Ed Reed to the Saints?

RaginCajun83 · 02-04-2013, 09:27 PM

Make it happen Loomis, worked out just fine the last time he brought in a safety at the end of their career lets try it again

burningmetal · 02-04-2013, 09:44 PM

It makes absolutely perfect sense. Except that we have no money... I could see him taking a slight discount, but he's not going to play for free. Still have to lock up Graham aswell, so whatever money we manage to free up is going to be used on his long term deal. The defense is going to have to be rebuilt with young, inexpensive guys.

saintsfan403 · 02-04-2013, 10:16 PM

Originally Posted by TreyThomas

Maybe to end up in the same place the last one, Darren Sharper, helped take us to?

1-We didn't make it to the Super Bowl because of Darren Sharper.
2-He stepped into a substantially better situation. We actually had probowl defensive players back then and didn't finish last in almost every relevant category
3-with precious little cap room available, wasting all of our money on an aging safety, who's not gonna be able to single handedly turn our defence around in one season, is the worst management move i can imagine. Spend that money on improving the d-line.

st thomas · 02-04-2013, 10:33 PM

Originally Posted by saintsfan403

No, he's good but he's a hundred years old. Why would we want to get another old, expensive safety at the end of his career?

Reed was suppose to retire when sharper got here in 2008. He just can.t stay healthy we have plenty of those. I meen i like the guy had unbelievable carreer. But i would pass.jmo

QBREES9 · 02-04-2013, 11:09 PM

I bet he stays a Raven

TreyThomas · 02-04-2013, 11:38 PM

Originally Posted by saintsfan403

1-We didn't make it to the Super Bowl because of Darren Sharper.
2-He stepped into a substantially better situation. We actually had probowl defensive players back then and didn't finish last in almost every relevant category
3-with precious little cap room available, wasting all of our money on an aging safety, who's not gonna be able to single handedly turn our defence around in one season, is the worst management move i can imagine. Spend that money on improving the d-line.

1. I never said we won the super bowl because of Darren Sharper. Read twice before typing, thanks.

2. Substantially better defense? Basically the same players, but younger. Still had little to no talent at DB. Still had Will Smith, and no pressure from the D-Line.
We blitzed the hell out of everyone. Oh, almost forgot about someone! You must be talking about Charles Grant?? Yeah, substantially better, for sure.

3. I agree, we have more pressing needs, but Harper and Jenkins both graded out at the worst at their positions. Does this mean they are the worst?
No. But a leader can bring alot to a defense. Look at the drop-off in turnovers after Sharper left. We're missing that ballhawk, and if you can't see that you're freakin' blind.

saintsfan403 · 02-05-2013, 12:51 AM

Originally Posted by TreyThomas

1. I never said we won the super bowl because of Darren Sharper. Read twice before typing, thanks.

2. Substantially better defense? Basically the same players, but younger. Still had little to no talent at DB. Still had Will Smith, and no pressure from the D-Line.
We blitzed the hell out of everyone. Oh, almost forgot about someone! You must be talking about Charles Grant?? Yeah, substantially better, for sure.

3. I agree, we have more pressing needs, but Harper and Jenkins both graded out at the worst at their positions. Does this mean they are the worst?
No. But a leader can bring alot to a defense. Look at the drop-off in turnovers after Sharper left. We're missing that ballhawk, and if you can't see that you're freakin' blind.

I had originally typed out a lengthy response about how we need a pass rush to help our DB's from getting picked apart etc, etc, but then I remembered there is a fantastic video of Sharper at 35 (same age as Reed) following his Super Bowl run...

Put The Team on My Back (Darren Sharper Hold My Dick) - YouTube

For the record, I'm not saying Reed isn't an improvement or that he is a bad player, I'm just saying he isn't the answer and it would be a waste of his time and our money.

lsutigerfan · 02-05-2013, 02:36 AM

He could mentor a guy like Rambo or some young safety and at the same time play a good safety position for a year or two. Why not?

FinSaint · 02-05-2013, 03:37 AM

Originally Posted by lsutigerfan

He could mentor a guy like Rambo or some young safety and at the same time play a good safety position for a year or two. Why not?

I agree, but it would need to be accompanied with the trade or release of Harper and the move of Jenkins to another position.

But if it could be done in a way that was affordable and if he fits into what the next DC is looking to do with the defense... why not.

Budsdrinker · 02-05-2013, 08:31 AM

Originally Posted by saintsfan403

I had originally typed out a lengthy response about how we need a pass rush to help our DB's from getting picked apart etc, etc, but then I remembered there is a fantastic video of Sharper at 35 (same age as Reed) following his Super Bowl run...

Put The Team on My Back (Darren Sharper Hold My Dick) - YouTube

For the record, I'm not saying Reed isn't an improvement or that he is a bad player, I'm just saying he isn't the answer and it would be a waste of his time and our money.

In Sharper's defense, he had surgery that year and missed almost half of the season and wasn't healthy. And yes I do believe Sharper was a reason we made it to the superbowl. INT vs Jets on the goaline in a game that could have gone either way. The comeback in Miami with the second half int for TD. That's 2 games that without Sharper we could have lost which would have resulted in us not having home field throughout the playoffs. Now with that said I don't think we have a chance getting Reed because if he is not a Raven next year I think the Pats will sign him.

02-04-2013, 09:27 PM	#11
RaginCajun83 Hou Saints Fan Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Houston, Tx Posts: 5,050	Re: Ed Reed to the Saints? Make it happen Loomis, worked out just fine the last time he brought in a safety at the end of their career lets try it again

02-04-2013, 09:44 PM	#12
burningmetal 1000 Posts + Join Date: Mar 2012 Posts: 3,923 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Ed Reed to the Saints? It makes absolutely perfect sense. Except that we have no money... I could see him taking a slight discount, but he's not going to play for free. Still have to lock up Graham aswell, so whatever money we manage to free up is going to be used on his long term deal. The defense is going to have to be rebuilt with young, inexpensive guys.

02-04-2013, 10:16 PM	#13
saintsfan403 1000 Posts + Join Date: Sep 2012 Location: WHO DAT NATION Posts: 2,261	Re: Ed Reed to the Saints? Originally Posted by TreyThomas Maybe to end up in the same place the last one, Darren Sharper, helped take us to? 1-We didn't make it to the Super Bowl because of Darren Sharper. 2-He stepped into a substantially better situation. We actually had probowl defensive players back then and didn't finish last in almost every relevant category 3-with precious little cap room available, wasting all of our money on an aging safety, who's not gonna be able to single handedly turn our defence around in one season, is the worst management move i can imagine. Spend that money on improving the d-line.

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st thomas Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: lafayette Posts: 7,753	Re: Ed Reed to the Saints? Originally Posted by saintsfan403 No, he's good but he's a hundred years old. Why would we want to get another old, expensive safety at the end of his career? Reed was suppose to retire when sharper got here in 2008. He just can.t stay healthy we have plenty of those. I meen i like the guy had unbelievable carreer. But i would pass.jmo Crusader and saintsfan403 like this.

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02-04-2013, 11:38 PM	#16
TreyThomas Registered Join Date: Jul 2011 Posts: 82	Re: Ed Reed to the Saints? Originally Posted by saintsfan403 1-We didn't make it to the Super Bowl because of Darren Sharper. 2-He stepped into a substantially better situation. We actually had probowl defensive players back then and didn't finish last in almost every relevant category 3-with precious little cap room available, wasting all of our money on an aging safety, who's not gonna be able to single handedly turn our defence around in one season, is the worst management move i can imagine. Spend that money on improving the d-line. 1. I never said we won the super bowl because of Darren Sharper. Read twice before typing, thanks. 2. Substantially better defense? Basically the same players, but younger. Still had little to no talent at DB. Still had Will Smith, and no pressure from the D-Line. We blitzed the hell out of everyone. Oh, almost forgot about someone! You must be talking about Charles Grant?? Yeah, substantially better, for sure. 3. I agree, we have more pressing needs, but Harper and Jenkins both graded out at the worst at their positions. Does this mean they are the worst? No. But a leader can bring alot to a defense. Look at the drop-off in turnovers after Sharper left. We're missing that ballhawk, and if you can't see that you're freakin' blind.
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02-05-2013, 02:36 AM	#18
lsutigerfan 500th Post Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: born And raised in NOLA, now live in Los Angeles Posts: 811	Re: Ed Reed to the Saints? He could mentor a guy like Rambo or some young safety and at the same time play a good safety position for a year or two. Why not? FinSaint likes this.

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FinSaint Site Donor 2015 Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Finland... formerly Southern Virginia Posts: 4,964	Re: Ed Reed to the Saints? Originally Posted by lsutigerfan He could mentor a guy like Rambo or some young safety and at the same time play a good safety position for a year or two. Why not? I agree, but it would need to be accompanied with the trade or release of Harper and the move of Jenkins to another position. But if it could be done in a way that was affordable and if he fits into what the next DC is looking to do with the defense... why not.

02-05-2013, 08:31 AM	#20
Budsdrinker A Cajun Transforming TX Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: The Woodlands, Texas Posts: 2,787	Re: Ed Reed to the Saints? Originally Posted by saintsfan403 I had originally typed out a lengthy response about how we need a pass rush to help our DB's from getting picked apart etc, etc, but then I remembered there is a fantastic video of Sharper at 35 (same age as Reed) following his Super Bowl run... Put The Team on My Back (Darren Sharper Hold My Dick) - YouTube For the record, I'm not saying Reed isn't an improvement or that he is a bad player, I'm just saying he isn't the answer and it would be a waste of his time and our money. In Sharper's defense, he had surgery that year and missed almost half of the season and wasn't healthy. And yes I do believe Sharper was a reason we made it to the superbowl. INT vs Jets on the goaline in a game that could have gone either way. The comeback in Miami with the second half int for TD. That's 2 games that without Sharper we could have lost which would have resulted in us not having home field throughout the playoffs. Now with that said I don't think we have a chance getting Reed because if he is not a Raven next year I think the Pats will sign him.

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