Saints Cap Breakdown
 

As Saints General Manager Mickey Loomis and coach Sean Payton take stock in their roster and how money is allocated in relation to the salary cap, some things pop into mind that might be of interest to the general fan.
Once March 12 arrives, the NFL goes to a Top 51 accounting for salary cap. The top 51 salary cap numbers on each roster regardless of how many players are signed count against the cap, which is expected to be roughly $121.1 million in 2013.
For the Saints, No. 1 is Drew Brees ($17.4 million) and No. 51 is one of eight players with a $405,000 cap number. Including a $2.7 million adjustment, the Saints are still roughly $16.9 million over the expected cap as of Feb. 19.
In New Orleans’ Top 51, 25 offensive players, 24 defensive spots and two kickers are included. The offense and defense is nearly split evenly, with the offense accounting for 47 percent and the defense 49 percent of the Saints’ $135.9 million allocated towards the cap right now. That includes a $2.7 million adjustment in New Orleans' favor.

Saints have work to do to get under expected NFL salary cap in time | wwltv.com New Orleans

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Regardless, the Saints have to be at or below the ceiling by March 12 at 3 p.m. New Orleans time.

Loomis, and Payton, have their work cut out, especially since there are free agents that will have to be accounted for and eventually draft picks and rookies.

this was the key thing i saw in the report. show time is right around the corner

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17 million over and we don't have a LT, or Center, and we have Jimmy Graham to deal with next year.

Thats why you don't give a 4th string injury prone fumble machine like Chris Ivory 2 million per year.

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... among others...

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Oh Boy, here we go.

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To make matters worse, we are in the top 5 worst teams in the league percentage wise for cap money tied up in signing bonuses. We are living on credit and it's going to catch up to us. We could probably free up half of what we need by turning contract money on guys like Grubbs and Evans into signing bonus cash right now by restructuring as well but it is making matters worse for 2014 and 2015. We may need to bite the bullet and make guys take pay cuts or replace them with cheaper alternatives.

Same old drama machine that came out last year..... It's fixable.

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You think other teams don't have the same problem?

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I like having the stable of running backs we have but tbh somebody can use Ivory...
We can get something for him vs nothing.

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Only 9 teams are over the cap.

8 teams are under the cap by 20 million already

Half the league is at least 10 million under the cap.

Tampa is currently sitting at 31 million under the cap. Wow.

Team Cap Space (Millions)
NY Jets -19.4
Dallas -18.2
New Orleans-14.7
Carolina -11.8
Pittsburgh -10.8
NY Giants -4.7
Oakland -4.5
Washington -4
Detroit -1.1
Arizona -0.72
St. Louis 1.8
San Fran 3.9
Atlanta 4.9
Philadelphia 5.2
Green Bay 7.1
San Diego 8.7
Houston 12.9
Chicago 13.3
Baltimore 15.7
Kansas City 16.1
Minnesota 16.1
Denver 18.5
New England 18.6
Seattle 18.6
Tennessee 19.4
Buffalo 20.6
Jacksonville 22.1
Tampa Bay 31.3
Miami 35.8
Indianapolis 46
Cleveland 48.9
Cincinnati 55.1

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we fell into the "Super Bowl" wage inflation trap. Just because the team won a Super Bowl doesn't mean everyone's an all-pro. You look at New England, and they are nearly 20 mill under the cap every year and they attract the best talent and never over pay. Loomis may not be the genius everyone says he is if he constantly overpays for overrated players.

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Btw: we're currently 14 million over the cap, and we still haven't re-signed theses guys listed below.

Signing any of them will add to that 14 million...

OT Jermon Bushrod UFA
QB Chase Daniel RFA
OC Brian De La Puente RFA
WR Devery Henderson UFA
RB Chris Ivory RFA
OT William Robinson UFA
WR Courtney Roby UFA

DT Sedrick Ellis UFA
DE Junior Galette RFA
CB Nick Hixon RFA
LB Ramon Humber UFA
CB Elbert Mack UFA
DE Turk McBride UFA
DE Swanson Miller UFA
LB Scott Shanle UFA

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I only need dlp, Ivory, Junior, Mack, and McBride out of that list. And Ivory might be in for a trade.

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Who's gonna play LT?

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I'll do it...

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You're probably all we can afford.

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And it will be different teams next season. Ok so some historically more and less than others.

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Of course they do. But:
1. Not many at all. We have one of the worst situations
2. We have serious issues. Like we can only play one side of the ball which fundamentally means the Saints aint all that, Brees or no Brees.
3. I don't give a damn about the other teams. Except, except, Tampa Bay,
Miami, Indianapolis, Cleveland and Cincinnati who could really mess with every other teams by offering a couple of key players "silly" money.

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14 million over the cap but let's see what free agents we can sign?

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I know Drew is taking the beating.. Not my point here... I am just shocked at the amount of extremely overpaid players we have..

Smith - 14.5m (Dead money 6.7m)
Vilma - 8.6 m (dead money 2.6m)

If we cut them we free up 13.8 million in cap


Surely with 13.8 we can do a whole hell of a lot better than Smith and Vilma for less?

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Don't Teams have to spend a minimum% of the cap I think it is 80% or more.

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and?