#57
 

Shouldn't this number have been retired?

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IMO Yes!

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Yes and they should do it on our home opener next year.

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There are presently ZERO retired Saints Jerseys.

Not even Archie's.

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That retirement shine went off the day the Saints unretired #81 for that stupid Failclown we signed. I'm more for giving those numbers to players who earn them. We all know who wore what number and why it is special.

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First number to be retired should be No. 8 and it should be his day alone...

The next number to be retired should be No. 57 and it should be his day alone...

Following that, the next number to be retired should be No. 7 and it should be his day alone...

Then in seven years, we can retire No. 9 and it should be his day alone

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I'm not a huge fan of retiring numbers but I like when you have to earn the right to wear a certain number.

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Retiring numbers is ghey.

Besides, the NFL stopped allowing numbers to be retired because you can run out of numbers at a certain position.

Its just a stinking number guys.

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nope, Danno. Some numbers are sacred. Like 714.

I can see, since there are only so many 2-digit numbers why you cant retire
them. But I dont think anyone should get 57 for a good long time on our team.
Maybe allow one # to be retired per team, and ours would be #8.

The Cowboys did a pretty smart thing with that Ring of Honor. That way they didnt have to retire all those numbers, but they had, if you remember, retired Drew Pearson's #88, until Michael Irvin came along, and Pearson said it was ok for him to wear it. Then Irvin, of course embarrassed the Cowboys, Pearson's number, and the whole NFL with his coke & "self employed models" birthday party. Im not judgy, and certainly cant hate someone for making a mistake, but it was Irvin's behavior in court and the media afterwards that I found so offputting. But thats another thread.

Joe Boudreaux, or Hawthorne, of whoever, should not be wearing Ricky's number. Unless he's Lawrence Taylor. (on the field) Someone on the team should tell him and help him understand. I can understand totally, if he doesnt understand now, but someone on the team should gather some video, memorabilia, etc, and explain it. I'll bet he'd get it.

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Nope, I disagree. Its hero worship gone too far. Maybe we should ban the name Jackson, Mills, Roaf, Manning and Brees from being printed on the back of player jerseys?

Maybe we should ban the 3-4 defense since we were one of the best ever?

This jersey number idolizing is a bunch of crap. Hang the dude's Jersey and name on the dome wall and be done with it. As much as we all hate the Cowboys the ring of honor idea is pretty good.

You don't retire #57 without retiring #8, or #51, or #26, #77, #46, #19, #56, and #7.

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It could certainly creat a dilemma after years of great players.

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The banners in the south end zone corner should take the place of retiring the actual number on the uniform.

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It's not hero worship - it's the holding up an example of "This is How It's Done"...

And we haven't had too many in this league or country for that matter who do it...

But when you look at what Archie did and gave up for his community, you retire that number and you set an example to current players that this is the bar, the standard with which we measure greatness for New Orleans Saints...

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You hang a banner from the rafters with the name and number and years he played on it, and it says the same exact thing, This Is How It's Done. It's actually better recognition for the player because people SEE it, it's a permanent visual reminder, every game, instead of them sitting there watching the games and not really noticing or thinking about it, that there isn't a particular number ever on the field. I mean, I don't sit around thinking about #17 as being Billy Kilmer, it's Meachem. Or was. I don't care who else had it and what they did. And then it will belong to someone else eventually, after that.



I mean a banner, or the thing like some teams do with the names around the edge of the stadium, if you're that player you can go the games as an old man and freaking point at it, show it to your kids and say, "that was me," and feel pride, it really means something, the NAME lives on, the man lives on. A retired number is only good for, people who already know it's retired, which in these days is just a handful of misty-eyed nostalgic fans who are the only ones who give a crap about it.

The BANNER is the way to go with this. Trust me.

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:cheers:

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I don't recall Colby Bockwoldt being that good. Certainly not good enough to consider retiring his number.

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If my memory is correct, aren't there banners for Eddie Robinson, Pistol Pete, Archie and Rickey hanging near the championship banners in the dome?

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Yes there are. hanging right over my head.

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Problem solved, just keep making those and hang them up in the dome

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Maybe he wanted to wear that number because of the history behind it and the men that have carried it before him?! Who knows, maybe Jackson was/is Hawthorne's idol, and wearing "his" number could be him paying homage to him?!

Anyway, I don't think retiring numbers is something that should be done in the NFL, since you can run out of numbers fairly quickly if you do that with any type of regularity. It works for hockey, but not for a sport with 53 men teams.

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Seasquawks Ring of Honor does not honor the number, but the individual and his impact, not only on the field but in the organization. Therefore the # is irrelevant. Not a big fan of retiring #'s in football, but would be in favor of the above mentioned in some form or another.

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lmao whats wrong with 714

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Also, let's not forget that unfurling a banner right before the game will absolutely make the crowd like 2000% louder than just announcing a certain player's number is retired over the PA. Something about dropping a banner just really gets to people emotionally. Compare the crowd reaction to a divisional or championship banner drop --people go ape for it - to when they announce people into the Saints Hall of Fame --they only get a smattering of applause.