Is it just me......

TheOak · 08-26-2012, 01:35 PM

Now I could just be being hypersensitive with a new defense and all.. But...

I noticed an abnormally high amount of passes that could have actually gone either way.

Example: I know I can count at least two or three passes that Robinson turned into "jump balls".... When the play ended it could have been anyone's ball.

I mean... Christ! Even Shanle broke up a pass (that was not PI).

Shanle manhandled Tate:

Look at the sacks!!!!

I am very close to hoping that Greg Williams gets eaten by pigmy's on his international trips.

Also.... We are wrapping on tackles... I see a whole lot of promise on this defense.

I am no longer worried about either side of the ball... We are going to kick azz this year.

Utah_Saint · 08-26-2012, 01:44 PM

Nope, it's not just you.

spkb25 · 08-26-2012, 02:03 PM

Originally Posted by x626xBlack

Now I could just be being hypersensitive with a new defense and all.. But...

I noticed an abnormally high amount of passes that could have actually gone either way.

Example: I know I can count at least two or three passes that Robinson turned into "jump balls".... When the play ended it could have been anyone's ball.

I mean... Christ! Even Shanle broke up a pass (that was not PI).

Shanle manhandled Tate:

Look at the sacks!!!!

I am very close to hoping that Greg Williams gets eaten by pigmy's on his international trips.

Also.... We are wrapping on tackles... I see a whole lot of promise on this defense.

I am no longer worried about either side of the ball... We are going to kick azz this year.

I thought we had 3 really blown play, but overall I thought we were a lot more disciplined than we were under GW. Also, once you throw DH, CL, and JG back in the mix I think we improve that much more. I think there were definitely some things to build off of, and like you said= we were in much better positions than in the past.

The Dude · 08-29-2012, 12:45 AM

Originally Posted by spkb25

I thought we had 3 really blown play, but overall I thought we were a lot more disciplined than we were under GW. Also, once you throw DH, CL, and JG back in the mix I think we improve that much more. I think there were definitely some things to build off of, and like you said= we were in much better positions than in the past.

After the first two times our D was up against the Texans they really seemed to adjust and put things back together which was good to see. A lot of teams under a new defensive coordinator would panic and continue to make the same mistakes. The fact that we were able to turn things around shows how focused and disciplined we are. It looked ugly at times, but overall I was impressed. Loved the sacks, and Robinson REALLY impressed me. He was giving Andre Johnson a real tough time and was running with him step for step. There was a couple times he was in position to take one away from him, but things got tangled up. What excites me the most is that they showed us all this without any LBers.

Vrillon82 · 08-26-2012, 03:33 PM

One play in particular was to Andre Johnson that I thought should of been reviewed, its the one that called I think Robinson on for unsportsman like conduct or something? Something really stupid which we see coming from refs quite alot.

I am not even sure anyone ever had possession of that ball, Johnson look like he had it with 1 hand pinned to his shoulder or something, Robinson I think got in on it, so much in the scuffle but I would have hard time believe Johnson maintained possession.

FinSaint · 08-26-2012, 03:59 PM

For me the one really positive thing I've taken away from this new-look Spags' defense is that Spags and the defense as a whole seems more able to make adjustments inside the game, whereas with GW it seemed like that if things started out bad (gameplan wasn't working) - they often spiraled totally out of control during the course of the game.

The tackling has been disappointing in the last two games after the really good tackling we were entertained with in the first two preseason games, but, on the other hand, the pass rush from the front 4 has been pretty consistent in all of the games and what has been even more impressive is that it has been consistent throughout the whole depth of the roster.

4thqtrsaint · 08-26-2012, 04:32 PM

And remember, Greer, Lofton and Chamberlin were out... There was another... Herring?

Casillas had never manned the middle in his life.

We had no head coach either lol...

Held Arian Foster to 32 yds rushing...

We scored a TD on defense...

Starting D (not including STs) had 2 forced fumbles and a sack.

Considering how Houston came out, this D woke up quick. Gillette's TD woke our D up...

I'll give them 5 games until they truly mesh.

But strap yourselves in... 2012 is gonna be one helluva ride!!

Danno · 08-26-2012, 05:41 PM

We still have work to do. Way too many breakdowns in the secondary.

But even a football noob could tell our defense is improving each week and is already better than what we saw last year.

dizzle88 · 08-26-2012, 06:06 PM

And Cameron Jordan got a sack!

I've heard he's made a big improvement from last year

hagan714 · 08-26-2012, 07:59 PM

Originally Posted by dizzle88

And Cameron Jordan got a sack!

I've heard he's made a big improvement from last year

i am expecting a solid year from him. last i swear to god he was told to contain first sack second due to williams blitz happy defense.

08-26-2012, 01:35 PM	#1
TheOak 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Cypress Tx. Posts: 19,039	Is it just me...... Now I could just be being hypersensitive with a new defense and all.. But... I noticed an abnormally high amount of passes that could have actually gone either way. Example: I know I can count at least two or three passes that Robinson turned into "jump balls".... When the play ended it could have been anyone's ball. I mean... Christ! Even Shanle broke up a pass (that was not PI). Shanle manhandled Tate: Look at the sacks!!!! I am very close to hoping that Greg Williams gets eaten by pigmy's on his international trips. Also.... We are wrapping on tackles... I see a whole lot of promise on this defense. I am no longer worried about either side of the ball... We are going to kick azz this year. WhoDat!656, The Dude and Utah_Saint like this.
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08-26-2012, 01:44 PM	#2
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08-26-2012, 02:03 PM	#3
spkb25 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Baltimore, MD Posts: 13,115	Re: Is it just me...... Originally Posted by x626xBlack Now I could just be being hypersensitive with a new defense and all.. But... I noticed an abnormally high amount of passes that could have actually gone either way. Example: I know I can count at least two or three passes that Robinson turned into "jump balls".... When the play ended it could have been anyone's ball. I mean... Christ! Even Shanle broke up a pass (that was not PI). Shanle manhandled Tate: Look at the sacks!!!! I am very close to hoping that Greg Williams gets eaten by pigmy's on his international trips. Also.... We are wrapping on tackles... I see a whole lot of promise on this defense. I am no longer worried about either side of the ball... We are going to kick azz this year. I thought we had 3 really blown play, but overall I thought we were a lot more disciplined than we were under GW. Also, once you throw DH, CL, and JG back in the mix I think we improve that much more. I think there were definitely some things to build off of, and like you said= we were in much better positions than in the past.

08-29-2012, 12:45 AM	#4
The Dude 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Jul 2011 Posts: 9,055	Re: Is it just me...... Originally Posted by spkb25 I thought we had 3 really blown play, but overall I thought we were a lot more disciplined than we were under GW. Also, once you throw DH, CL, and JG back in the mix I think we improve that much more. I think there were definitely some things to build off of, and like you said= we were in much better positions than in the past. After the first two times our D was up against the Texans they really seemed to adjust and put things back together which was good to see. A lot of teams under a new defensive coordinator would panic and continue to make the same mistakes. The fact that we were able to turn things around shows how focused and disciplined we are. It looked ugly at times, but overall I was impressed. Loved the sacks, and Robinson REALLY impressed me. He was giving Andre Johnson a real tough time and was running with him step for step. There was a couple times he was in position to take one away from him, but things got tangled up. What excites me the most is that they showed us all this without any LBers.
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08-26-2012, 03:33 PM	#5
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08-26-2012, 03:59 PM	#6
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08-26-2012, 05:41 PM	#8
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