2013 Saints - Free Agency Targets

FinSaint · 01-29-2013, 12:22 PM

Sharper wasn't pushed aside in favor of Jenkins - he simply couldn't get himself healthy enough to be at a 100% level, which was probably a big reason why he decided to retire after the 2010 season.

hagan714 · 01-29-2013, 01:45 PM

Sean Smith 6'3" / 218 / 25 /CB Miami

National Football League: NFL Draft 2009 - Sean Smith

The Miami Herald confirms that CB Sean Smith is likely to reach free agency without a deal in place with the Dolphins.
Smith and his agent are using Jason McCourty's six-year, $43 million contract as a baseline in negotiations, and plugged-in columnist Armando Salguero considers that too pricey even for the cap-rich Dolphins. Per Salguero, the Fins view Smith as more of a "good player" as opposed to a "game changer or playmaker." Jan 25 - 1:16 PM
Source: Miami Herald

if the saints are going to redo the defense and as i read it to get under the cap why not get a CB that can play safety also. granted the price maybe a bit step but no to make a push for a player of this size and skill set would be a shame.

major short comings is playing against smaller quicker wr but against bigger WR he is solid.

Good bye Harper to pull the move

Danno · 01-29-2013, 02:08 PM

Originally Posted by hagan714

if the saints are going to redo the defense and as i read it to get under the cap why not get a CB that can play safety also. granted the price maybe a bit step but no to make a push for a player of this size and skill set would be a shame.

major short comings is playing against smaller quicker wr but against bigger WR he is solid.

Good bye Harper to pull the move

And Good Bye to any decent free agent DE, DT, OT or OLB.

dizzle88 · 01-29-2013, 01:51 PM

If we got Sean smith I wouldn't want us to move him to safety

Our CB's are worse than our safeties, I'd let him start and let Greer and the others battle for the second starting spot

FinSaint · 01-29-2013, 04:13 PM

IDK, if they are using McCourty's deal as a guideline - 6-years $7M a year isn't really what this needs right now.

hagan714 · 01-29-2013, 04:55 PM

Originally Posted by FinSaint

IDK, if they are using McCourty's deal as a guideline - 6-years $7M a year isn't really what this needs right now.

thats what the wallet says i agree. but if the saints were to do a deal in this price range i have to ponder the secondary as the place to start. the dl has a couple of issues and so do the LB corp but the secondary needs a new infusion of attitude. i would still be open to wheel and dealing in the draft to add another bigger CB to the mix early also.

your a fin man give me some in site on the kid. i like what i saw against the pats the pass few years. i liked him coming out of college but thought a second was a bit high back then

FinSaint · 01-29-2013, 07:57 PM

Originally Posted by hagan714

your a fin man give me some in site on the kid. i like what i saw against the pats the pass few years. i liked him coming out of college but thought a second was a bit high back then

OK, it's understandable that you would think that, but my handle doesn't refer to me being a Dolphins' fan but to my nationality. I guess it would've made more sense to make the handle FinnSaint as Finnish people are referred to as Finns, but I was only thinking about the national code which is FIN when I hastily created the handle.

So, sorry about the mix up!

papz · 01-29-2013, 05:46 PM

Here's a little excerpt on Sean Smith from PFF...

First Downs Allowed in Coverage

It’s a relatively simple concept. We wanted to see which cornerbacks not only gave up the most first downs or touchdowns, but also who gave up the most relative to how often they’re in coverage. After all, someone in coverage for 500 snaps is infinitely more likely to give up results to the offense than a player in coverage for 300.

Now to the data.

Chain Movers

Where better to start than the raw numbers showing who gave up the most first downs? In that respect, [b]the first walk of shame belongs to Sean Smith, who was beaten for 40 first downs and six touchdowns in 2012. Those 46 combined first downs and touchdowns were one more than Cary Williams and Patrick Robinson, both of whom had 45 as their magical number. How about that, two of the three are about to be free agents. Interesting.

Here's the entire article: https://www.profootballfocus.com/blo...d-cornerbacks/

Still want Sean Smith?

hagan714 · 01-29-2013, 07:35 PM

Originally Posted by papz

Here's a little excerpt on Sean Smith from PFF...

Here's the entire article: https://www.profootballfocus.com/blo...d-cornerbacks/

Still want Sean Smith?

hmmmm interesting

ClintSaints · 01-29-2013, 05:53 PM

I want Osi.

01-29-2013, 12:22 PM	#1
FinSaint Site Donor 2015 Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Finland... formerly Southern Virginia Posts: 4,963	Re: 2013 Saints - Free Agency Targets Sharper wasn't pushed aside in favor of Jenkins - he simply couldn't get himself healthy enough to be at a 100% level, which was probably a big reason why he decided to retire after the 2010 season.

01-29-2013, 01:45 PM	#2
hagan714 LB Mentallity Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 15,870 Blog Entries: 68	Re: 2013 Saints - Free Agency Targets Sean Smith 6'3" / 218 / 25 /CB Miami National Football League: NFL Draft 2009 - Sean Smith The Miami Herald confirms that CB Sean Smith is likely to reach free agency without a deal in place with the Dolphins. Smith and his agent are using Jason McCourty's six-year, $43 million contract as a baseline in negotiations, and plugged-in columnist Armando Salguero considers that too pricey even for the cap-rich Dolphins. Per Salguero, the Fins view Smith as more of a "good player" as opposed to a "game changer or playmaker." Jan 25 - 1:16 PM Source: Miami Herald if the saints are going to redo the defense and as i read it to get under the cap why not get a CB that can play safety also. granted the price maybe a bit step but no to make a push for a player of this size and skill set would be a shame. major short comings is playing against smaller quicker wr but against bigger WR he is solid. Good bye Harper to pull the move
	"We may have lost the game, but you'll be hurting tomorrow." Doug Atkins Last edited by hagan714; 01-29-2013 at 01:48 PM..

01-29-2013, 02:08 PM	#3
Danno Truth Addict Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Spanish Fort, AL (via NO and B/R) Posts: 24,758	Re: 2013 Saints - Free Agency Targets Originally Posted by hagan714 if the saints are going to redo the defense and as i read it to get under the cap why not get a CB that can play safety also. granted the price maybe a bit step but no to make a push for a player of this size and skill set would be a shame. major short comings is playing against smaller quicker wr but against bigger WR he is solid. Good bye Harper to pull the move And Good Bye to any decent free agent DE, DT, OT or OLB.

01-29-2013, 01:51 PM	#4
dizzle88 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 11,535	Re: 2013 Saints - Free Agency Targets If we got Sean smith I wouldn't want us to move him to safety Our CB's are worse than our safeties, I'd let him start and let Greer and the others battle for the second starting spot

01-29-2013, 04:13 PM	#5
FinSaint Site Donor 2015 Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Finland... formerly Southern Virginia Posts: 4,963	Re: 2013 Saints - Free Agency Targets IDK, if they are using McCourty's deal as a guideline - 6-years $7M a year isn't really what this needs right now.

01-29-2013, 04:55 PM	#6
hagan714 LB Mentallity Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 15,870 Blog Entries: 68	Re: 2013 Saints - Free Agency Targets Originally Posted by FinSaint IDK, if they are using McCourty's deal as a guideline - 6-years $7M a year isn't really what this needs right now. thats what the wallet says i agree. but if the saints were to do a deal in this price range i have to ponder the secondary as the place to start. the dl has a couple of issues and so do the LB corp but the secondary needs a new infusion of attitude. i would still be open to wheel and dealing in the draft to add another bigger CB to the mix early also. your a fin man give me some in site on the kid. i like what i saw against the pats the pass few years. i liked him coming out of college but thought a second was a bit high back then
	"We may have lost the game, but you'll be hurting tomorrow." Doug Atkins

01-29-2013, 07:57 PM	#7
FinSaint Site Donor 2015 Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Finland... formerly Southern Virginia Posts: 4,963	Re: 2013 Saints - Free Agency Targets Originally Posted by hagan714 your a fin man give me some in site on the kid. i like what i saw against the pats the pass few years. i liked him coming out of college but thought a second was a bit high back then OK, it's understandable that you would think that, but my handle doesn't refer to me being a Dolphins' fan but to my nationality. I guess it would've made more sense to make the handle FinnSaint as Finnish people are referred to as Finns, but I was only thinking about the national code which is FIN when I hastily created the handle. So, sorry about the mix up! hagan714 likes this.

01-29-2013, 05:46 PM	#8
papz Problem? Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: New Orleans Posts: 11,793	Re: 2013 Saints - Free Agency Targets Here's a little excerpt on Sean Smith from PFF... First Downs Allowed in Coverage It’s a relatively simple concept. We wanted to see which cornerbacks not only gave up the most first downs or touchdowns, but also who gave up the most relative to how often they’re in coverage. After all, someone in coverage for 500 snaps is infinitely more likely to give up results to the offense than a player in coverage for 300. Now to the data. Chain Movers Where better to start than the raw numbers showing who gave up the most first downs? In that respect, [b]the first walk of shame belongs to Sean Smith, who was beaten for 40 first downs and six touchdowns in 2012. Those 46 combined first downs and touchdowns were one more than Cary Williams and Patrick Robinson, both of whom had 45 as their magical number. How about that, two of the three are about to be free agents. Interesting. Here's the entire article: https://www.profootballfocus.com/blo...d-cornerbacks/ Still want Sean Smith?

01-29-2013, 07:35 PM	#9
hagan714 LB Mentallity Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 15,870 Blog Entries: 68	Re: 2013 Saints - Free Agency Targets Originally Posted by papz Here's a little excerpt on Sean Smith from PFF... Here's the entire article: https://www.profootballfocus.com/blo...d-cornerbacks/ Still want Sean Smith? hmmmm interesting

01-29-2013, 05:53 PM	#10
ClintSaints 500th Post Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: Glendale, CA Posts: 603	Re: 2013 Saints - Free Agency Targets I want Osi.

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