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Uh Billy?

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Eh? Uh? Huh?

OK, WhoDat, you found McCarthy and West Coast Offense in the same article. And your point? Hell, we all saw that info 2 or 3 years ago. No, I read that when McCarthy came to the Saints.

But, some of us have been telling you that it\'s only the West Coast in name only. I heard McCarthy say it with my own ears.

But, PLEASE, tell me how our offense is so much different? Please, please, please.

I\'m well versed on the west coast offense. Give me ya best shot, WhoDat. :)



[Edited on 25/6/2004 by GumboBC]

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Anyone else feel like he\'s watching a bad episode of The Love Boat?

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Love, exciting and new
Come Aboard. We\'re expecting you.
Love, life\'s sweetest reward.
Let it flow, it floats back to you.

Love Boat soon will be making another run
The Love Boat promises something for everyone
Set a course for adventure,
Your mind on a new romance.

Love won\'t hurt anymore
It\'s an open smile on a friendly shore.
Yes Looooooove! It\'s Looooooove!

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WhoDat --

You bring up a very interesting point about how you think McCarthy has scrapped his West Coast offense because Brooks isn\'t the right \"type\" of QB for the system.

But, I think you just don\'t understand the West Coast Offense or you don\'t understand how the West Coast Offense has evolved.

Furthermore, I don\'t think you understand the reason McCarthy is going to more one-back, 4-wide receiver sets. I think it\'s just another attempt by you to discredit Brooks by saying the reason McCarthy is going more to the spread offense is because Brooks can\'t do the job in the West Coast Offense.

Fact is, WhoDat, Mike Holmgren is doing the EXACT same thing in Seattle as what McCarthy is doing in New Orleans. Which is running a lot more one-back, 4-receiver sets. Am I to believe that Matt Hasselbeck is the reason that Holmgren is scrapping the West Coast Offense he learned with the 49\'ers?

You can make a stand and say Mike McCarthy learned the \"orginal\" West Coast Offense and he\'s changing it because Brooks isn\'t good enough to run it. Or, you can understand that Mike McCarthy\'s orginal offense that he brougt with him to New Orleans is MUCH different than the \"original\" West Coast Offense.

Furthermore, coaches are always tinkering with an offense. They are going to play to the strengths of certain players. And they are going to bring in their type of players and change the offense some more.

That\'s all you\'ve witnessed, WhoDat. I know you think you\'ve seen McCarthy scrap his West Coast Offense because of Broooks. But, it\'s simply not true.

A lot of us noticed a long time ago that McCarthy\'s offense looked nothing like the 49\'ers offense. I hope you soon figure that out....

Here\'s something I think you should read:


[Edited on 26/6/2004 by GumboBC]

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It is great how Billy was wiping his chin one moment after \"saluting\" WhoDat and the next moment Whodat is treating Billy like Ned Beatty in Deliverance........


I\'m out..............like the fat girl in dodge ball.

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Sure Billy, I don\'t understand the west coast. Traditionally the true Bill Walsh 49ers West Coast was categorized by quick short passing routes in lue of or to help compliment a running attack. It used screens, RBs swings, WR screens, belly unders, and a variety of other misdirection and/or short plays to slowly methodically move the ball down the field. Once you got used to the short stuff and crept up they hit you with a deep slant.

McCarthy\'s \"run version\" of the West Coast originally used Ricky and the TEs much more than the receivers. Unfortunately for McCarthy our TEs were bad, but...


More importantly, you just KEEP DOING IT.

So you\'re saying that McCarthy changing the offense here has absolutely nothing to do with Brooks.

Question: How well does Brooks throw a fade? Or any touch pass? What about a timing pattern?

So wait a second - McCarthy caters his offense to his players\' strengths and he\'s not running the West Coast. In other words, his players\' strengths don\'t fit the west coast system huh? Who would have guessed. Even that\'s new for me. Contradicting yourself in the same post. Wow, you\'re really taking your game up to a new level.

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Read my posts, WhoDat. I CLEARLY said McCarthy did not change our offense from a West Coast offense to a NON-West Coast offense. I said we never run a West Coast offense to begin with. McCarthy said the EXACT same thing. But, what does he know?

Has he made SOME changes? Yes!! But, what offensive coordinator doesn\'t make some changes? Has he scrapped the offense that he orgianally planned to run when he arrived in New Orleans becuase Brooks can\'t run McCarthy\'s offense? Please!!

Why do you even want to go there?

I was going to address the rest of your post but once again I\'m having to spend 90% of my time defending something I never said. And, quite franky, it just doesn\'t make good sense. :P





[Edited on 27/6/2004 by GumboBC]

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Speaking of things people never said - can you give me some proof to bad up your claim that McCarthy said that the Saints do not and have never run the west coast? Just wondering b/c his bio on the OFFICIAL TEAM SITE says he does. But, why would I believe Sport Illustrated, the NFL, and the Saints organization when I can believe you? LMAO!!!!!!!!!!!



HA HA HA... whew... still laughing.

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Oh, so you think I\'m making things up there do ya, WhoDat. Well, what about Mike Holmgren?

Where did Holmgren coach at? Green Bay was it? Where did McCarthy come to the Saints from? Green Bay was it? Where did Brooks come from? Seems Holmgren and McCarthy thought Brooks was the right guy for their system, WhoDat. Whatever system that might be. Hey, but what do they know?

Whew............

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We\'re not talking about Holmgren Billy. We\'re talking about McCarthy. So basically you\'ve got nothing then huh? You\'re saying some other coach did it so McCarthy must also? OK - nice try.

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Hey, man. I wouldn\'t lie to you about what McCarthy said. McCarthy was on Sports Wrap Radio, which I posted link for everyone to listen, and he said Andy Reid made a comment that the Saints don\'t run a West Coast offense and he said the Saints have NEVER run a West Coast offense. He says that the West Coast offense has evolved so much that it can\'t be considered that anymore.

You are just going to have to deal with the fact that our offense isn\'t the dink and dunk West Coast offense that you say Brooks isn\'t taylor made for.

Now, you can make a case that Brooks has some weak areas in the passing game and I\'ll agree with you. Just don\'t be trying to tell me he\'s not right for the West Coast offense we run................ ;)

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You do not like my dropped pass stat , but I am supposed to believe this Bubbba Gump ?? .. :P

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Bubba Gump? You know, debating with you is like a box of chocolates. I just don\'t ever know what I\'m going to get................. :P :P

Oh ... I never thought you were making the stat for dropped passes up. I just questioned the accuracy of the source you got \'em from. ;)

By the way, where did you get that stat from? I think I remember you saying it was from some place that\'s the official stat keeper for the NFL. Is that correct? If you have a link I\'d like to check them out.

Oh, now I remember. That\'s where I needed to pony up that cash to gain access to that site. :D



[Edited on 27/6/2004 by GumboBC]

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Stats inc.

They keep a boat load of stats during the season , they are the company that puts out that huge book at the end of the season of all the stats . During the season you can access their current stats online and get all kinds of interesting stats for a price . It can be overkill sometimes like nowing how many times a center farts during the snap count , but sometimes you get stats the N.F.L. site does not make public ......

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Which was more likely to stop a team from making a play off run ?
A. Low ranking defense
B. Lower completion percentage totals

Inquiring minds want to know ????