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AlaskaSaints 11-25-2012 07:20 PM

WHO IS Jimmy Graham?
 
Did we trade him?
Why did we not utiliize him?

Don't give me, "Drew didn't have time", BS.

WE F'n forgot how to WIN.

Ingram or Ivory ANYWHERE but in the middle? NOPE

Lance anywhere but deep off his feet over the middle? NOPE

WHO is Henderson? Where could he be?

This game is exactly why we will not be Champions again. Period. I'm pizzed.

WE FORGET HOW TO WIN TRYING TO BEAT A DEFENSE THAT ISN'T THERE.

Alaska

CharityMike 11-25-2012 07:25 PM

Re: WHO IS Jimmy Graham?
 
He was bottled up by one of the better MLB in the NFL? I'll give you the play calling was crap. But I think it had a lot to do with the team we were playing. We had to play mistake free football and we didn't.

dizzle88 11-25-2012 07:26 PM

Re: WHO IS Jimmy Graham?
 
O line got man handled, Carmichael doesn't trust to run near the tackles, they shouldn't be trusted to even pass block
Brees was gambling with the ball, you only saw two picks today because of a great play by lance on the long pass and joe Morgan using offensive PI to prevent a interception, it could have easily been a lot more
Without Payton it looks like our entire philosophy on offense has been forgotten, we don't let Henderson go deep anymore, we can't protect brees like we used to and brees forces the ball way too much
Jimmy is inconsistent, makes a huge catch, then drops a 3rd and 7 crucial catch

AlaskaSaints 11-25-2012 07:36 PM

Re: WHO IS Jimmy Graham?
 
I'm exhausted. Nearly had to fight my way out of our OWN bar tonight.

Emotional contribution - EXPENDED

Pizzed.

Alaska

AlaskaSaints 11-25-2012 07:38 PM

Re: WHO IS Jimmy Graham?
 
DID WE EVER throw a screen?

Seriously?

Did we?

Alaska

SmashMouth 11-25-2012 07:39 PM

Re: WHO IS Jimmy Graham?
 
We did not see much of his FortyWhiner counterpart either, Vernon Davis. Still, we could have used him a bit more.

AllSaints 11-25-2012 07:45 PM

Re: WHO IS Jimmy Graham?
 
2 pick 6 killed us.....

AlaskaSaints 11-25-2012 07:51 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by AllSaints (Post 459685)
2 pick 6 killed us.....

Yeah. Because we didn't play Saints football. How simple is that?

How many Sproles screens did you see? WIN

How many Ivory off-right-tackle did you see?

Did you see Brees RUN the F'n football?

Ivory screen or off-tackle?

Reverse?

This looked like a "okay, you guys have made it look good enough... now LOSE game."

Alaska

OldMaid 11-25-2012 07:54 PM

Re: WHO IS Jimmy Graham?
 
I think all of you are right, but AllSaints, yeah, that did it in really. 14 pts. there for SF49's. Easy TD's for SF49's.
Alaska, I had asked in Live chat during the game, what is it :confused: with up the middle again and again? I said I assume it is because they felt it was safer at that time.

After tonight, I am not posting about this game.

Come on Thursday.
Saints can beat AtlFal AGAIN!!!
:bng:

OldMaid 11-25-2012 07:56 PM

Re: WHO IS Jimmy Graham?
 
SF did a lot of fake passes too. Give them props for being clever.

AllSaints 11-25-2012 07:57 PM

Re: WHO IS Jimmy Graham?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by AlaskaSaints (Post 459687)
Yeah. Because we didn't play Saints football. How simple is that?

How many Sproles screens did you see? WIN

How many Ivory off-right-tackle did you see?

Did you see Brees RUN the F'n football?

Ivory screen or off-tackle?

Reverse?

This looked like a "okay, you guys have made it look good enough... now LOSE game."

Alaska

I agree with you our play calling this game had me scratching my head... PT got hardly no touches... and Graham was no where to be found....IDK its like once we r down they decide we need to start playin... I for sure was waitin on sum screens after they kept getting pressure....

73Saint 11-25-2012 08:00 PM

Re: WHO IS Jimmy Graham?
 
I wonder what this season will do for Jimmy's upcoming contract negotiations. Can't see it helping him much.

Marlboro Man 11-25-2012 08:13 PM

Re: WHO IS Jimmy Graham?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by AlaskaSaints (Post 459675)
DID WE EVER throw a screen?

Seriously?

Did we?

Alaska

I actually don't think so. Oh wait, yes we did one to Sproles out to the right flat where he got mauled. They were so ready for those. If I'm PT and Ivory, I'm pissed tonite. Just saying.

AlaskaSaints 11-25-2012 08:30 PM

Re: WHO IS Jimmy Graham?
 
49ers fan kept hollering at me, "WhoDat!" I told him I'd kick his teeth in if he kept making it personal. Before the game was over I congratulated him.
THEY F'N OWN US.

Simple as THAT.

Well coached on their end. We assumed we could go back and play last year's game over an win it, but without Jimmy Graham this time?

WTF?

Alaska

AlaskaSaints 11-25-2012 08:31 PM

Re: WHO IS Jimmy Graham?
 
"Sproles"

WHO?

Alaska

Jamessr 11-25-2012 10:12 PM

Re: WHO IS Jimmy Graham?
 
Looks like weeks 1-4 all over again... They better figure this out because we don't have anyone coming in to help us till Feb.

bobdog86 11-26-2012 12:15 AM

Re: WHO IS Jimmy Graham?
 
2 pick sixes for TD's was the difference. The Defense played well enough to win. And there is a big difference between KC/Wash and the niners. The niner D makes a lot of teams look like dog doo. Cut the number of RB's we use in half, get rid of the dead weight on defense and we'll be fine. Maybe not this season, but next year.

alleycat_126 11-26-2012 05:27 AM

Re: WHO IS Jimmy Graham?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by AlaskaSaints (Post 459675)
DID WE EVER throw a screen?

Seriously?

Did we?

Alaska

Im sorry, arent those timing patterns???? Did you see or O Line produce any time back there or was Drew picked up off the ground time after time!!!!

alleycat_126 11-26-2012 05:29 AM

Re: WHO IS Jimmy Graham?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by AlaskaSaints (Post 459726)
"Sproles"

WHO?

Alaska

I believe it was a mistake to bring him back in this situaton when you had been running so well. But it would have taken every bullet in the holster to beat the niners!!!!

alleycat_126 11-26-2012 05:55 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by bobdog86 (Post 459771)
2 pick sixes for TD's was the difference. The Defense played well enough to win. And there is a big difference between KC/Wash and the niners. The niner D makes a lot of teams look like dog doo. Cut the number of RB's we use in half, get rid of the dead weight on defense and we'll be fine. Maybe not this season, but next year.

It's amazing how some people throw our team under the bus immediately after loses, but others like yourself have common sense, and then post comments that make perfect sense.

2 mistakes that the 49ers turned into 14 pts. Even though the D played much improved you still left them out there for 9 minutes in the 3rd where the 49ers converted 3rd down after third down, and that was the game.

saintsfan1976 11-26-2012 06:19 AM

Re: WHO IS Jimmy Graham?
 
We missed Sean Payton.

Period.

SaintsBro 11-26-2012 10:24 AM

Re: WHO IS Jimmy Graham?
 
We'll never know what was intended for Jimmy in the second half....but if we could somehow wave a magic wand, go back in time and magically turn a few of those second half DREW BREES SACKS into JIMMY GRAHAM CATCHES, then Graham's numbers for the night would probably actually be about normal for him against a tough defense like the Niners.

Graham can't catch anything, if Drew is repeatedly being slammed to the turf like a rag doll, being thrown down onto his surgically repaired shoulder, over and over and over again all night.


Graham was present and accounted for early in the game, he was making some catches. After the two pick sixes, the Niners sent the house at Drew on every play it was really just garbage time the rest of the night after the two pick sixes.

TheOak 11-26-2012 10:24 AM

Re: WHO IS Jimmy Graham?
 
Jimmy has been going through a case of the dropsies all season.

CharityMike 11-26-2012 10:31 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by TheOak (Post 459947)
Jimmy has been going through a case of the dropsies all season.

Thats putting it mildly. He leads the NFL in dropped pass

1 Jimmy Graham NO 9
2t Victor Cruz NYG 8
2t Doug Martin TB 8
2t Brandon Pettigrew Det 8

NFL Leaders - Pass Dropped - Football - NBC Sports

Mardigras9 11-26-2012 01:56 PM

Re: WHO IS Jimmy Graham?
 
He is a linebacker abuser usually. The niners have a whole different level of LB's though. They handled Graham, simple as that.

JPPT1974 11-26-2012 03:20 PM

Re: WHO IS Jimmy Graham?
 
Everybody seems to be missing Sean Payton a whole lot this year. Your coach can affect your team indeed.

Shoe. 11-26-2012 03:48 PM

Re: WHO IS Jimmy Graham?
 
Let's look at it this way, at least we'll be getting Jimmy for a heckuva lot cheaper than we thought!

Crusader 11-26-2012 03:59 PM

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We might but I wouldn't be so certain.

Joker 11-26-2012 04:02 PM

Re: WHO IS Jimmy Graham?
 
The 49ers prepared well for the Saints, it's almost like they game planned around what they saw, then question is who is game planning for the Saints. Sean Payton is missed in games like this where just doing what you normally do wont work, have to show them something they haven't seen before and that just didn't happen.
IMO the Saints have become Predictable!!!! Just saying

CharityMike 11-26-2012 04:17 PM

Re: WHO IS Jimmy Graham?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Joker (Post 460037)
The 49ers prepared well for the Saints, it's almost like they game planned around what they saw, then question is who is game planning for the Saints. Sean Payton is missed in games like this where just doing what you normally do wont work, have to show them something they haven't seen before and that just didn't happen.
IMO the Saints have become Predictable!!!! Just saying

You are not the first one here to blow that horn believe me. Carmichaels play calling is suspect which is why I believe Sean called the plays. He has no guts and coach's scared.

Rugby Saint II 11-26-2012 04:18 PM

Re: WHO IS Jimmy Graham?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Joker (Post 460037)
The 49ers prepared well for the Saints, it's almost like they game planned around what they saw, then question is who is game planning for the Saints. Sean Payton is missed in games like this where just doing what you normally do wont work, have to show them something they haven't seen before and that just didn't happen.
IMO the Saints have become Predictable!!!! Just saying

This is it!

Joker 11-26-2012 04:27 PM

Re: WHO IS Jimmy Graham?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by CharityMike (Post 460042)
You are not the first one here to blow that horn believe me. Carmichaels play calling is suspect which is why I believe Sean called the plays. He has no guts and coach's scared.

Mike. It's not just Carmichaels play calling, it's the whole package. They're missing a head coach a game planner. The defense has been improved because they're blitzing on the majority of defensive plays, this was no different in the 49er game Sunday.

jeanpierre 11-27-2012 07:37 AM

Re: WHO IS Jimmy Graham?
 
The 49ers played their defense that they usually play - a hard-hittin, ball-hawking 3-4 defense...

And the Saints have had their issues against the 3-4 defense that features larger, more physical Linebackers...

And most importantly, we were down to the guy that delivered the hot dogs to the Superdome that morning playing Right Tackle - so he had to help in pass protection...


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