Vitt: Too late for Saints to make wholesale changes on defense
 

METAIRIE — Even though they’re on pace to give up an NFL-record 7,595 yards — which would be about 800 more than the 1981 Baltimore Colts — don’t expect drastic changes from the New Orleans Saints’ defense.

It may not be what fans want to hear from a unit that’s allowed 474.7 yards per game and has given up 400 yards in each of its first seven games, but interim coach Joe Vitt said it’s much too late to make sweeping changes as the Saints approach the midway point of the season.

Vitt said there will be new wrinkles here and there, but it’s impossible to implement a scheme and work on it throughout the offseason and training camp and then make a change halfway through the season.

“If you have dramatic changes and you have erratic changes, that’s when panic sets in,” Vitt said Thursday as the Saints began preparing for Monday night’s game with the Philadelphia Eagles. “If you put panic in, the players can smell the house burning before the match is ever lit.

“We’ve got to play better, we’ve got to coach better, we’ve got to execute better. That being said, if we think we can do the same thing over and over again and expect a different result, that’s the definition of insanity. … But we’re not going to rewrite the playbook.”

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Every interview with our coaches iS making me hate our management even more

They all act they didnt know this would happen and they cannot find any answers

ITS YOUR GOD DAMN JOB!! FIX IT

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Dear Vitt,

Your house has been burning, panic couldn't hurt anything at this point and if you do not do something .... anything.... I will fully support you finding a new house next season.

Everyone thought you would come in and make some changes and have fire... What I see from your personality in your interviews and statements is pure passive aggressive. Stop being an obstructionist with your cliche's and quotes... Apparently someone in the locker-room is asking for some damn change because they clearly see this isn't working.. Listen to your locker-room Vitt.

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Sorry but Vitt is right. You can't change now but you can work harder on fundamentals. Too many miss tackles and ole whiffs. Put your damn face in his chest, wrap him up and drive him to the turf. Quit diving at his feet with your shoulder.

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Explain what harm change would make? Don't just say "you cant", give reasons besides panicky girls.

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I can see both sides. If Spags is gonna be here next year, his starters need to be on the same page with him. Right now they aren't. He probably wants them to play more in hopes that his system clicks with them.

On the other hand I personally would like to see how good some of these younger players are when given more snaps. Players like Hicks, Walker, Wilson (at SLB), Johnson, Galette, Quddus, Bush etc...

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The same reasons people are saying our DB's are getting burnt. It's quite apparent other than Greer and he is struggling from the groin injury that we don't have the speed to cover in man. We really need to play zone with the guys we have. The problem is half of them are playing zone and the other half revert to man instead of staying in their assign zones which leads to the broken coverages. If we start blitzing GW style over 60% of the time it will result in even more big plays because teams will eat us up with the quick slants. Every team left on the schedule has speed receivers that can take a quick throw and take it to the house. Vick is probably the only QB we have left to face that doesn't read the blitz that well. We have some young guys that need to learn the zone scheme and build off of it.
We have Gallete, Wilson, Hicks and Jordan that I think will develop nicely and they will be the future front 4. No way do they get rid of Spags after one year considering all the distractions and every DC has their schemes and zone scheme is Spags specialty so it will be the same scheme we will play next year. Just as well let the young guys learn it this year so they will understand it better for next year. Yes the defense is terrible this year but we made enough mistakes on offense that cost us wins as well. The season is probably done this year, I still have hope but basically we have to win at least 8 out of 9 to have a shot at the playoffs so we just as soon stick with the zone scheme and learn it so that there isn't any breakdowns next year.

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HA! I think I saw either Robinson or Jenkins attempt to make a tackle with the back of his head. SAD!

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He knows the definition of insanity but yet they keep doing the same thing over and over. I have an idea, try sitting the sad a$$ players who are bringing us down and play the young guys more.

It's reads a bit like,"We don't have a clue what to do about this".

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"Zone coverage schemes require the linebackers and defensive backs to work together to cover certain areas of the field,"

Sh1t aint workin.

" making it difficult for the opposing quarterback to complete passes"

Sh1t aint workin.

Obviously what have can't play zone (explains GW defense), what we are "trying" is actually making it easier for QGs to complete passes because no one is there when the receiver rcatches the ball.

"Zone defenses will generally require linebackers to cover the short and midrange area in the middle of the field, "

Shanle fail. Hawthorne not so good for this and Lofton is better at the run. Our line backers are slow.
sh1t aint workin

" In the case where one or two linebackers blitz, the remaining linebacker(s) expands his zone to cover the zone responsibilities of the vacating linebacker(s). Often, blitzing will leave larger holes in the pass defense, but it is a gamble the defensive coordinator wants to make to pressure the quarterback into a poor decision and hopefully an interception or at least an incompletion"

Blitz or no blitz QBs have all day.
Sh1t aint workin.

We are now in week 9 that means these players have had over 60 days in cleats to learn this. For you an I that is 12 work weeks to learn a new way to do our job at work. neither you nor I would have a job at this point. .. At what point do you say 'this sh1t aint workin", lets do something to salvage the remainder of the season and give the offense a chance at winning some games.

Specialty Coaches are stubborn, their personalities lend to the type of person that will kick a horse way past death to try and "make it work"..

http://marccortez.com/wp-content/upl...ead-horse.jpeg

No Joe and Steve... the damn horse didnt move.

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Again, let this be a lesson to everyone in the Saints kingdom -

Joe Vitt was not "the answer" last week (he's the linebackers coach)
Joe Vitt DOES NOT sound better than Kromer at the mic (he sounds like he's talking out the side of neck)

Now let's hope Joe stops answering question that further frustrate fans and decides to make changes on the field where we can see results....

Because, honestly, Joe's pie trap has become annoying for me to listen to.
All I ever heard from Kromer was how he would make improvements. Fans got frustrated with that................until he won 2 games in a row. Now Joe is handed the job and Saints return to pre-game one/square one.

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Joe also has terrible posture. :)

Where is your neck Joe? Dont I remember you from Men in black?
http://brightcove01.brightcove.com/6...d=268012958001

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The 2012 season in a nutshell:


Joe Vitt

Re: Vitt: Too late for Saints to make wholesale changes on defense
 

Translation...we will loose more games than you may think.

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Right now the only way that happens is if we make it to the playoffs.

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Who's the best defensive player in the draft? Top 5 pick is a real possibility

Who thinks we trade back and get a couple picks in the first round?

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Honestly, I hope we stand pat or move up. Apparently most defensive players develop slower than their offensive counter parts. We need an impact player in the front seven desperately. Hopefully, we bring in a monster DT but from what I've read the draft doesn't have a 4-3 DT that fits Spags schemes. I think our DE's have promise and we could stand pat for the moment.

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I hope we don't target a position. I'd be OK with targeting defense, unless a stud LT or WR falls into our lap.

I just want the best available player at DT/DE/OLB/CB/S/OT/WR.

If the next Wiile Roaf or Jerry Rice is there when we pick, I have no problems going offense at all.

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That's probably not far off the mark. They know something is wrong, but either can't figure out what it is, or they don't have the right parts to fix the problem. Bringing in unsigned guys off the street is probably not the answer, so it looks like we'll be waiting until the offseason to sign "the right parts".

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Bring back Kromer! :p

Seriously, what happened to the spin move the D-line was doing during the Chargers game and some of the Bucs game? Why stop doing that?

Wiggle, jiggle, fart, do some-freaking-thing!

At least with the d-line spin move, Will Smith looked like a Churning Butter-roll as opposed to the Pillsbury Doughboy.

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Galette and Wilson were the only ones making moves to get to the QB, give them much more playing time along with akiem hicks and you'll see some moves lol

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Just when I thought nothing could make me feel worse than Steve Spagnuolo's recent comments on our defense, Vitt comes along and proves me wrong.