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Shoe. 09-24-2012 04:30 PM

Re: Quit blaming our losses on the refs and Goodell
 
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Originally Posted by Danno (Post 442579)
Huh?

Really? Okay...

How does the REF, using his whistle, blow the play dead

'scuse me. Thought the gist of what I was saying was clearer

Danno 09-24-2012 04:36 PM

Re: Quit blaming our losses on the refs and Goodell
 
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Originally Posted by Shoe. (Post 442585)
Really? Okay...

How does the REF, using his whistle, blow the play dead

'scuse me. Thought the gist of what I was saying was clearer

When he blows the whistle, the play is dead, by rule.

They changed part of by saying fumble recoveries are allowed if the blown whistle does not alter players reactions. Obviously the rule only applies to action immediately after the whistle and not to reconstructing the play as if a whistle was never blown.

Blowing the whistle was wrong, calling the ball dead where we recovered it was the correct call.

Vrillon82 09-24-2012 04:37 PM

Re: Quit blaming our losses on the refs and Goodell
 
Yeah because 2 things occurred on that play.

Never touched.

Loss the ball.

The refs if you notice all through that game though, were blowing whistles about a sec before they should have been blowing them.

That happened a bunch of times, especially on plays where the player went out of bounds, they blew them before they actually went out of bounds.

Shoe. 09-24-2012 04:38 PM

Re: Quit blaming our losses on the refs and Goodell
 
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Originally Posted by Danno (Post 442588)
Blowing the whistle was wrong, calling the ball dead where we recovered it was the correct call.

N00BS!!


grumble grumble grumble...

SaintFanQ 09-25-2012 02:02 PM

Re: Quit blaming our losses on the refs and Goodell
 
Is there any chance soon of the "REAL" refs coming back to the league?

The officiating of most of the games this weekend was pretty poor and I don't see it getting much better if they keep this group of officials!!!

SaintsBro 09-25-2012 02:42 PM

Re: Quit blaming our losses on the refs and Goodell
 
I'm just asking, did anyone actually HEAR the whistle on that Dexter McCluster fumble play? I usually have no problem hearing all the whistles from where I sit, and on that play I heard ....nothing. Zip. Nada.

If I had HEARD the whistle, I would be like -- okay, no TD, spot the ball, that sucks but at least I heard it blow. But I didn't. Did anybody actually hear it? Was it audible on TV? Please correct me if I'm wrong. I want to be wrong. But I didn't hear it.

papz 09-25-2012 03:07 PM

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jcp026 09-25-2012 03:16 PM

Re: Quit blaming our losses on the refs and Goodell
 
The refs aren't very good and neither are we.

BusDriver 09-25-2012 03:21 PM

Re: Quit blaming our losses on the refs and Goodell
 
When they did the replay here on tv, you could hear the whistle blow after the ball was picked up & before he ran it in. I liked how the announcers kept saying he slide & gave himself up so it shouldn't have been a fumble.

Srgt. Hulka 09-25-2012 04:18 PM

Re: Quit blaming our losses on the refs and Goodell
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Shoe. (Post 442585)
Really? Okay...

How does the REF, using his whistle, blow the play dead

'scuse me. Thought the gist of what I was saying was clearer

When the ref blow the whistle, the play is dead period. No discussion. The play is over. When the whistle is blown is not reviewable. When the play is blown dead, it's dead.

73Saint 09-25-2012 04:30 PM

Re: Quit blaming our losses on the refs and Goodell
 
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Originally Posted by SaintsBro (Post 443069)
I'm just asking, did anyone actually HEAR the whistle on that Dexter McCluster fumble play? I usually have no problem hearing all the whistles from where I sit, and on that play I heard ....nothing. Zip. Nada.

If I had HEARD the whistle, I would be like -- okay, no TD, spot the ball, that sucks but at least I heard it blow. But I didn't. Did anybody actually hear it? Was it audible on TV? Please correct me if I'm wrong. I want to be wrong. But I didn't hear it.


I heard the whistle (on the replay).

neugey 09-25-2012 09:49 PM

Re: Quit blaming our losses on the refs and Goodell
 
I'm not going to blame our losses on the replacement refs ... but it's also hard for me to take the outcome of any Saints games - win or lose - seriously at all until the real refs are back.

How can I ever say we deserved to win or lose, when we almost won the game on the KC non-fumble returned by Harper for a TD in OT?! I told my daughter "no, no, we can't win like this". Thank goodness they reviewed it and got it right, even though it took forever.

To me this is now like an exhibition season, watching the Saints for fun but I really am starting to care less if we make the postseason. Because if the replacement refs stick around, this season will have a big fat asterisk hanging on it. Who wants to win it all under those conditions?! It would be like winning half a Super Bowl.

The sound byte "Don't leave it in the hands of the refs" means nothing. The replacement refs are blowing calls and disrupting rhythm in such a way that very often neither team can get a sufficient lead. If one team gets ahead then the refs will sway things. And then God only knows what they'll jack up at the end of a game. There were 4 OT games this week and how many other close ones?! Do you think that was an accident folks? Nope, more TV ratings and commercial time and Roger and the network execs are laughing all the way to the bank.

Like I said, this is nothing more than an exhibition season until the real refs come back.


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