Mighty12 / SaintsBro

You should both read the context to which my reply was intended. See quote in reply.

Then reality might set in with you.

SaintsBro
In the "real world", if you blow a 14 point lead its your defense or your your offense, not the other teams kicker.

Mighty12
The other teams kicker does not effect out extra points.

No need to lash out at me because you didn't get what you wanted for Christmas. My previous reply still stands. And is valid.

Re: What are we going to do about Hartley?
 

I was about 75% sure he was going to miss the OT FG against Dallas. Fans should not have that feeling about a kick like that. I wanted to run it 3 times and then kick if we had to.

Re: What are we going to do about Hartley?
 

Easy. He needs some good competition brought in.
If I were him, during off season, I would be out there practicing.

Re: What are we going to do about Hartley?
 

Sounds like the Randy Bullock (Texas A&M) story from last year. 2011 Lou Graza Award winner, drafted in the fifth round by the Houston Texans. Spent the entire season on IR with a groin tear.

Gotta' be careful with these guys with the big legs, you can end up right back where you started from.

Re: What are we going to do about Hartley?
 

He is a head case. Do you guys really back him is we find ourselves in a position to go to the playoffs/superbowl depending on his foot? Yes, granted our superbowl year was his shining moment and we all thought we had a clutch kicker. But every year since has proven that is not the case. Every time he comes in for any kick (not an extra point, but sometimes them also) I have a 40 point spike in my blood pressure. Reminds me of crawling under my seat when Bush was returning punts. There has got to be a better option out there.
And if he is coming in for another team to possibly beat us, I like our chances. Rather have him on that side.

Re: What are we going to do about Hartley?
 

2 years ago he missed a chip shot against ATL that sent our season on a different path. We likely would have had HFA. This year he missed in Green Bay which was a season killer. If he was missing longer, difficult kicks I would be more forgiving.

Re: What are we going to do about Hartley?
 

Yeah I venture to say he cost us the GB and KC game.

That is a difference of being 9-6 right now compared to the 7-8 we currently setting on.

seems like he cost us another game to some point in the season, I dont remember.

Re: What are we going to do about Hartley?
 

In my opinion (even though he's a bears player) robbie gould shows how to make every kick

on the chip shots he doesnt try to smack it like hartley does, hartley treats a 20 yarder like a 50 yarder and tries to snap the net

Gould "chips" the chip shot FGs and smacks the longer range, thats why he's been reliable for all his career

Re: What are we going to do about Hartley?
 

Maybe he needs a better coach? Our WR coach left last year for the Tulane job and look at all of the dropped passes....

Re: What are we going to do about Hartley?
 

I'm not a Hartly fan by any means but it amazes me how people can soley blame him for the Green Bay and KC loss.
I mean really... the other 52 players and 59:00 minutes had nothing to do right?

For some reason I can't understand half of you