Re: Saints sign LB Barrett Rudd
 

The Saints need pure LBs. Merriman is not that good at pure LB. He made his claim to fame in SD rushing the passer off a 3-4. Not a really good fit here.

Re: Saints trade Seahawks for LB Barrett Rudd for Undisclosed Pick
 

Im not sure i see the point in this trade.
Why waste a draft pick on a injury prone vet.Surely there would be free agents out there that could do the same job.

Re: Saints trade Seahawks for LB Barrett Rudd for Undisclosed Pick
 

Been awhile since I have heard anything regarding Rudd. This is clearly a need and I would feel he came really cheap. Overall a space filler.

Re: Saints trade Seahawks for LB Barrett Rudd for Undisclosed Pick
 

Ruud had shoulder surgery this offseason;

Barrett Ruud scheduled for surgery next week | Titans Insider

"The eight-year pro was limited during training camp because he’s recovering from groin, knee and shoulder injuries he suffered last season."

Barrett Ruud back in NFC South

Re: Saints trade Seahawks for LB Barrett Rudd for Undisclosed Pick
 

Solid vet. Worth a look.

Re: Saints acquire LB Barrett Rudd from Seahawks for an Undisclosed Pick
 

This is a solid pickup. And maybe Rudd can teach our boys how to tackle.

Re: Saints acquire LB Barrett Rudd from Seahawks for an Undisclosed Pick
 

Remember this guy as a high functioning linebacker with the Tampa Bay Buccaneers. He journeyed off to Tennessee then to Seattle, now to NOLA. For several years he led the Bucs in tackles.

Totally agree, let's hope he brings a solid TACKLING ethic.

Re: Saints acquire LB Barrett Rudd from Seahawks for an Undisclosed Pick
 

We have learned that some players that do terrible at one team can actually flourish at another. Its all about fit.

If Loomis grabbed him it is either because he is better than his play has shown, or he is the best available. He is still better than Shanle.

Our front office has been pretty damn good at finding diamonds in the rough.....

Regardless of how you feel about Rudd, he probably will not see much of the field after week 2.

I look at Rudd as more of a replacement for Humber

Hawthorn and Lofton are projected to be back around week 1.

Re: Saints acquire LB Barrett Rudd from Seahawks for an Undisclosed Pick
 

Last night on WWLTV and Fox8Live Humber was projected to play in remaining preseason games. Apparently the Saints signed him knowing he had a 3 game suspension coming.

Again, the Humber suspension was not something new. It became apparent when Lofton and Hawthorne were reported as injured from the Jags game.

Re: Saints acquire LB Barrett Rudd from Seahawks for an Undisclosed Pick
 

He was a beast with the Huskers. Unfortunately the injuries and age have diminished his ability. But not a bad move, he's got a world of starting experience if he can stay healthy.

Re: Saints acquire LB Barrett Rudd from Seahawks for an Undisclosed Pick
 

Exactly, Humbers suspension was not a biggie being a back up, but when your two starters are hurt and your back up goes down it is time to get a back up for the back up in case the starters can start but go down or cant run a full game..

Re: Saints acquire LB Barrett Rudd from Seahawks for an Undisclosed Pick
 

I wonder if our RIDICULOUSLY ALL PRO OFFENSIVE LINE might have been who's jock he was eating and who was knocking him on his arse all day...I am more curious about how he did against other running backs than how he did against us.

He is a longtime vet with an injury list as long as my arm, but realistically he only might be needed for the first half of the season if we get some of these other injuries and suspensions back. Remember how Mike McKenzie came back off the street and looked like an amazing baller against the Pats, everybody was like YEAHHHHHH, and he was good for about a half game after that, then dropped off and looked bad and we cut him when other people came back from injuries. That's really all we might need from this dude here. Or maybe we get more from him, who knows.

Re: Saints acquire LB Barrett Rudd from Seahawks for an Undisclosed Pick
 

I am going stat and info mining.... Ill see what I can come up with

Re: Saints acquire LB Barrett Rudd from Seahawks for an Undisclosed Pick
 

Difference was that MM didn't cost us a draft pick. However I feel that our FO would never trade for a guy unless they had a really good feeling about him.

Re: Saints trade Seahawks for LB Barrett Rudd for Undisclosed Pick
 

You do know that he and Shanle were college teammates at Nebraska right?

Re: Saints trade Seahawks for LB Barrett Rudd for Undisclosed Pick
 

I knew they both played for Nebraska.
Shanle drafted in 2003
Ruud in 2005

So yeah, didn't think of that! :clown:

Re: Saints acquire LB Barrett Rudd from Seahawks for an Undisclosed Pick
 

It's a conditional pick based upon Rudd making the team and how much he plays. It will probably be a 5th rounder.

Re: Saints acquire LB Barrett Rudd from Seahawks for an Undisclosed Pick
 

The guy was a very good player a long time ago. Now he's just a journeyman MLB that we probably give a 7th for, and he's merely insurance in case Lofton can't go week 1.

He can probably still bring it for a few games, which is all we really need.

Re: Saints acquire LB Barrett Rudd from Seahawks for an Undisclosed Pick
 

If he's smart, he'd be an upgrade. Pass him some boudin and a hushpuppy.

Re: Saints acquire LB Barrett Rudd from Seahawks for an Undisclosed Pick
 

He was the bucs leading tackler for four years straight! Got 200 tackles one year! Don't know what he's got left but he was a beast for awhile.

Re: Saints acquire LB Barrett Rudd from Seahawks for an Undisclosed Pick
 

That's my thought also. We could have brought in a FA retread, but committing a pick means we must like him. I remember he had a couple of really strong games against us- 10 tackles twice in past couple years

Merriman moved to DE to revive his career and it didn't work, so I'd pass

Re: Saints acquire LB Barrett Rudd from Seahawks for an Undisclosed Pick
 

Merriman is a risk for anyone. In 2010 he suffered an Achilles tendon injury in the first ever practice after the Bills picked him up. Bills put him IR and Merriman signed a 2 year extension with 5 million guaranteed. One year later, in October of 2011, Merriman suffered a torn Achilles tendon and the Bills released him. For 2012, the Bills switched to a 4-3 and moved Merriman to end, then released him.

I think Merriman is plagued with injuries and I can tell you from experience, if you injure your Achilles, you never forget it the rest of your life. Knowing our front office, Ruud was probably the best talent for the right price on the market. :bng:

Re: Saints acquire LB Barrett Rudd from Seahawks for an Undisclosed Pick
 

If we wanted a DE wouldn't Andre Carter be worth a look before Merriman.

Re: Saints acquire LB Barrett Rudd from Seahawks for an Undisclosed Pick
 

Probably could have been because the Bucs Dline was garbage. You dont really get the whole story when it comes to looking at tackles.

Re: Saints acquire LB Barrett Rudd from Seahawks for an Undisclosed Pick
 

I'll take a healthy bum over a handi-capped stud .....He might accidentally make a play..... or two

Re: Saints acquire LB Barrett Rudd from Seahawks for an Undisclosed Pick
 

Yeah, I don't see us offering anything higher than a 6th or 7th round draft pick. He is coming off surgery and is value seems relatively low but he could pull a Sharper and revive his career.

Re: Saints acquire LB Barrett Rudd from Seahawks for an Undisclosed Pick
 

Yeah, that's what I meant. More metaphorical than a literal comparison.

Re: Saints acquire LB Barrett Rudd from Seahawks for an Undisclosed Pick
 

Larry Holder‏@Larry_Holder

#Saints GM Mickey Loomis said LB Barrett Ruud has passed his physical today. So Ruud should be full go for Wednesday's practice.

Re: Saints acquire LB Barrett Rudd from Seahawks for an Undisclosed Pick
 

He was the odd man out in Seattle; it looks like he was an insurance policy in case the guy they moved down to draft didn't cut it
I think it's a good pick up and that he'll see significant time on 9/10, and might even start

Re: Saints acquire LB Barrett Rudd from Seahawks for an Undisclosed Pick
 

I doubt this is considered a long term solution, but probably plugs a hole for now and maybe a backup who provides some ST help

Re: Saints trade Seahawks for LB Barrett Rudd for Undisclosed Pick
 

His technique probably is, but I can't imagine he has Shanle's closing speed.

Re: Saints acquire LB Barrett Rudd from Seahawks for an Undisclosed Pick
 

I doubt he will play ST's, but he can start in the immediate future and will be great depth...

Re: Saints trade Seahawks for LB Barrett Rudd for Undisclosed Pick
 

I'll take "Blatently Obvious Statements" for 200 Alex! :p

Re: Saints acquire LB Barrett Rudd from Seahawks for an Undisclosed Pick
 

Somebody made the effort to go out and get the guy. We could have picked some scrub from the trash heap but the people who brought us Junior Gallette, Chris Ivory and Isa Quduus saw fit to trade for him so I'm good with it.

Re: Saints acquire LB Barrett Rudd from Seahawks for an Undisclosed Pick
 

Excellent point, and let me add...

Pierre Thomas, Jo-Lonn Dunbar, De La Puente, Lance Moore, Vilma (who many thought was over), Dave Thomas, Scott Shanle (OK bad example), Casillas, Hartley, Cadet and even Darren Sharper.

All were met with skepticism and poo-pooed by many and all turned out to be solid moves.

Re: Saints acquire LB Barrett Rudd from Seahawks for an Undisclosed Pick
 

The more I hear about this guy the more I think he has a huge upside. Even the Falcons fan at work told me he was legit. We might have found a good vet on the cusp or resurecting his career.


P.S. Im gonna laugh my ass off if Shanle beasts out this year and has a monster season.

Re: Saints trade Seahawks for LB Barrett Rudd for Undisclosed Pick
 

Define "injury prone".
According to NFL.com, from 2005 to 2010, Rudd missed only one game in 2007. Last year, he played 9 games with the Titans, but was placed on IR after wk 14. He played last Saturday against Denver.

Re: Saints acquire LB Barrett Rudd from Seahawks for an Undisclosed Pick
 

So other than a player that likes to eat jocks, can't we pick up some stragglers from the Giants or Ravens or some other team with good LB depth?

Re: Saints acquire LB Barrett Rudd from Seahawks for an Undisclosed Pick
 

I would guess that they looked at what was available from all 32 teams.

There's always a chance that one of those teams might cut someone worth picking up after preseason though.

Re: Saints acquire LB Barrett Rudd from Seahawks for an Undisclosed Pick
 

As for Ruud playing special teams, it may well happen -- somebody who has access to it (not me) needs to take another look at that RIDONKULOUS onside kick that Jacksonville ran against us. I'm not saying he's to blame, but I feel like Humber was on the field right in the front of the kick formation when that particular piece of ridiculousness happened.