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Danno 08-30-2012 12:29 PM
Re: Could we trade Pierre to the Lions?
 
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Originally Posted by Kosoma (Post 432683)
if anyone has to go let it be ingram. thomas has the second highest yards per attempt average on the team at 4.8. he also catches well out of the backfield. and we know he is a danger to break one at any moment. although ivory used mostly for the hard to gain yards actually has the highest yards per attempt at 5.0. on any other team ivory is 1000+ yard rusher.
He'd never last enugh games to become a 1,000 yard rusher, and fumbles would probably land him on the bench.


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but ingram, doesnt really fit and he wasnt shy about saying he wasnt thrilled with his role in our offense. he feels that he could and should be an every down back, and i agree. so let him go somewhere else and do it. then maybe we can give ivory more money and keep him as well as thomas who i think comes due at the end of this year.
Doesn't fit? I disagree completely. If I had to pick a RB that doesn't fit this offense, Ivory would top that list.

Ingram never said he wasn't thrilled with his role, he said he thinks he can be an everydown RB in this league, meaning running, short yardage, receiving and 3rd down. And Ingram isn't making much money at all.

PT is signed thru 2014.

Kosoma 08-30-2012 01:28 PM
Re: Could we trade Pierre to the Lions?
 
lol what do you think that means? it means he wants more touches and he wont get them on a 4 back offense. its not always the words they say, but more so what is implied.

SAINTstunna 08-30-2012 01:35 PM
Re: Could we trade Pierre to the Lions?
 
I would be willing to trade ivory or cadet for a linebacker or 3rd rounder...

Danno 08-30-2012 02:13 PM
Re: Could we trade Pierre to the Lions?
 
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Originally Posted by Kosoma (Post 432742)
lol what do you think that means? it means he wants more touches and he wont get them on a 4 back offense. its not always the words they say, but more so what is implied.
I think you're reading something that isn't there.

Here's the quote you're probably referring to...
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"I believe any way that the coaches need me to contribute in this offense, that's what I'm going to do and that's what I'm happy to do," Ingram said. "In my eyes, I've always thought that I'm an every-down back, an all-purpose back, a guy who can run inside, a guy who can run outside, a guy who can run routes and catch the ball out of the backfield and pick up yards for you, and a pass protector. I don't label myself as a short yardage back or a power back. I think I'm an all-purpose back that can play for you on every down no matter what it is."

And from that you got he's unhappy with his role in this offense? Thats a stretch.

Luda34 08-30-2012 04:52 PM
Re: Could we trade Pierre to the Lions?
 
I love PT but there's a reason u drafted Ingram

TheOak 08-30-2012 05:03 PM
Re: Could we trade Pierre to the Lions?
 
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Originally Posted by DamondT (Post 432562)
The Saints are pretty deep at running back now with the emergence of Cadet. Could they trade Pierre or Ivory?

The Lions have been said to be on the phone trying to trade for a back, we have 5? Just saying?

NFL Draft Zone – Detroit needs to be on the phone with New Orleans, NOW
Blasphemy!

DamondT 08-30-2012 08:30 PM
Re: Could we trade Pierre to the Lions?
 
Cadet is looking good again, I am liking this kid

Joker 08-30-2012 08:34 PM
Re: Could we trade Pierre to the Lions?
 
Any running back traded to Detroit could come back to haunt the Saint's in the future. Nevertheless I love Cadet and think he will be an every down back in the future, if you can get a 3rd for Ivory I'd jump all over it considering allhe does is fumble and get hurt.

lee909 08-31-2012 11:39 AM
They will pick up Hightower now he has been cut is my guess

SaintsRule11 08-31-2012 11:41 AM
Re: Could we trade Pierre to the Lions?
 
No way in hell we are trading Pierre. Chris Ivory? Sure, just give us a nice draft pick.

LBCutta 08-31-2012 12:07 PM
Re: Could we trade Pierre to the Lions?
 
PT isn't going anywhere

CheramieIII 08-31-2012 12:49 PM
Re: Could we trade Pierre to the Lions?
 
A story on rotoworld mentioned ivory possible for the lions

ScottyRo 08-31-2012 01:52 PM
Re: Could we trade Pierre to the Lions?
 
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Originally Posted by Seer1 (Post 432668)
Let me ask this. Would we trade PT for the kommisar's immediate dismissal and Sean being back on the sidelines? Totally hypothetical of course.
No, we don't negotiate with terrorists.

Danno 08-31-2012 02:14 PM
Re: Could we trade Pierre to the Lions?
 
I find it funny that there seems to be a consensus that good RB's can be found later in the draft, so its unwise to burn a high pick on one.

Yet no one wants to give up a good RB in Pierre Thomas for a 1st round pick?

D_it_up 08-31-2012 03:11 PM
Re: Could we trade Pierre to the Lions?
 
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Originally Posted by Danno (Post 432987)
I find it funny that there seems to be a consensus that good RB's can be found later in the draft, so its unwise to burn a high pick on one.

Yet no one wants to give up a good RB in Pierre Thomas for a 1st round pick?
That's a good point, Danno. Just look at our roster of RB's. Ingram is the only first-round pick. Sproles was taken in the 4th round by San Diego. The other three backs (PT, Ivory, and Cadet) were undrafted free agent signings. As I said in my first reply to this thread in agreement with you, I wouldn't give up PT for anything but a first round pick.

TheOak 08-31-2012 04:07 PM
Re: Could we trade Pierre to the Lions?
 
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Originally Posted by Danno (Post 432987)
I find it funny that there seems to be a consensus that good RB's can be found later in the draft, so its unwise to burn a high pick on one.

Yet no one wants to give up a good RB in Pierre Thomas for a 1st round pick?
I just do not want to give up PT.

Shoe. 08-31-2012 04:12 PM
Re: Could we trade Pierre to the Lions?
 
Pierre Thomas scratched, clawed, and fought his way onto this team. He EARNED that spot in the truest sense of the word.

If somebody wants to overpay/ overtrade (Is that even a word) then I say GREAT for him. He earned himself a contract, no doubt.

Would I be happy? HAIL no, but if somebody wants to throw a stack of cash at him I wouldn't blame him at all for going and getting it.

That said, the Lions and every other team that wants him can go piss up a rope as far as I'm concerned. LOVE watching that dude run, he's a beast

The Dude 08-31-2012 04:21 PM
Re: Could we trade Pierre to the Lions?
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Kosoma (Post 432683)
if anyone has to go let it be ingram. thomas has the second highest yards per attempt average on the team at 4.8. he also catches well out of the backfield. and we know he is a danger to break one at any moment. although ivory used mostly for the hard to gain yards actually has the highest yards per attempt at 5.0. on any other team ivory is 1000+ yard rusher. i dont want to lose him, but i think when his contract comes due we lose him anyway to someone who will pay him much more money and give him a bigger role in the offense. cadet show some promise and we know we struck gold with sproles. but ingram, doesnt really fit and he wasnt shy about saying he wasnt thrilled with his role in our offense. he feels that he could and should be an every down back, and i agree. so let him go somewhere else and do it. then maybe we can give ivory more money and keep him as well as thomas who i think comes due at the end of this year.
Why on earth would we trade Ingram? We haven't even fully worked him into the rotation yet? We really don't know what kind of back we have in him. The sky is the limit for that guy. Im not saying trade PT but if I was forced to pick between the two i would trade PT. Ingram is younger and from what little I have seen from him is a mad man. I think you are going to see exactly why we drafted him the way we did this year.

skymike 08-31-2012 05:43 PM
Re: Could we trade Pierre to the Lions?
 
HELL NO.

Seer1 08-31-2012 05:46 PM
Re: Could we trade Pierre to the Lions?
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Danno (Post 432987)
I find it funny that there seems to be a consensus that good RB's can be found later in the draft, so its unwise to burn a high pick on one.

Yet no one wants to give up a good RB in Pierre Thomas for a 1st round pick?
WIth Pierre, that would be giving up a proven for a possibility.

lee909 08-31-2012 06:36 PM
Wouldn't trade Ingram.
Even for a first,if you could guarantee it was a pick somewhere between 8-18 I guess Loomis would have to think about it but the Lions are likely to make the playoffs.

faldhamen 09-01-2012 04:13 AM
Re: Could we trade Pierre to the Lions?
 
That is crazy, PT is one weapon that you should not go to war without.
Remember SF game, our offense was not the same after his injury.
I think we should keep all of them, RB position is a position that you can not have enough good backs. Running backs get injured more than other positions.

UK_WhoDat 09-01-2012 06:17 AM
Re: Could we trade Pierre to the Lions?
 
Hell, no!

I know one person who must be saying yes - our good friend SloMotion

TheOak 09-01-2012 06:27 AM
Re: Could we trade Pierre to the Lions?
 
This thought and thread need to vanish


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