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SaintsBro 09-06-2012 05:31 PM

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This kinda irks me, because people always say stuff like this, that "the Saints make rookie quarterbacks look like Hall of Famers" or "we always lose to the rookie quarterbacks" on Saints message boards and it's just plain old NOT TRUE. Or not entirely true.


The ONLY times that rookie or unknown or "nobody" or backup quarterbacks ever looked really good against the Gregg Williams Saints D, was when the QB on the field wasn't the same QB that the team prepared for during the week (Seattle playoffs, Titans game), or else when the QB was changed mid-season a week or two before and there wasn't a lot of film on them (Arizona, Cleveland and the Rams all made a major QB change only a week or two before the game, for example).

When the QB on the field is WHO THE SAINTS ARE EXPECTING TO BE THERE, rookie quarterbacks tend to look okay at best ,but certainly not great, if the Saints were prepared for them and not somebody else. Josh Freeman (38-7 blowout), Cam's first game against the Saints, and Matt Stafford in the '09 opener for example. I believe Sanchez was also a rookie that first year in '09 for the Jets, and he looked so-so and got completely ineffective and frustrated by the end of the game. I actually broke this down with more games and teams, I can't remember all of them now. And it's just NOT true to say the Saints play bad against rookie QB's. It's when the rookie or backup QB is not expected, or changes the Thursday before the game, THAT'S when it's a problem.

CharityMike 09-06-2012 05:59 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by SaintsBro (Post 434947)
This kinda irks me, because people always say stuff like this, that "the Saints make rookie quarterbacks look like Hall of Famers" or "we always lose to the rookie quarterbacks" on Saints message boards and it's just plain old NOT TRUE. Or not entirely true.


The ONLY times that rookie or unknown or "nobody" or backup quarterbacks ever looked really good against the Gregg Williams Saints D, was when the QB on the field wasn't the same QB that the team prepared for during the week (Seattle playoffs, Titans game), or else when the QB was changed mid-season a week or two before and there wasn't a lot of film on them (Arizona, Cleveland and the Rams all made a major QB change only a week or two before the game, for example).

When the QB on the field is WHO THE SAINTS ARE EXPECTING TO BE THERE, rookie quarterbacks tend to look okay at best ,but certainly not great, if the Saints were prepared for them and not somebody else. Josh Freeman (38-7 blowout), Cam's first game against the Saints, and Matt Stafford in the '09 opener for example. I believe Sanchez was also a rookie that first year in '09 for the Jets, and he looked so-so and got completely ineffective and frustrated by the end of the game. I actually broke this down with more games and teams, I can't remember all of them now. And it's just NOT true to say the Saints play bad against rookie QB's. It's when the rookie or backup QB is not expected, or changes the Thursday before the game, THAT'S when it's a problem.

Some people just hold on to things Bro.These said people need to quit living in the past!!

Vrillon82 09-06-2012 06:42 PM

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difference in GW defense and Spags defense is I think we going to see alot more of holding opposing teams to what they should be held to.

I think Washington is going to stay under 15 pts for offensive production.

We been done with Gary Gibbs since 2008 and their has been times through Gregg Williams reign where I firmly believe Gibbs would of done the better job, with Spags here, I think we going to get more of a Gibbs style defense, but I believe we will get the cross of the 2 and it will be much better.

|Mitch| 09-06-2012 07:11 PM

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I could careless what RGIII does, whether we keep him in the pocket or not...

No way the Redskins defense can keep us from scoring and no way RGIII can go blow to blow with Drew! Not being his first real NFL game and in the Dome...

arsaint 09-06-2012 07:13 PM

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Nothing stops the Black & Gold Express on Sunday.

We may make a stop or two to watch RG3 run around, but at the end of the day we'll be pulling into the station labeled 1-0

westbankdaze 09-06-2012 07:24 PM

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Originally Posted by The Dude (Post 434931)
Does seem like we struggle against no name rookie or backup QBs but I don't think it applies this time. Its gonna be hard for them to come out and beat a team with the kind of chip on their shoulder, the talent, and the atmosphere we have.

Normally I would agree with you - but this is RG3's first real NFL game and it will be in the dome of the of black n gold hornet's nest.

Saints 34-17 my prediction.

Utah_Saint 09-06-2012 07:38 PM

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Troy Aikman's first game in the NFL was against the Saints. He and da boys were shut out 28-0 if I remember correctly. And the game wasn't as close as the score.

RockyMountainSaint 09-06-2012 07:39 PM

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statistical anomaly

st thomas 09-06-2012 08:38 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by SaintsBro (Post 434947)
This kinda irks me, because people always say stuff like this, that "the Saints make rookie quarterbacks look like Hall of Famers" or "we always lose to the rookie quarterbacks" on Saints message boards and it's just plain old NOT TRUE. Or not entirely true.


The ONLY times that rookie or unknown or "nobody" or backup quarterbacks ever looked really good against the Gregg Williams Saints D, was when the QB on the field wasn't the same QB that the team prepared for during the week (Seattle playoffs, Titans game), or else when the QB was changed mid-season a week or two before and there wasn't a lot of film on them (Arizona, Cleveland and the Rams all made a major QB change only a week or two before the game, for example).

When the QB on the field is WHO THE SAINTS ARE EXPECTING TO BE THERE, rookie quarterbacks tend to look okay at best ,but certainly not great, if the Saints were prepared for them and not somebody else. Josh Freeman (38-7 blowout), iCam's first game against the Saints, and Matt Stafford in the '09 opener for example. I believe Sanchez was also a rookie that first year in '09 for the Jets, and he looked so-so and got completely ineffective and frustrated by the end of the game. I actually broke this down with more games and teams, I can't remember all of them now. And it's just NOT true to say the Saints play bad against rookie QB's. It's when the rookie or backup QB is not expected, or changes the Thursday before the game, THAT'S when it's a problem.

I were going to give u a like but missed the button so heres ur sign saintsbro,
like and to add to ur post gw to me always went overboard on those rookies and they would make him pay, thats what i believe fanz are trying to say. Not that we lost against them ,but everybody and his brother knows what gw has gameplaned against the rookies, and a few screens later we are chasing them all day.

QBREES9 09-06-2012 08:44 PM

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No worries


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