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I was thinking the same thing lol....

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Did she shed a tear when she said that?

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Levy- arguing that commish had jurisdiction to hear case and judge must give deference to RG and Burbank.




poor dead horse

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She.....

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Levy: Mr. Ginsberg largely argues against NFL on merits. I don't think I need to get into the merits

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He put his hands to his face and went nah nah nah boo boo and then stuck out his tounge

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Part of dispute Judge must decide is appropriate standard of review.Can Judge decide jurisdiction issue de novo or is great deference req'd?

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@pastoralmusings ...NFL was arguing that for judge to interfere in union issue, there would have to be treat of violence under federal law


HAR HAR HAR - Judge Berrigan shot that argument down

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NFL sez prejudging is a process players have agreed to

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damn it my feed went to stand by ..... NM

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LMAO - SHOCKWAVES ALREADY -

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Levy- CBA requires RG to prejudge disciplinary issues. NFLPA,and Kessler, agreed to this process in the CBA. PA agreed to this inherent bias


Levy addressing point that Goodell "prejudged" players. Says it's called for by CBA that the NFLPA's "intelligent counsel" agreed to



Mine too

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Like how Goodell prejudged these players in the same process??

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Goodell "prejudge" players cause the Saints ruined the chance for Farve Manning Superbowl and the player lawsuits

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Levy- commish was prepared to punish players at same time as coaches, but PA asked them to wait so could do own investigation.They never did


Comments in standby mode but updates still coming

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If you guys run into a hiccup, just click "refresh" on the page and everything should straighten out....

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Levy- process requires RG to declare guilt of player before hearing appeal. That's not improper and not reason to vacate

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so the whole appeal process is THE sham. so they were prejudged and RG was telling them to come in a plead their case?!?!?!? What BS. basically he wants the dumb jocks to feel as though they have a chance because, lets be honest, none of them have read the CBA until now. Classic case of taking advantage of the lesser mind. GOD I HATE RG!!

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Another reason why they need to get this ass clown out of office ASAP not only is he turning the game we love into flag football but he's screwing over the players left and right

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NFL pointing to Ben Roethlisberger suspension reduction as proof that Goodell is fair/reduces suspensions after hearing players out

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Didn't hurt Ben is a 2 time champ

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Or maybe Roger doesn't mind his QBs raping college girls, who knows

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NFL made mention of cases where suspensions have been reduced, even when there was no appeal

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Still no word.

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Judge makes clear,again, that she believes that players adequately participated in appeal before RG.


BOOM!

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"Levy: I accept your judgment that they did not fail to exhaust in appeals hearing. But they need to show Goodell's bias had impact "



Roethlisberger had suspension shortened after informal conversation with commish, not an appeals hearing

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Here's hopeing Vilma will win !

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RG is so full of it, I really hope this costs him his job

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Judge- players were caught between rock and hard place.If they argued case before RG on appeal, they might have lost jutisdictional argument

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Levy closing by emphasizing that Judge must defer to collectively bargained process. Point of law is to keep courts out of these disputes.



Drum roll...

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Judge wonders if "conduct detrimental" is too broad, a catch-all for commish to discipline

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Berrigan: "You're making me feel very powerless over here. But I know that's your position." Levy: "Your honor I fully recognize your power"

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a626xBlack are in the hearing

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That's a nice way of saying "I'm more powerful than you can imagine..."

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Judge again suggesting that this was pay for performance and thus not within commish's jurisdiction.

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That get the deal done

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He's pulling from twitter or whatever resources available...

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Nope just relaying tweet feed while at work. ;-)

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Hey Roger are DUI's and assault charges considered "conduct detrimental" to the league .... suspend those thugs as well, hypocrite

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