On second thought...

WhoDat!656 · 11-25-2012, 09:35 PM

I was laying this loss at the feet of Brees because of the 2 pick 6s he threw; although the last one off the tipped pass to Colston wasn't really Brees' fault.

After thinking about the game, I am shifting the majority of the blame to the defense.

The 40-whiners had the ball with a couple minutes left in the THIRD quarter, and there was between 9-10 minutes left in the FOURTH quarter before the offense got back on the field.

**If our defense is so bad, and they are bad, why does it take so long for teams to score against them?**

If the defense had either made/let them punt/score earlier, the offense would have had more time.

AlaskaSaints · 11-25-2012, 09:41 PM

Answer:

Because we rushed for less than 125 yards.

Period.

And made no attempt to rush for more than 61 yards.

Period.

All else does not matter.

Alaska

frydaddy · 11-25-2012, 09:49 PM

I see your point, and I'll raise you a counter-point. Our offense had several possessions. More than enough to be able to dominate the 49ers, and did precious little with them. As I said in another thread, I feel fairly certain we wouldn't have made it to 21 without the early Christmas gift Ted ginn gave us with that fumble... I agree that the defense needed to man up on that 9 minute effing drive and get a stop a lot sooner, but I have no reason to suspect our offense would have risen to the occasion.

frydaddy · 11-25-2012, 09:58 PM

Found the following in an article on NFL.com

"Of the Saints' first 12 drives, just three went more than 15 yards. The Saints' second half started with an interception, a touchdown, a three-and-out, then two very short drives that culminated with turnovers on downs."

That's mind-blowing

OldMaid · 11-26-2012, 06:15 AM

Originally Posted by frydaddy

Found the following in an article on NFL.com

"Of the Saints' first 12 drives, just three went more than 15 yards. The Saints' second half started with an interception, a touchdown, a three-and-out, then two very short drives that culminated with turnovers on downs."

That's mind-blowing

That's turnovering. That's breaking down.

Things happen.
It take two sides of the team to work.
Even after that, Saints could have , should have come back strong.
SF did.

On to Thursday

Jamessr · 11-25-2012, 10:06 PM

People need to get if this Brees doesn't make mistakes mentality. The defense played a great game. 14 of those points are Drews fault! Colston having to jump up 4 feet to catch that and almost getting hurt is Drews fault! Last week people are saying it soley Hartly's fault we lost 2 games because he missed 2 field goals but yet noone is ever willing to assign Drew any blame. The hypocrisy around here is unreal!!!

alleycat_126 · 11-26-2012, 05:59 AM

Originally Posted by Jamessr

People need to get if this Brees doesn't make mistakes mentality. The defense played a great game. 14 of those points are Drews fault! Colston having to jump up 4 feet to catch that and almost getting hurt is Drews fault! Last week people are saying it soley Hartly's fault we lost 2 games because he missed 2 field goals but yet noone is ever willing to assign Drew any blame. The hypocrisy around here is unreal!!!

I am willing to pin this loss on Drew... defintely. But um that's what Colston get paid to do go up and make crazy catches. Especially if he gets his hand on the ball!!!!

Jamessr · 11-26-2012, 06:53 AM

Originally Posted by alleycat_126

I am willing to pin this loss on Drew... defintely. But um that's what Colston get paid to do go up and make crazy catches. Especially if he gets his hand on the ball!!!!

Colston is what? 6'5" or 6'4"? Considering he had to jump up 4-5 feet to get his hands on it shows how badly thrownthat ball was. The guy almost got his neck broke trying to catch that pass and yet you want to blame him? really?

dizzle88 · 11-26-2012, 07:39 AM

Originally Posted by Jamessr

Colston is what? 6'5" or 6'4"? Considering he had to jump up 4-5 feet to get his hands on it shows how badly thrownthat ball was. The guy almost got his neck broke trying to catch that pass and yet you want to blame him? really?

ridiculous isnt it?

There saying its okay drew hung colston out to dry because colston normally makes those? drew nearly put colston on IR

If colstons job is to go and make those tough catches, then brees' 100M contract should say no dumb mistakes, but he still makes them

Jamessr · 11-26-2012, 08:05 AM

Originally Posted by dizzle88

If colstons job is to go and make those tough catches, then brees' 100M contract should say no dumb mistakes, but he still makes them

Exactly

11-25-2012, 09:35 PM	#1
WhoDat!656 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Shreveport,Louisiana Posts: 16,085	On second thought... I was laying this loss at the feet of Brees because of the 2 pick 6s he threw; although the last one off the tipped pass to Colston wasn't really Brees' fault. After thinking about the game, I am shifting the majority of the blame to the defense. The 40-whiners had the ball with a couple minutes left in the THIRD quarter, and there was between 9-10 minutes left in the FOURTH quarter before the offense got back on the field. If our defense is so bad, and they are bad, why does it take so long for teams to score against them? If the defense had either made/let them punt/score earlier, the offense would have had more time.
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11-25-2012, 09:41 PM	#2
AlaskaSaints 1000 Posts + Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Anchorage, AK Posts: 2,484 Blog Entries: 2	Re: On second thought... Answer: Because we rushed for less than 125 yards. Period. And made no attempt to rush for more than 61 yards. Period. All else does not matter. Alaska

11-25-2012, 09:49 PM	#3
frydaddy 1000 Posts + Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Lafayette Posts: 1,952 Blog Entries: 1	Re: On second thought... I see your point, and I'll raise you a counter-point. Our offense had several possessions. More than enough to be able to dominate the 49ers, and did precious little with them. As I said in another thread, I feel fairly certain we wouldn't have made it to 21 without the early Christmas gift Ted ginn gave us with that fumble... I agree that the defense needed to man up on that 9 minute effing drive and get a stop a lot sooner, but I have no reason to suspect our offense would have risen to the occasion.
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11-25-2012, 09:58 PM	#4
frydaddy 1000 Posts + Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Lafayette Posts: 1,952 Blog Entries: 1	Re: On second thought... Found the following in an article on NFL.com "Of the Saints' first 12 drives, just three went more than 15 yards. The Saints' second half started with an interception, a touchdown, a three-and-out, then two very short drives that culminated with turnovers on downs." That's mind-blowing

11-26-2012, 06:15 AM	#5
OldMaid Site Donor 2014 Join Date: Feb 2010 Posts: 2,917 Blog Entries: 3	Re: On second thought... Originally Posted by frydaddy Found the following in an article on NFL.com "Of the Saints' first 12 drives, just three went more than 15 yards. The Saints' second half started with an interception, a touchdown, a three-and-out, then two very short drives that culminated with turnovers on downs." That's mind-blowing That's turnovering. That's breaking down. Things happen. It take two sides of the team to work. Even after that, Saints could have , should have come back strong. SF did. On to Thursday

11-25-2012, 10:06 PM	#6
Jamessr 1000 Posts + Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: Newport News, VA Posts: 1,583	Re: On second thought... People need to get if this Brees doesn't make mistakes mentality. The defense played a great game. 14 of those points are Drews fault! Colston having to jump up 4 feet to catch that and almost getting hurt is Drews fault! Last week people are saying it soley Hartly's fault we lost 2 games because he missed 2 field goals but yet noone is ever willing to assign Drew any blame. The hypocrisy around here is unreal!!! D_it_up likes this.

11-26-2012, 05:59 AM	#7
alleycat_126 1000 Posts + Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Katy, Tx a suburb of Houston Posts: 2,089	Re: On second thought... Originally Posted by Jamessr People need to get if this Brees doesn't make mistakes mentality. The defense played a great game. 14 of those points are Drews fault! Colston having to jump up 4 feet to catch that and almost getting hurt is Drews fault! Last week people are saying it soley Hartly's fault we lost 2 games because he missed 2 field goals but yet noone is ever willing to assign Drew any blame. The hypocrisy around here is unreal!!! I am willing to pin this loss on Drew... defintely. But um that's what Colston get paid to do go up and make crazy catches. Especially if he gets his hand on the ball!!!!

11-26-2012, 06:53 AM	#8
Jamessr 1000 Posts + Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: Newport News, VA Posts: 1,583	Re: On second thought... Originally Posted by alleycat_126 I am willing to pin this loss on Drew... defintely. But um that's what Colston get paid to do go up and make crazy catches. Especially if he gets his hand on the ball!!!! Colston is what? 6'5" or 6'4"? Considering he had to jump up 4-5 feet to get his hands on it shows how badly thrownthat ball was. The guy almost got his neck broke trying to catch that pass and yet you want to blame him? really? dizzle88 likes this.

11-26-2012, 07:39 AM	#9
dizzle88 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 11,518	Re: On second thought... Originally Posted by Jamessr Colston is what? 6'5" or 6'4"? Considering he had to jump up 4-5 feet to get his hands on it shows how badly thrownthat ball was. The guy almost got his neck broke trying to catch that pass and yet you want to blame him? really? ridiculous isnt it? There saying its okay drew hung colston out to dry because colston normally makes those? drew nearly put colston on IR If colstons job is to go and make those tough catches, then brees' 100M contract should say no dumb mistakes, but he still makes them Jamessr likes this.

11-26-2012, 08:05 AM	#10
Jamessr 1000 Posts + Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: Newport News, VA Posts: 1,583	Re: On second thought... Originally Posted by dizzle88 If colstons job is to go and make those tough catches, then brees' 100M contract should say no dumb mistakes, but he still makes them Exactly

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