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WhoDat!656 11-23-2012 05:36 PM

Saints vs 49ers: What They’re Not Telling You
 
Somewhere, in the darkness of the night, a plane moved across the sky from San Francisco to New Orleans. I can imagine Drew Brees staring into the darkness that enveloped the plane, mulling over the plays he wish he had back against the 49ers in their playoff tilt. Shortly following that loss, albeit a couple of minutes or a few days, Brees, along with the rest of the Saints, promised themselves and each other not to give up on this team. Through it all, the Saints have shown a tremendous amount of audacity. It feels as though the Saints have lost more this season than the Detroit Lions did in the 80′s. Somehow, the Saints have seen their way through it all and finally have a chance at getting above .500. The San Francisco 49ers come into town on Sunday boasting one of the best defenses in the league. The 49ers are 2nd in the league in yards allowed per game with 277.7 yd/g, with only the Steelers ahead of them. The Niners also lead the league in points allowed per game, only giving up a paltry 13.4 per game. That’s amazing! But wait a minute, let’s delve a little deeper into that number and we’ll see how deceiving that is. In five games this season, the 49ers have held their opponents to 7 points or less. Take a look at the numbers and the stats.

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Danno 11-23-2012 05:42 PM

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Not bad. A lot of selective stats but very interesting.

However I doubt we score 38 on the 49ers without a defensive TD and/or a special teams TD.

I hope the players don't think this will be as easy.

AlaskaSaints 11-23-2012 05:52 PM

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In 48 hours it'll be in the books and we'll be basically IN or OUT.

Consult your doctor before beginning an aspirin regimen. F' DAT. I'm taking a whole bottle to this game!

Alaska

st thomas 11-23-2012 05:59 PM

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I'll take a 3-2 win any time or where in nov.

WhoDat!656 11-23-2012 06:13 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by st thomas (Post 459143)
I'll take a 3-2 win any time or where in nov.

Make it a 7-2 win with a Brees TD pass so his consecutive TD streak continues!

SanDiego49er 11-23-2012 07:17 PM

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Yeah we got a good defense. Good stopping the pass and run and not allowing many points.

UK_WhoDat 11-24-2012 10:31 AM

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I reckon we do not get 38 either.
If we can hold them to 20, we stand a very good chance.

To the game.

halloween 65 11-24-2012 11:08 AM

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Good read, but our D still has to show up period!! Someone on the D has to catch fire and set the tone for the others to feed off of, Denver made the D look like school kids and thats the D I'm scared of that could show up at any time. If we win it has to be a great effort on both sides of the ball, not just 1.

NOS2SB 11-24-2012 11:12 AM

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It's NOVEMBER.

SmashMouth 11-24-2012 11:20 AM

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I reckon if the Rams can score 24, we should be able to score at least 30, given no turnovers on our part. 38 is certainly doable too.

Seer1 11-24-2012 12:27 PM

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It's not D...rew wishing for any plays back it's just plain D that wants that. We had five turnovers and still had the game in our pocket with one defensive stop. Here's to hoping for a better showing this year.

Marlboro Man 11-24-2012 04:57 PM

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If we don't turn the ball over, and don't quit on the run game, we take this game and I think 38 is very reasonable. What I want to see is no stupid penalties, no stupid antics of any kind all game long and even after the game. Don't give these guys ammunition for our next meeting in the playoffs.

BIGEASY504 11-24-2012 08:59 PM

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This is an interesting stat if you look at the last 6 games but we still given up a lot of yards

PAST 6 GAMES
Record OPP PTS PG Sacks

Steelers D* 4-2 17.3 12
49ers D** 4-1-1 11.5 15
Saints D 5-1 23.8 18

* Steelers defense is #1 overall in the league

** 49ers defense is #2 overall in the league

pherein 11-25-2012 06:13 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by SanDiego49er (Post 459153)
Yeah we got a good defense. Good stopping the pass and run and not allowing many points.

I agree, SF has a good defense, but your DL and Total defense is not better than last year, and thats a defense we put 32 pts on at your stadium. Not the fast track of the Dome.

SF has played off and on all season, so your defense is very beatable, especially with the Saints offense that has remained constantly elite for 6 years. Its not going to be easy, but we have blown out elite defenses before, same as we carved up your defense last year.

IF you don't believe me here are your rankings

2011 DEFENSIVE EFFICIENCY RATINGS #3
FOOTBALL OUTSIDERS: Innovative Statistics, Intelligent Analysis | 2011 DEFENSIVE EFFICIENCY RATINGS

2012 DEFENSIVE EFFICIENCY RATINGS #6
FOOTBALL OUTSIDERS: Innovative Statistics, Intelligent Analysis | 2012 DEFENSIVE EFFICIENCY RATINGS

2011 DEFENSIVE LINES #4
FOOTBALL OUTSIDERS: Innovative Statistics, Intelligent Analysis | 2011 DEFENSIVE LINES

2012 DEFENSIVE LINES #14
FOOTBALL OUTSIDERS: Innovative Statistics, Intelligent Analysis | 2012 DEFENSIVE LINES

Im really not understanding why SF fans think their defense is better than last year, because its simply not. Im sure its just the Bears game that makes them think that, and thats just silly vs the #32 pass protection OL in the NFL.

Buy the way your OL is #31 in pass protection :) That should be fun.

jeanpierre 11-25-2012 11:26 AM

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Is this the Game Day Thread?

Vrillon82 11-25-2012 11:32 AM

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Well what they dont really tell you about rankings is that it is skewed based on the Division.

49ers play in a division where offense is 2nd rate to defense.

Many teams are like this, Ravens ring a bell? Everytime they have faced a good offense, that offense has scored so much on them its pitiful.

Is the 49ers Defense that great?

No

Why do they win?

Because they have balance, a Balanced game produces more wins, that and they do face alot of cupcakes or teams at the right time.

I think todays game is the 49ers facing the Saints at the wrong time, Wrong time for the 49ers that is, and the 49ers will lose that battle.

Rugby Saint II 11-25-2012 01:09 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by SanDiego49er (Post 459153)
Yeah we got a good defense. Good stopping the pass and run and not allowing many points.

How sweet of you to come here and share your ignorance.

WillSaints81 11-25-2012 02:08 PM

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This game I don't think is the make or break. I think if we have 7 losses is when that happens. Honestly these next two we need to get through at least 1-1 because I feel confident in our last four. I thought 9-7 could be okay to have just one problem with that.....the redskins. If they split their next two games it comes down to if Eagles go on a late run and if they do they can beat them week 16 especially if Vick is back as he has had their number. Seattle has to lose to Miami though today for that to happen. Its 14-7 Seattle atm.

WillSaints81 11-25-2012 03:13 PM

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Seattle lost and so did the bucs. Its in our control now.


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