2012, 10:16 AM	#10
Danno Truth Addict Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Spanish Fort, AL (via NO and B/R) Posts: 24,747	Until Ingram can prove he can stay healthy as well, all 4 should stay, unless some UDFA makes a PT type splash in training camp. I think the new NFL is going running back by committee. We have 4 really good ones and they all have minor flaws. Now if Ivory misses the majority of camp, I can see him being a final cut since its unlikely any team will sign him. st thomas likes this.

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