Any word on when we will find out who will be our interim interim head coach?
 

During Vitts suspension? I know a lot of people are speculating on Carmichal or McMahon, but a few things have been said by some of the staff that leads me to believe they may still be entertaining the thought of bringing someone in from the outside. I have a hunch this may be the case since I believe that each position coach is going to have his hands full with their own position. Spags is too new to our system and is a defensive minded coach.

It's already been decided on Aaron Kromer. The offensive line coach

Really? Where the hell was I? When was this announced? Damn now I do remember some speak of this. Do you think he is up to the task? I think this **** is just starting to sink in. What the hell are we going to do? Bad enough having Payton gone, but Vitt too. God the closer the season gets the more I hate this. Our first 6 games are probably the most crucial and we have to play them with a 3rd string ****ing coach. This pisses me off to no end. God I hope we can hold it together. We are definitely going to miss some leadership on this team. **** and Loomis is gone too, jesus christ Goodall raped us like a prom date. The least he could do is make it so the suspensions weren't concurrent. How in the hell are we supposed to win games like this? Goodall has screwed us to biblical proportions and gotten midlevel on our asses. WTF!

Joe Vitt: New Orleans Saints uncertain about interim coach for first six games - CBSSports.com


Aaron Kromer is an assumption.

Yeah. I hadn't heard/read any confirmation on the issue either - if they go in-house it's safe to say it's one of the trio of Spags, Carmichael or Kromer.

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We're bringing in Herm, because we play to win and we don't wanna piss off any more sports announcers.

Interim Head Coach the first 6 weeks - "Hey Drew, try and score 50. Hey defense, try to hold them under 50."

They said that it would be decided right at the end of preseason, based on evaluations and how they are feeling. Which is why everything you read about Kromer is not confirmed, but he is of course a really strong contender. I want to believe they may still look at bringing somebody in from the outside, but the more time goes by, it would be a very difficult situation for a coach to walk in to, to come in and coach after not having been there in camp and not knowing the players or the playbook or the scheme or anything else.

Remember, Dude, we have an extra preseason game more than everybody else, to work on all this. I think it's more likely they will try Kromer instead of Vitt in a preseason game, game 3 or 4, and just not tell anybody they are doing it, until after. Like the same way they didn't tell us that Carmichael was calling all the plays and was the voice in Drew's helmet, until after they started doing it that way.

As for the season, I look at it like this. If we end up being a bumpy 3-3 or 4-2 when Vitt and Loomis and whoever else come back, it is not going to be the end of the world. We can still right the ship and get hot in the playoffs. It's very important that people not freak out early in the year when things are going to be the toughest. If things aren't going well, I am NOT going to freak out until well into November. The Broncos/Falcons/49ers/Falcons/Giants segment of the schedule is where the real meat is.

If they bring in someone from the outside after preseason, that person would be nothing more than a puppet.

Agree, things will likely be shaky at first. I look at it like this, if a Col or a Major in the military have to step out and rely on lower level officers to take care of things it's usually not a problem.

Odds are they will make mistakes but eventually learn from those mistakes and probably improve it better than it was before since they are more open to suggestions and willing to try different approaches.

I think this is what we will see at first. Mistakes, corrections, and then back on course for the playoffs. What I'm concerned about is if we do make the playoffs there could be a problem with them all staying in their respected lanes. I think that will be the biggest challenge. Let's hope they decide early that whoever is in charge at the time is in charge period.

I assumed it was Carmichael since he stepped in last year.
What hurts is that this is when Loomis is out, so if the first choice goes sideways, we won't be able to make a change.

Carmichael + Brees can keep the team/offense together for the first 6 games until Vitt comes back...

Spagnoulo can't do any worse on defense than GW the past couple of years...

I ain't worried, I can't change any of it so no need to be

Pokemon!

It's okay guys, Loomis has already said Aaron Brooks is coming back for a special appearance and run as interim head coach.

I don't feel the exact emotion and sentiment as The Dude, but he has a point in there (somewhere).:)
I've said all along that the loss of Sean Payton for this season pretty much spells trouble.

How many teams are playing this season without their head coach?
How many teams play ANY season without their head coach?
Nobody really wants listen, and I can understand why. But these are facts and I know members will come here to complain bitterly at the missed opportunity due to poor elementary decisions this season and I want everyone to have this sink in!

How good was Green Bay without Lombardi?
How good was San Fran without Bill Walsh? Would they waltz into the Superbowl just on talent and Joe Montana's arm?

In football, the leader (head coach) is extremely important. There are "on the field" leaders who are field generals that bring the same tenacity and drive of the head coach to the field... they are generally NOT decision makers.

The head coach balances platoon based athletic military exercise with the chaos of the game itself. We have all seen teams that were bad under one coach turn to winning the next season with a coaching change.

Last year we saw bloopers, blips and blunders with Vitt and Carmichael at the helm while Sean Payton was out.

Don't preach to me about the Colts game! We ran the ball on pitch sweeps the second half to run out the clock. That game was as much a testament to how bad the Colts were.

Anyone remember the Tampa Bay game after Sean Payton was knocked out? Anyone remember the game management during that game? It took our sideline forever to call a timeout.

Who was in command during the Rams game? What went well that game?

It's going to be very hard for our team this season. I'm not a Kool-Aid drinker who believes we will coast into the playoffs and Superbowl on talent alone.

Goodell knew exactly what he was doing when he "KILLED THE HEAD" of the Saints.... he threw out Sean Payton whether he's guilty of anything or not. That's the biggest damage done to our team before the season begins.

I WILL BE IN THAT NUMBER EVERY WEEK! Wouldn't miss a game. Just food for thought.

Counterpoint:
Barry Switzer
Jim Caldwell

The defense rests, Your Honor.

And, the whole NFL world will be turned upside down when Bill Parcells comes out the tunnel for game 1.

Barry Switzer and Jim Caldwell enjoyed the luxury of being named head coach of a team and being on the field coaching and not suspended for entire or part of the season.

Switzer had extensive coaching experience before going to Dallas. He was also Jimmy Johnson's best friend and college roommate.

Caldwell is more analogous because that team was good based on talent on the team - Manning.
But Caldwell made some key decision errors to lose the Superbowl too.

I see your point Tobias.

King the Hack says his money's on Spag. He flat out sucked as HC. I hope they leave him alone to really get the defense dialed in.

But in fairness...we know AHEAD of time what is going to happen. When SP went down, I really don't think we had a PLAN in place for that and there was some confusion.

We have been planning on this for months now. This is the biggest difference in this entire equation. This is why I am not that nervous about it. Will we miss certain things, ABSOLUTELY but I don't think it is going to be as devastating as it seems.

How many of the coach's you listed above had head coach's in the wings as we do on our coaching staff?

I was with you until you said Caldwell was "coaching".

He was more like the secretary writing down what manning was doing for later reading.

How many of our coaches on staff have been picked off as head coaches?
Being called in for a legit body for interviews does not make these guys head coaches.

In recent times..Dennis ALlen..Curtis Johnson for Tulane. You are right, being called for interviews does not make them a head coach but it gives credibility to the fact that obviously they have the skills to maybe be a head coach.

But none of that is neither here nor there. The FACT is we have been planning for this. You can't honestly think that if we were say 3 weeks into the season and this happened, we wouldn't be worse off. That would be devestating.

SP layed out a very solid plan for the season. The staff have been in this system for 6 years along with our field generals.

I am not arguing his presence will not be missed. All I am saying is we don't need to go all "The Dude" on this and find a cliff to jump off of.

I'm being very 'Devil's Advocate' here. Everyone is making valid points, and I agree with you Mike about being able to prepare.

The GUT WRENCHING killer issue we face is when we lose a game etc. because the coach or interim misses a timeout, or we kick a field goal when we should go for it.... or we go for it and should have kicked the field goal. Shoulda, Coulda, Woulda - Sean Payton gets those call just right. I think 90% of the rest of the NFL screws those calls up.

Those are margin calls that make the difference between good teams and great ones.

We've been great because of those calls made on the margin. We also have fantastic clock management compared to ever before. Sean Payton will be SORELY missed. :(

Definitely not time to go all "The Dude"! LOL :D
I hope I'm so freaking wrong and we just kick major butt this year!!:crazy:

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I here ya bro. I get everything you are saying and that may very well cost us a game or 2 but for now....I am not taking my glasses off :bng:

All I know is that we stay inhouse.

I really have a hard time getting excited for this season. I just don't have that fuzzy feeling. Pair that with the fact we have a tough schedule and everyone in our division has improved and I have not reason to be optimistic. I will watch every Sunday rain or shine, but I am not getting my hopes up for a playoff berth.

How have Atlanta and Tampa Bay improved?

Atlanta dismantled some of their defense and let their coordinator go. Many agree with me that their defense was scrappy and a stronger point. They've improved their defensive back field but their d-line and lb's will be weak.

Tampa Bay is in rebuilding. They have a long road ahead and most don't expect them to contend for the division this year (either).

Carolina will be improved as Cam Newton is a stronger pocket QB than most give him credit for.

I still do see how other teams in our division have improved to cause you to lose optimism.

We DO have a tough schedule. I think I'm more concerned with out of conference matches than inner-conference right now.

Agree with all of this. Especially Atlanta. They have done nothing and 2 of the 3 free agents they brought in are already gone. Carolina is the only real threat in my eyes and that is mainly because of the defense being healthy. But for how long will be the question.

I smell Tuna

IF for no other reason Tampa got a new coach that the team will rally around. Atlanta has a new D coordinator just like us and it is hard to assume that we will get better under Spags but they won't get better under theirs. There secondary is much improved. Julio Jones will be better in his second year. Like it or not he is a hell of a player. Carolina has gotten key players healthy and will be a lot better on defense this year. Unless Cam has a sophomore slump he will improve and like you said he is a stronger pocket QB than people think. Plus if with our defensive backfield (which doesn't have a lot of depth) doesn't improve a hell of a lot, he has the potential of giving us fits. Yea we can still win the division, but we have more going against us than any other team in our division. Oh and there is that head coach thing.

You know what, I'm starting to think that way more and more. He is one person Payton can talk too right now. I know they said they he wouldn't, but they lie.

The season starts this Sunday; way to late to bring in anyone to coach...

boobs

believe in breeus

Haha! Pictures or it didn't happen.

C'mon Dude, keep the faith.

I'm telling you all it's Aaron Brooks!

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just let it happen