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spkb25 08-31-2004 08:33 AM

haslett said in trade talks
 
an article on www.nola.com/saints about three cb's hurt has said that haslett said he is in trade talks around the league but refuse to elaborate. maybe we can still get a corner

JOESAM2002 08-31-2004 10:16 AM

haslett said in trade talks
 
SPKB25, Please post the link to your information. I read that article and didn\'t see where he was in trade talks. Although at my age I might be wrong.

BlackandBlue 08-31-2004 10:31 AM

haslett said in trade talks
 
You\'re not wrong, Joe, cause I couldn\'t find it either.

pakowitz 08-31-2004 10:35 AM

haslett said in trade talks
 
i looked as well and couldnt find anything.....

qball316 08-31-2004 10:44 AM

haslett said in trade talks
 
All i found was something in the message board about. Someone evidently read it in the Times Picayune.

BlackandBlue 08-31-2004 10:50 AM

haslett said in trade talks
 
This is why links are a good thing.

saintfanatic 08-31-2004 11:20 AM

haslett said in trade talks
 
http://www.nola.com/saints/t-p/index...1742321780.xml

Try this one - I saw the same quote in TP in an article titled \"Three DB\'s questionable for Miami game\"
It is near the bottm and is an aside to the article.

spkb25 08-31-2004 11:56 AM

haslett said in trade talks
 
sorry guys. but glad u found it. yes it was an aside from the article but it was still interesting to note n made me think he is looking for someone possibly.

Danno 08-31-2004 12:01 PM

haslett said in trade talks
 
Well, I wonder who it might be we\'re dangling. It certainly wouldn\'t be fringe type player (Black, Gardner, Kendrick Allen) because we wouldn\'t get much in return.

I would assume we\'re trying to land a veteran LB or CB. Especially after the suspensions of Hodge and Craver. Unfortunately in order to land a solid player (LB/CB) you have to trade a solid player.

Here are my prime candidates in order of highest value, assuming we\'re aren\'t trading a future pick...

JT O\'sullivan (I\'d hate it but we\'d probably get a real solid player in return)
Jerome Pathon (With Henderson, Lewis, Gardner and Black, he\'s somewhat tradable)
Zack Hilton (I hope not but I think he\'d help us land a solid LB or DB)
Lamar Smith (I think Miami may have already inquired, but he won\'t bring much in return)
Michael Lewis (I\'d hate this, but he\'d be attractive to a lot of teams. With Henderson, Pathon, Stecker, Stallworth etc we have the return game in good shape)
Ki-Jana Carter (Won\'t bring much in return, but sure looked pretty good of late)

spkb25 08-31-2004 12:08 PM

haslett said in trade talks
 
thats the same thing i was wondering danno. but i was thinking what if we were offering a draft pick 2nd or third round n a player. might land something alittle better then. do we have any rounds next year with more then one pick. like 2nd or third. i cant remember off hand

BlackandBlue 08-31-2004 12:09 PM

haslett said in trade talks
 
We have two 2nd rounders, but I would prefer not trading those away.

spkb25 08-31-2004 12:14 PM

haslett said in trade talks
 
well me too but if we could trade one n a plyer for some strong help at corner or lb or might not mind as much. but just one not both in any case. i wouldnt trade pathon only because he has looked great. as the third wo. he will have plenty of chances to get the ball if we can get it to him. i dont think any of our other wo r ready to take over yet

Danno 08-31-2004 12:18 PM

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I forgot to mention we also may have to cut a quality O-lineman. Or at the least can afford to let one go.

I believe there are several teams that have recently been decimated along the offensive line. Giants, Rams, Chargers and Panthers come to mind but I imagine they\'d want to trade to an AFC team.

Isn\'t San Diego loaded with quality CB\'s?

spkb25 08-31-2004 12:26 PM

haslett said in trade talks
 
yeah they have jammer who isnt going anywhere and davis is decent there. they picked up someone in the trade for boston from miami also. hey i cant imagine anything worse then ambrose. plus craft might be hurt more then we think. so we need some help there. yes ur right about our line. that would be a good option for us

BrooksMustGo 08-31-2004 12:39 PM

haslett said in trade talks
 
Quote:

We have two 2nd rounders, but I would prefer not trading those away.
BnB is right, the new head coach is going to want those picks. I\'d rather not hamstring the guy before he gets here.

BlackandBlue 08-31-2004 12:56 PM

haslett said in trade talks
 
Quote:

BnB is right, the new head coach is going to want those picks. I\'d rather not hamstring the guy before he gets here.
HAHAHAHAHA!

Puddinhead 08-31-2004 12:59 PM

haslett said in trade talks
 
Quote:

Here are my prime candidates in order of highest value, assuming we\'re aren\'t trading a future pick...

JT O\'sullivan (I\'d hate it but we\'d probably get a real solid player in return)
Jerome Pathon (With Henderson, Lewis, Gardner and Black, he\'s somewhat tradable)
Zack Hilton (I hope not but I think he\'d help us land a solid LB or DB)
Lamar Smith (I think Miami may have already inquired, but he won\'t bring much in return)
Michael Lewis (I\'d hate this, but he\'d be attractive to a lot of teams. With Henderson, Pathon, Stecker, Stallworth etc we have the return game in good shape)
Ki-Jana Carter (Won\'t bring much in return, but sure looked pretty good of late)
Just my opinion, but the only one on this list I see possibly bringing a \"starter-quality\" LB or CB in return would be Pathon. O\'Sullivan and Hilton (I think) both have yet to play their first real NFL game. Smith and Carter are struggling to hang onto to job here as the third-string RB--what makes anyone think either would draw a starter at another position in return? And Michael Lewis is a 33-year-old who was slightly above average returning kicks last season while being a fourth or fifth option at WR.

The Saints will not acquire a starter at either LB or CB (unless you count a guy who wouldn\'t start on any other team who we just thrust in there) unless they part with a higher profile player than these guys, or package Pathon with a high draft choice.

BrooksMustGo 08-31-2004 01:21 PM

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Howard or Horn are the only guys it even makes a little sense to deal that would land us a starting quality player in return.

no_cloning 08-31-2004 01:57 PM

haslett said in trade talks
 
With two 2nd rounders I wouldn\'t mind trading one away. The draft is always a gamble.
On the other hand you won\'t get a quality starter for a 2nd rounder. But you might get an average CB which certainly is an upgrade over Ambrose and would immediately make this team better.

I\'m still optimistic about the upcoming season, so why not spend some of the money the Saints still have under the cap?
Can\'t see a player-for-player deal happening.

Danno 08-31-2004 01:58 PM

haslett said in trade talks
 
I disagree. A team may have a veteran who they feel is way overpaid, and in the last year or two of the deal and may be gone next year anyway. Why not get something for the guy before he leaves via free-agency or cap casualty. Especially if you have a hotshot youngster coming up to replace him.

Hilton and O\'Sullivan are attractive prospects, especially to cap strapped teams with too many overpaid vets.


spkb25 08-31-2004 02:20 PM

haslett said in trade talks
 
well danno i get ur point n wouldnt ten to disagree. nut i would like to keep our d-line together for this year only because of its depth. but i see what ur saying regarding howard. but i still wouldnt mind getting an upgrade to ambrose for a second round. depending on that players age n length of contract he currently has. it all depends on certain factors. i think though with craver gone n craft hurt who knows how long ur almost forced to make a move

CheramieIII 08-31-2004 03:58 PM

haslett said in trade talks
 
As I said before I truly believe we are trying to trade Smith to the Dolphins for a CB or LB. I also believe we will do this before the next cuts, because Carter will be the 3rd RB and Smith would be out anyway, so we would at least get something for nothing.

saintfan 08-31-2004 04:42 PM

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Quote:

On the other hand you won\'t get a quality starter for a 2nd rounder.
Isn\'t that what the Patriots gave the Ben-gals for their Hot Shot RB?


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