Handwerger: Time for talk is long gone for the Saints .

CharityMike · 09-24-2012, 09:49 AM

Originally Posted by Jamessr

This can't be stressed enough...
I know this idea runs rampart on the forums and I would hope the players don't feel this way. because if they do... there truely is no hope for this season.

It runs rampent on the forums for good reasons. Like Danno said, you have blinders on if you don't think this is a big reason why we are 0-3.

The team and players can say whatever the hell they want. We have been hearing the same thing since week 1. The players do feel this. Kromer can't be the O line coach and acting head coach. Look at the line this year. When was the last time Drew has been huried or sacked this many times within the first 3 games? Atleast payton adjusted and chiped the DE's, I see no such thing happening.

Spags is on an island. He has no good help. I am not a big fan of Vitt but at least the guy has passion. He would be a tremendous help for Spags right now.

We all bought into the player "Leaders" of the team will help get us through this. It is painfully obvious that is not going to be enough. The "player leaders" have no leader. Most us waaay understimated how bad we were going to miss our Head coach and Asst. Head Coach.

We are a team without leadership to turn things around. We are like a cockaroach fighting the swirling water in the toilet. It's just a matter of time before it goes down the drain.

Marlboro Man · 09-24-2012, 03:52 PM

Originally Posted by CharityMike

It runs rampent on the forums for good reasons. Like Danno said, you have blinders on if you don't think this is a big reason why we are 0-3.

The team and players can say whatever the hell they want. We have been hearing the same thing since week 1. The players do feel this. Kromer can't be the O line coach and acting head coach. Look at the line this year. When was the last time Drew has been huried or sacked this many times within the first 3 games? Atleast payton adjusted and chiped the DE's, I see no such thing happening.

Spags is on an island. He has no good help. I am not a big fan of Vitt but at least the guy has passion. He would be a tremendous help for Spags right now.

We all bought into the player "Leaders" of the team will help get us through this. It is painfully obvious that is not going to be enough. The "player leaders" have no leader. Most us waaay understimated how bad we were going to miss our Head coach and Asst. Head Coach.

We are a team without leadership to turn things around. We are like a cockaroach fighting the swirling water in the toilet. It's just a matter of time before it goes down the drain.

You don't see chips happening etc because Carmichael isn't calling it. His playcalling is stagnant and predictable and that's why our screens aren't working or any of our shot plays.

09-24-2012, 09:49 AM	#1
CharityMike Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: Mid City, New Orleans Posts: 3,556	Re: Handwerger: Time for talk is long gone for the Saints . Originally Posted by Jamessr This can't be stressed enough... I know this idea runs rampart on the forums and I would hope the players don't feel this way. because if they do... there truely is no hope for this season. It runs rampent on the forums for good reasons. Like Danno said, you have blinders on if you don't think this is a big reason why we are 0-3. The team and players can say whatever the hell they want. We have been hearing the same thing since week 1. The players do feel this. Kromer can't be the O line coach and acting head coach. Look at the line this year. When was the last time Drew has been huried or sacked this many times within the first 3 games? Atleast payton adjusted and chiped the DE's, I see no such thing happening. Spags is on an island. He has no good help. I am not a big fan of Vitt but at least the guy has passion. He would be a tremendous help for Spags right now. We all bought into the player "Leaders" of the team will help get us through this. It is painfully obvious that is not going to be enough. The "player leaders" have no leader. Most us waaay understimated how bad we were going to miss our Head coach and Asst. Head Coach. We are a team without leadership to turn things around. We are like a cockaroach fighting the swirling water in the toilet. It's just a matter of time before it goes down the drain. Danno, RailBoss and SaintsBro like this.

09-24-2012, 03:52 PM	#2
Marlboro Man 1000 Posts + Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 1,469	Re: Handwerger: Time for talk is long gone for the Saints . Originally Posted by CharityMike It runs rampent on the forums for good reasons. Like Danno said, you have blinders on if you don't think this is a big reason why we are 0-3. The team and players can say whatever the hell they want. We have been hearing the same thing since week 1. The players do feel this. Kromer can't be the O line coach and acting head coach. Look at the line this year. When was the last time Drew has been huried or sacked this many times within the first 3 games? Atleast payton adjusted and chiped the DE's, I see no such thing happening. Spags is on an island. He has no good help. I am not a big fan of Vitt but at least the guy has passion. He would be a tremendous help for Spags right now. We all bought into the player "Leaders" of the team will help get us through this. It is painfully obvious that is not going to be enough. The "player leaders" have no leader. Most us waaay understimated how bad we were going to miss our Head coach and Asst. Head Coach. We are a team without leadership to turn things around. We are like a cockaroach fighting the swirling water in the toilet. It's just a matter of time before it goes down the drain. You don't see chips happening etc because Carmichael isn't calling it. His playcalling is stagnant and predictable and that's why our screens aren't working or any of our shot plays.

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