Vilma in court right now - Restraining Order Hearing - Live Updates

CharityMike · 07-26-2012, 03:49 PM

Im getting a good feeling!!

Halo · 07-26-2012, 03:51 PM

@SportsLawGuy

Judge-arbitrators "sliced the salami too thin" on ruling that commish had jurisdiction.

@SportsLawGuy

Too soon to tell anything conclusive, but based on Judge's lengthy questions, field has tilted in Vilma's favor

FTW

CharityMike · 07-26-2012, 03:53 PM

sorry but what does FTW mean?

TXGSP · 07-26-2012, 03:54 PM

Originally Posted by Halo

The judge lists off more than five issues she has with Goodell's jurisdiction over these matters. NFL attorneys are jotting them down

Wish they would list the concerns.

If the judge finds the concerns overwhelming enough from these cases:

Could the current CBA be vacated due to the way it is written?

Interesting turn...basically on the eve of the season.

Halo · 07-26-2012, 03:55 PM

Originally Posted by CharityMike

sorry but what does FTW mean?

FOR THE WIN!

http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=ftw

Halo · 07-26-2012, 03:57 PM

IT'S A CAT FIGHT!

@rjonesTP

NFLPA attorney Jeffrey Kessler comes out of nowhere swinging with a fiery argument on failure to exhaust remedies

Kessler: We asked Goodell not to rule on appeal b/c panel had not been formed yet for Burbank's decision. It was they who forced our hand

Kessler: Because the NFL ruled on June 18, we are left with no other options. Panel doesn't exist. The failure to exhaust is a "red herring"

Beastmode · 07-26-2012, 03:58 PM

The tables have turned...Kessler could be finding a new employer if this doesn't go away.

Halo · 07-26-2012, 04:00 PM

Originally Posted by TXGSP

Wish they would list the concerns.

If the judge finds the concerns overwhelming enough from these cases:

Could the current CBA be vacated due to the way it is written?

Interesting turn...basically on the eve of the season.

Legal pundits are saying that the Judge is saying the NFL over-stepped their bounds (LEGALLY) on the Appeal. She's saying that Goodell should NEVER have been Judge at the hearing and arbitrator at the Appeal.

THIS IS HUGE FOR ALL THE REST OF ALL THE CASES! Not just this restraining order.

Halo · 07-26-2012, 04:02 PM

HERE COMES THE NFL'S CLOSING

@SportsLawGuy

NFL lawyer (Greg Levy) highlighting court's limited role in deciding jurisdiction of arbitrators.

@JohnDeShazier

She (Judge)has issues with whether Goodell complied with CBA

Halo · 07-26-2012, 04:06 PM

NFL ON THEIR HEALS FIRING BACK DIRECTLY AT THE JUDGE!
Don't think they're WINNING LOL

@rjonesTP

NFL firing back at Berrigan on Goodell's jurisdiction: "Those were findings made by Professor Burbank, who has seven years experience..."

@rjonesTP

Gregg Levy, NFL attorney: "I'm not saying (Burbank) gets them all right because we've lost a few."

@SportsLawGuy

Summing up NFL's attempt to tilt field back in their favor- judge simply doesn't have power to decide jurisdiction of arbitrators.

07-26-2012, 03:51 PM	#92
Halo Site Donor MONTHLY Join Date: May 2002 Location: New Orleans, LA Posts: 21,012 Blog Entries: 45	@SportsLawGuy Judge-arbitrators "sliced the salami too thin" on ruling that commish had jurisdiction. @SportsLawGuy Too soon to tell anything conclusive, but based on Judge's lengthy questions, field has tilted in Vilma's favor FTW

07-26-2012, 03:53 PM	#93
CharityMike Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: Mid City, New Orleans Posts: 3,556	sorry but what does FTW mean? foreverfan likes this.

07-26-2012, 03:54 PM	#94
TXGSP LET MY TEAM GO! Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Just north of COWGAL HELL Posts: 296	Originally Posted by Halo The judge lists off more than five issues she has with Goodell's jurisdiction over these matters. NFL attorneys are jotting them down Wish they would list the concerns. If the judge finds the concerns overwhelming enough from these cases: Could the current CBA be vacated due to the way it is written? Interesting turn...basically on the eve of the season.

07-26-2012, 03:55 PM	#95
Halo Site Donor MONTHLY Join Date: May 2002 Location: New Orleans, LA Posts: 21,012 Blog Entries: 45	Originally Posted by CharityMike sorry but what does FTW mean? FOR THE WIN! http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=ftw

07-26-2012, 03:57 PM	#96
Halo Site Donor MONTHLY Join Date: May 2002 Location: New Orleans, LA Posts: 21,012 Blog Entries: 45	IT'S A CAT FIGHT! @rjonesTP NFLPA attorney Jeffrey Kessler comes out of nowhere swinging with a fiery argument on failure to exhaust remedies Kessler: We asked Goodell not to rule on appeal b/c panel had not been formed yet for Burbank's decision. It was they who forced our hand Kessler: Because the NFL ruled on June 18, we are left with no other options. Panel doesn't exist. The failure to exhaust is a "red herring" SmashMouth likes this.

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07-26-2012, 03:58 PM	#97
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07-26-2012, 04:00 PM	#98
Halo Site Donor MONTHLY Join Date: May 2002 Location: New Orleans, LA Posts: 21,012 Blog Entries: 45	Originally Posted by TXGSP Wish they would list the concerns. If the judge finds the concerns overwhelming enough from these cases: Could the current CBA be vacated due to the way it is written? Interesting turn...basically on the eve of the season. Legal pundits are saying that the Judge is saying the NFL over-stepped their bounds (LEGALLY) on the Appeal. She's saying that Goodell should NEVER have been Judge at the hearing and arbitrator at the Appeal. THIS IS HUGE FOR ALL THE REST OF ALL THE CASES! Not just this restraining order.

07-26-2012, 04:02 PM	#99
Halo Site Donor MONTHLY Join Date: May 2002 Location: New Orleans, LA Posts: 21,012 Blog Entries: 45	HERE COMES THE NFL'S CLOSING @SportsLawGuy NFL lawyer (Greg Levy) highlighting court's limited role in deciding jurisdiction of arbitrators. @JohnDeShazier She (Judge)has issues with whether Goodell complied with CBA

07-26-2012, 04:06 PM	#100
Halo Site Donor MONTHLY Join Date: May 2002 Location: New Orleans, LA Posts: 21,012 Blog Entries: 45	NFL ON THEIR HEALS FIRING BACK DIRECTLY AT THE JUDGE! Don't think they're WINNING LOL @rjonesTP NFL firing back at Berrigan on Goodell's jurisdiction: "Those were findings made by Professor Burbank, who has seven years experience..." @rjonesTP Gregg Levy, NFL attorney: "I'm not saying (Burbank) gets them all right because we've lost a few." @SportsLawGuy Summing up NFL's attempt to tilt field back in their favor- judge simply doesn't have power to decide jurisdiction of arbitrators.
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