If we Win out! (a voice of reason)
 

We will be .500 Nothing more...


Did your blood boil from the title? :)

Start laughing about this season, seriously. If you don't the next 3 games will make you want to watch the Home Shopping Network.


We KNEW this season was coming, we KNEW how it would be before the start of preseason. Learn to be satisfied with what wins we ended up with.

Hopefully at the end of this season, we as fans will understand that no one player or coach was the cause. We should also understand that "One Sunday at a time" is not all about just looking at the upcoming week, but letting last week go. As we near the end of the season, we are falling apart, not because our players are bad but because we have no coach to look our players in the eyes and tell them, "LET IT GO" and focus on the now.

The stress, strain, changes, have taken its mental toll on everyone. Fans included. The team is at 100% frustration and if you do a job where frustration can get involved you understand that when you are frustrated you do not preform as well. No matter how professional you are.

This is just the voice of reason.

Go in peace.

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Pretty much sums it up, it is the cards we were dealt no real surprises.
If you put it in prospective like Oak did you will keep your sanity. If you took Bill Belichick away from the Patriots for a year I'm sure they would have a similar fate as the Saints. I will admit the loss to the Giants ripped out whatever guts I had left even worse than the Atlanta game.

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I didn't expect this at all man. I mean they are professional athletes. I thought they'd be so pumped up and ready for the season. Not only should they've been inspired to play with ALL that happened. But a home town SB should've made them all the more inspired to play lights out football. No I didn't expect this kinda season at all. Even with the 0-4 start. I lost hope after the falcons game.

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To go with the expectations that since they were "professional" there would be little negative effect. You would have to also surmise the opposite, that professional soldiers gained nothing from Patton's speech.

Motivation and focus have nothing to do with being a Professional. Motivation and focus through controversy even less so. In the simplest of terms, human nature has nothing to do with professionalism.

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500. If its and but were candy and nuts ? Just a bad year.

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Didn't expect it to be this bad. Colts are handling the lost of their head coach a lot better than us although completely different circumstances and softer schedule. I still figured us to be 11-5 with the talent we have but I overlooked the stubbornness of wanting to pass deep every down instead of running the ball or check downs.

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Didn't think about that. Your 100% right. And that was a heck of a speech.

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Back when the Saints were 0-4 or 1-4, I had said to people that a 7-9 record would be fairly decent considering the turmoil this year. I'll expect more though when Payton's back and Spags is in his second year.

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I was about to blast the OP until I read it. If we win out...we get a worse draft pick, that's about it

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I'm okay with losing the next three games and scoring a great draft pick. At the level at which we are playing, it's not too much to ask.

We were dealt an extra-shatty hand and we played it hard. No shame in the way this is playing out, just disappointment.

Alaska

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We need to forget about this season. Its nice to be optimistic, but reality has to set in eventually. We are not going to the playoffs. The better we do these last few weeks, the worst of a 1st round pick we will have. I'm fine if we lose out, if it means getting a good pick in the 1st round. However we should NOT bench our starters. Let them play out.

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I think we will win out we're done playing contenders and Dallas is in a dome and we hate the cowboys especially after the stuff their media stirred up.

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I hope that everybody is wrong and it is not because Payton is not there.

I suspect it is because of other reasons...however, if it is because of Payton we may be in a world of poop, because I don't think he will ever be back.

I hope I am wrong. No...I actually hope I am right because I don't think it is Payton.

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You need to hope everyone is right... If not we have huge problem"S".

If it is not Sean Payton, would you care to enlighten us on the list of things that in your opinion need to happen to start rebuilding.

Why do you think he will not be back?

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I don't think he will be back because I don't think he likes living in a town that has the highest crime rate in the world...for one thing. I think the only thing that will keep him in NO is an injunction.

I also feel that he is a guy that needs a challenge and NO is no longer that. He can say, "Been there, done that."

As far as rebuilding...I'm not sure there is enough money to go around now, but we need big, strong, mean guys on the line on both sides of the ball.

People blame Payton not being on the sideline but I am having a hard time buying into that. If they had abandoned all of his schemes, etc., and had not learned one thing from him while he was on the sideline, maybe I could buy into it...but I think bountygate and Drewgate went a lot further towards what happened this year then Payton not being there during the games. The only blame I can point towards Payton is that he knew about bountygate and did nothing...and now he is not here...but I would say the scandal itself caused more anguish on the players than his absence on the sideline come gameday.

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Have you ever played the game, on the field? (not being sarcastic)


If crime rate were an issue there are a hand full or teams that would never have a coach.

There are more than one anomalies this season that points directly to poor coaching.

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I played through JC...how about you?

It is because I played that I make my statement. The coaches prepared us with plays and schemes...but come gameday I never much cared whether he was over there or not. My head coach never had much influence on me as I was much closer to the position coach who coached me on a daily basis. He was the guy that would come up behind me during practice and whisper in my ear...not the head coach. All he ever did was stand over there and holler "fiddlesticks!" when things didn't go well.

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I think crime rate of a city would be a concern for anyone looking to move a family there...don't you?

I am not saying that nobody will come to NO because there is a crime rate, I am just saying that if given a decision between NO and another city...even after we have won...considering what Katrina did, it would be a difficult decision for a guy with a family to pick NO.

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Honestly, if my family wasnt from here and lived here their whole life I would be outta here, living somewhere cleaner and somewhere where if i think i left my front door unlocked i dont have to turn around and go back home to lock it

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It's the Panthers, Bucs, and worse of all, the Cowboys. 8-8 sounds like a great way to finish the season.

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There are plenty of places within a 45 minute drive to New Orleans that players & coaches can live where there is next to no crime. I live in the Houston area now and people die here everyday from crime too but you have players & coaches that choose to live in The Woodlands, Sugarland and towns like these that are 45 minutes from the stadium. No one says you have to be walking distance to the stadium. Every major city has crime so I don't believe that is a factor. It all comes down to money!

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Last time I checked the dome was pretty much in the thick of things down there...walking distance from Bourbon St...and I know he has to go there at least 10 times a year. I don't think things are that much better out at the training facility...you know...where he works everyday. I could imagine they might pop over to have a po-boy one day and interrupt a hold-up in progress.

I am not trying to criticize NO, I am just talking about reality.

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Yes I know, but reality is there is crime in every major city not just New Orleans and by the way New Orleans was not in the top 11 cities with the most crime for 2011. The 11 Most Dangerous Cities - US News and World Report. I grew up within that 45 minutes of New Orleans I was referring to earlier. I love New Orleans but I wouldn't live in the city itself. I prefer quiet living sitting out back listening to the crickets and locus but it's fun hitting the quarter a couple weekends per month.

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Reality?

Compare Crime Rates New Orleans, LA - Dallas, TX

If he is worried about frikken crime rate, he is not going to Dallas Tx.

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I think he already lives in a pretty ritzy neighborhood not too far from the Dallas facilities. I could be wrong.

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Yes...I love the city, too. I grew up in Gulfport and it was a tradition to go to New Orleans every Christmas, to see the real Santa at Maison Blanche, and before they closed we would make it to Ponchartrain Beach on POP day every summer.

I admit that my only source of info is what I have heard since Katrina. I saw something on the internet that listed NO as the most dangerous place in the world, but I didn't check it to see if it was real or something someone just threw up there. If nothing else, they were trying to state that NO has become a dangerous place to be.

I actually do not have any first hand experience since the storm except going to the airport and stopping in Fat City for a po-boy once or twice. Other than that, it is just hearsay, including Ron's earlier post.

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So Dallas has neighborhoods immune to the crime but not New Orleans?

Shouldn't matter what neighborhood he lives in should it? Especially since your previous reasoning stated the crime around the field....


Make up your mind or stop trying to make sense of something that doesn't make sense.

Well sh1t Shirlock.... Cowboys Stadium is a violent place.
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Your right.. it all makes sense now... He is going to go and coach in Seattle where it is safe ... its even a top 10 safest city in America for 2012.


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I think Seattle would be a little too far of a commute, as he has already chosen Dallas as his place of residence...FOR WHATEVER REASON!

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She divorced him.... No need to commute.