New Orleans Saints running back rotation appearing to stand pat meaning no playing time for Chris Ivory
 

New Orleans Saints interim coach Aaron Kromer doesn't appear ready to make any changes at running back saying Thursday that the trio of Pierre Thomas, Darren Sproles and Mark Ingram give the running game the best chance to succeed.

The decision still leaves no room for Chris Ivory, the Saints' leading rusher in 2010, as he's been inactive every game this season and it seems like that trend will continue for Sunday's game in Green Bay. Ivory didn't hide his frustration Thursday.

"Honestly, yeah it's frustrating," Ivory said. "But that's not going to change nothing. Yeah, the situation sucks, but right now I'm still trying to be patient."

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I'd like to have seen Ivory given a shot. In gram has not been finding any holes might have been worth seeing if Ivory could.Them preseason fumbles may be costing him.

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I was so excited when we drafted Ingram, I thought he was someone that had the same big play ability of Adrian Peterson just a bigger between the tackles runner
I don't understand why it hasn't translated to the nfl, PT and sproles can get 9 yards up the gut consistently, why does Ingram only get 2 yards?

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Great question; the first answer that pops to my head is that he always seems to run right into the backs of his O line. He's done that a few times, and in the first game he had a nice little cut back/direction change around the side of the line for a sweet little gain, but since then its like he's either getting tackled in the back field or he's trying to force his way into a gap that isn't there and either way getting about 2-3 yards

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His vision isn't there yet. Right now Ingram is just a plodder and Ivory is actually better than him in that category. However, Ingram brings a little more to the table as far as talent and capability.

The problem with Ingram is that it looks like he's the type of back that needs consistent carries to get in rhythm and develop. While he may or may not become a very good back, I don't think we'll ever get the chance to find out in the type of system we run barring injuries. I'm not comparing his talents to Deuce McAllister but... remember how he use to just grind out ten 3-4 yard runs and then just break one for 30-40 yards? Ingram is a 20+ carry back... just not here, not now.

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Ingram is not doing anything that proves he should get those 6-10 carries a game..his vision is sub-par if that and hes not explosive....Chris Ivory can catch out the backfield..his first breakout play was 75 yard td RECEPTION...they just choose to use him as a one dimensional back because we have so many scat backs...Its not going to take long for Chris to play anyway Mark's not going to last the whole season

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You really counting Ivory's pre-season screen pass?

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Well, guess I'm not watching this Sun. If the Saints don't want to try to win then there's no need for me to watch another loss. I'll keep an ear tuned in but not gonna invest a lot of time on it.

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I am not sure I believe crap they say any more... Did we have a post stating Cadet was going to dress last week and help out?

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I believe Cadet has dressed every game so far, but he remains on the bench. What with our offensive juggernaut in the second half last week (:lol:) we must not have needed him

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Bush had the same problem at first. He finally learned somewhat, to follow his lineman, but then he would out run their protection.

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Ingram, our D-Line, and our Line Backers... All have a problem not having patience.

Good backs but their hand on the back of a lineman or FB and follow a step or two until something develops. Reggie and Ingram run right up a mans azz.

Anyone watch Rice last night? Seen Foster run? You have to let your line make a hole..

Ivory just flat our parts the sea with his helmet.. Then churns his legs anyway he can to push through.

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Yeah your not wrong

In chat during the game last week i pointed out one particular Ingram run

He took the handoff, looks like the play was designed to go up the gut, grubbs and DLP both had their men, Ingram turned his shoulder and ran into them BACKWARDS!!! then just fell over, my god it was embarrassing to watch

When Arian Foster runs, everything is so split second, smooth transition and one cut burst through the gap. If the gap isnt there, foster has patience and knows a hole will open, ingram doesn't take that chance and fights for a two yard gain - say hello to another 3 AND OUT!!!

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Yes, exactly. The guy has either no patience or too much patience. I see him run right into his linemen, and other times he just kind of shuffles his feet in the backfield hoping for something to open up. That's a classic case of a guy who just doesn't have it. He does one thing and then over-compensates when the coaches tell him what he's doing wrong.

Anyone remember Ron Dayne? What you do in college doesn't mean jack in the NFL unless you prove otherwise.

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I'd rather trade ingram, that's just me. He might be good, but we could get something for him, Ivory would not get us anything on a trade

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I predict we'll trade Ingram in a year or two and just like Reggie; he'll go excel in a different offense. Ingram just doesn't fit our offense... Let's face it, it was a bad draft pick. Mark is a bell cow back who needs carries to get into a groove. No disrespect to Payton and Loomis, we absolutely needed a RB in that year's draft, but why would you trade up to get a bell cow back when you don't have a "ground and pound" offense?! Ingram will continue to put up mediocre numbers until we trade him and then he'll go be successful elsewhere.

I think if we go to 0-4 then we will see more cadet. It's a perfect opportunity to get guys we have on the bench into more real action without really having to worry about our W-L record.

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For a 1st round draft pick vs. a undrafted free agent and comparing their performances, it's black and white to me Ivory is better, now I wonder what it would look like with both of them in the backfield togather for some smash football and let PT and Sproles play after the D is wore down?

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Did you just back-hand SLAP ME?! LOL

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Well written...Ingram kinda does what he is called on to do 2-3 yards

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It wouldn't hurt to use Ivory at least until his injury, who knows we may get a game or two out of him

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Or he might be the much needed Spark to get the entire team off its butt, Inquirey mind may never know!!

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Yeah, is Ivory hurt?

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LMMFAO- Good stuff