Conspiracy Theory

neugey · 10-10-2012, 04:22 PM

The weird thing is ... the NFL is the one that made a big stink about Bountygate and bounty systems!

I doubt any of the former players or their attorney really had this on their radar at all until the NFL went all nuts and public about it, calling out the Saints. Why didn't the NFL just keep it under the rug, what little impact the any alleged or attempted bounties actually had? It's just a desperation PR attempt by the NFL to hopefully get a jury member or two to vote in their favor, even though most of the lawsuits will involve players that never played for the Saints or whose medical conditions who have nothing to do with bounties.

Now we can see this tactic will backfire, and the owners just need to man up and give more medical compensation to former NFL players before it gets any more expensive for them. Other corporations have survived litigation and so can the NFL. I wish the NFL would just take it on the chin rather than playing gymnastics with the justice system.

And hmmm now that I think about it ... all these bounty cases will take a lot of time to sort out and their lawyers will probably claim the bounty cases need to be resolved before player injury trials can resume. So perhaps it's merely a stalling tactic.

saintfan · 10-10-2012, 04:27 PM

Originally Posted by neugey

The weird thing is ... the NFL is the one that made a big stink about Bountygate and bounty systems!

I doubt any of the former players or their attorney really had this on their radar at all until the NFL went all nuts and public about it, calling out the Saints. Why didn't the NFL just keep it under the rug, what little impact the any alleged or attempted bounties actually had? It's just a desperation PR attempt by the NFL to hopefully get a jury member or two to vote in their favor, even though most of the lawsuits will involve players that never played for the Saints or whose medical conditions who have nothing to do with bounties.

Now we can see this tactic will backfire, and the owners just need to man up and give more medical compensation to former NFL players before it gets any more expensive for them. Other corporations have survived litigation and so can the NFL. I wish the NFL would just take it on the chin rather than playing gymnastics with the justice system.

And hmmm now that I think about it ... all these bounty cases will take a lot of time to sort out and their lawyers will probably claim the bounty cases need to be resolved before player injury trials can resume. So perhaps it's merely a stalling tactic.

And the thing is, regardless, ultimately that's exactly what's going to happen. The NFL will surely have to 'take it on the chin' as you suggest. That is a virtual certainty. There is simply too much evidence against it - Roger's appearance before Congress with the NFL doctor included. It's a desperate attempt that WILL fail.

Beastmode · 10-10-2012, 04:37 PM

x626, that still does not explain Benson hiring Freech's high dollar investigative firm to get to the bottom of it. Are you saying this was a front as well? I personally think Benson is a small fry in terms of the owners. A lot of his loyalties are either dead or were pushed out years ago. I do agree though with the Saints being a prime candidate for this punishment. We are without question the loyalists fans in the NFL. Win or lose, we really just want to be entertained and have a good time. This isn't the case with most teams. Losing in epic fashion is just a part of La culture as Monday Red Beans and Rice.

Rugby Saint II · 10-10-2012, 05:04 PM

I knew it!!!!!
There is a conspiracy!!!

Tobias-Reiper · 10-10-2012, 07:42 PM

There is one thing you don't have in there, which I think plays a bigger role in this whole bounty mess than most people realize: US Congress. Goodell got reamed by a Congressional panel on player safety in 2009. The collection of ex-player lawsuits is one thing, but the NFL's antitrust exemption is another. With the money the NFL makes, they could easily work settlements with ex-players that get paid over time, just like the tobacco industry did. BUT, if US Congress gets pissed off enough at the NFL and decides to revisit the Sports Broadcasting Act of 1961...

Beastmode · 10-10-2012, 10:45 PM

Originally Posted by Tobias-Reiper

There is one thing you don't have in there, which I think plays a bigger role in this whole bounty mess than most people realize: US Congress. Goodell got reamed by a Congressional panel on player safety in 2009. The collection of ex-player lawsuits is one thing, but the NFL's antitrust exemption is another. With the money the NFL makes, they could easily work settlements with ex-players that get paid over time, just like the tobacco industry did. BUT, if US Congress gets pissed off enough at the NFL and decides to revisit the Sports Broadcasting Act of 1961...

They also tried to hire Jeb Bush before Goodell. A man with 0 .0 football experience. When he turned them down they went with Roger. His wife, her father was on the Bush administration. They knew this was coming.

jnormand · 10-10-2012, 08:22 PM

I'm completely lost....this reminds me of the Sicillian on Princess of the Bride.

Clearly I couldn't choose the cup in front of you. But you knowing I was intelligent and wouldn't choose the cup in front of you means that I clearly couldn't choose the cup in front of me.

LMAO!

UK_WhoDat · 10-12-2012, 12:28 PM

Originally Posted by jnormand

I'm completely lost....this reminds me of the Sicillian on Princess of the Bride.

Clearly I couldn't choose the cup in front of you. But you knowing I was intelligent and wouldn't choose the cup in front of you means that I clearly couldn't choose the cup in front of me.

LMAO!

Wot he said

Vrillon82 · 10-10-2012, 10:19 PM

My Conspiracy theory which holds far more weight is this is just a plot to make sure the Saints DO NOT get to the Super Bowl in their own stadium.

I find it even a little more supporting of this with the fact Goodell reissued the suspensions following a Saints win.

Why didnt he do that before when they were losing?

I dont believe in coincidences and their is too many of them.

I can tell you another one to;

Referees from this point may aid the Saints greatly from this point on in order to get revenge on the NFL and Goodell, whereas the replacement officials pretty much blew 4 games that the Saints could of won.

AlaskaSaints · 10-11-2012, 02:36 AM

Sign me up.
And in the off-season, Benson buys a basketball team? Or was it baseball? Hell, I know nothing but football.

Alaska

10-10-2012, 04:22 PM	#1
neugey Hu Dat! Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 6,825 Blog Entries: 13	Re: Conspiracy Theory The weird thing is ... the NFL is the one that made a big stink about Bountygate and bounty systems! I doubt any of the former players or their attorney really had this on their radar at all until the NFL went all nuts and public about it, calling out the Saints. Why didn't the NFL just keep it under the rug, what little impact the any alleged or attempted bounties actually had? It's just a desperation PR attempt by the NFL to hopefully get a jury member or two to vote in their favor, even though most of the lawsuits will involve players that never played for the Saints or whose medical conditions who have nothing to do with bounties. Now we can see this tactic will backfire, and the owners just need to man up and give more medical compensation to former NFL players before it gets any more expensive for them. Other corporations have survived litigation and so can the NFL. I wish the NFL would just take it on the chin rather than playing gymnastics with the justice system. And hmmm now that I think about it ... all these bounty cases will take a lot of time to sort out and their lawyers will probably claim the bounty cases need to be resolved before player injury trials can resume. So perhaps it's merely a stalling tactic. SaintsBro likes this.
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10-10-2012, 04:27 PM	#2
saintfan Donated Plasma Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: San Francisco, CA Posts: 18,556 Blog Entries: 5	Re: Conspiracy Theory Originally Posted by neugey The weird thing is ... the NFL is the one that made a big stink about Bountygate and bounty systems! I doubt any of the former players or their attorney really had this on their radar at all until the NFL went all nuts and public about it, calling out the Saints. Why didn't the NFL just keep it under the rug, what little impact the any alleged or attempted bounties actually had? It's just a desperation PR attempt by the NFL to hopefully get a jury member or two to vote in their favor, even though most of the lawsuits will involve players that never played for the Saints or whose medical conditions who have nothing to do with bounties. Now we can see this tactic will backfire, and the owners just need to man up and give more medical compensation to former NFL players before it gets any more expensive for them. Other corporations have survived litigation and so can the NFL. I wish the NFL would just take it on the chin rather than playing gymnastics with the justice system. And hmmm now that I think about it ... all these bounty cases will take a lot of time to sort out and their lawyers will probably claim the bounty cases need to be resolved before player injury trials can resume. So perhaps it's merely a stalling tactic. And the thing is, regardless, ultimately that's exactly what's going to happen. The NFL will surely have to 'take it on the chin' as you suggest. That is a virtual certainty. There is simply too much evidence against it - Roger's appearance before Congress with the NFL doctor included. It's a desperate attempt that WILL fail.

10-10-2012, 04:37 PM	#3
Beastmode 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Jul 2010 Posts: 9,126	Re: Conspiracy Theory x626, that still does not explain Benson hiring Freech's high dollar investigative firm to get to the bottom of it. Are you saying this was a front as well? I personally think Benson is a small fry in terms of the owners. A lot of his loyalties are either dead or were pushed out years ago. I do agree though with the Saints being a prime candidate for this punishment. We are without question the loyalists fans in the NFL. Win or lose, we really just want to be entertained and have a good time. This isn't the case with most teams. Losing in epic fashion is just a part of La culture as Monday Red Beans and Rice.
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10-10-2012, 05:04 PM	#4
Rugby Saint II Bounty Money $$$ Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: 5800 Airline Dr. Metairie, LA. Posts: 24,125	Re: Conspiracy Theory I knew it!!!!! There is a conspiracy!!!

10-10-2012, 07:42 PM	#5
Tobias-Reiper Merces Letifer Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 4,161	Re: Conspiracy Theory There is one thing you don't have in there, which I think plays a bigger role in this whole bounty mess than most people realize: US Congress. Goodell got reamed by a Congressional panel on player safety in 2009. The collection of ex-player lawsuits is one thing, but the NFL's antitrust exemption is another. With the money the NFL makes, they could easily work settlements with ex-players that get paid over time, just like the tobacco industry did. BUT, if US Congress gets pissed off enough at the NFL and decides to revisit the Sports Broadcasting Act of 1961...
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10-10-2012, 10:45 PM	#6
Beastmode 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Jul 2010 Posts: 9,126	Re: Conspiracy Theory Originally Posted by Tobias-Reiper There is one thing you don't have in there, which I think plays a bigger role in this whole bounty mess than most people realize: US Congress. Goodell got reamed by a Congressional panel on player safety in 2009. The collection of ex-player lawsuits is one thing, but the NFL's antitrust exemption is another. With the money the NFL makes, they could easily work settlements with ex-players that get paid over time, just like the tobacco industry did. BUT, if US Congress gets pissed off enough at the NFL and decides to revisit the Sports Broadcasting Act of 1961... They also tried to hire Jeb Bush before Goodell. A man with 0 .0 football experience. When he turned them down they went with Roger. His wife, her father was on the Bush administration. They knew this was coming.
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10-10-2012, 08:22 PM	#7
jnormand 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: The Free State of Idaho Posts: 5,740	Re: Conspiracy Theory I'm completely lost....this reminds me of the Sicillian on Princess of the Bride. Clearly I couldn't choose the cup in front of you. But you knowing I was intelligent and wouldn't choose the cup in front of you means that I clearly couldn't choose the cup in front of me. LMAO!

10-12-2012, 12:28 PM	#8
UK_WhoDat 1000 Posts + Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Wherever I lay my hat Posts: 4,000	Re: Conspiracy Theory Originally Posted by jnormand I'm completely lost....this reminds me of the Sicillian on Princess of the Bride. Clearly I couldn't choose the cup in front of you. But you knowing I was intelligent and wouldn't choose the cup in front of you means that I clearly couldn't choose the cup in front of me. LMAO! Wot he said

10-10-2012, 10:19 PM	#9
Vrillon82 1000 Posts + Join Date: Aug 2012 Posts: 1,127	Re: Conspiracy Theory My Conspiracy theory which holds far more weight is this is just a plot to make sure the Saints DO NOT get to the Super Bowl in their own stadium. I find it even a little more supporting of this with the fact Goodell reissued the suspensions following a Saints win. Why didnt he do that before when they were losing? I dont believe in coincidences and their is too many of them. I can tell you another one to; Referees from this point may aid the Saints greatly from this point on in order to get revenge on the NFL and Goodell, whereas the replacement officials pretty much blew 4 games that the Saints could of won. AlaskaSaints likes this.
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10-11-2012, 02:36 AM	#10
AlaskaSaints 1000 Posts + Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Anchorage, AK Posts: 2,484 Blog Entries: 2	Re: Conspiracy Theory Sign me up. And in the off-season, Benson buys a basketball team? Or was it baseball? Hell, I know nothing but football. Alaska

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