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dizzle88 02-23-2013 02:52 PM

Re: Jimmy Graham Could Be Targeting As Much As $12 Annually In His Next Contract
 
Every time he dropped a pass the replay showed he was taking his eyes off the ball and looking upfield before he actually made the catch - thats just bad technique and SP will fix that

Every good WR will tell you, you catch the ball with your eyes first by watching the ball into your hands

TheOak 02-23-2013 04:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Seer1 (Post 481572)
He has a lot to prove this coming season. Was it his wrist problem that caused all the drops? More importantly right now, will this thread last through the entire year or will a new one start after next season?

I foresee at least 6/8more articles about Graham's contract in the next 12 months.... This yielding 6/8 more threads that we will all say the same things in. :-)

TheOak 02-23-2013 04:45 PM

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Originally Posted by dizzle88 (Post 481574)
Every time he dropped a pass the replay showed he was taking his eyes off the ball and looking upfield before he actually made the catch - thats just bad technique and SP will fix that

Every good WR will tell you, you catch the ball with your eyes first by watching the ball into your hands

People were blaming someone for throwing to him in tight coverage.... Maybe so but the point is moot.

Most good/receivers will tell you the same thing about that type of pass.....

"May as well catch it, your getting hit anyway".

dizzle88 02-23-2013 04:48 PM

Re: Jimmy Graham Could Be Targeting As Much As $12 Annually In His Next Contract
 
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Originally Posted by TheOak (Post 481590)
People were blaming someone for throwing to him in tight coverage.... Maybe so but the point is moot.

Most good/receivers will tell you the same thing about that type of pass.....

"May as well catch it, your getting hit anyway".

Thats what my coach always tells the WR's, the DB's dont get many chances so when they can hit you they will lol

Like you said, your going to get hit either way just catch it lol

spkb25 02-23-2013 05:15 PM

Re: Jimmy Graham Could Be Targeting As Much As $12 Annually In His Next Contract
 
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Originally Posted by TheOak (Post 481564)
Not being #1 in drops.

he had some drops no doubt, but from what i remember the whole damn offensive side of the ball had the problem. the guy had more than 80 catches, over 900 yards and 9 td's. that's outstanding. Even more unbelievable considering the drops. Amazing, really.

spkb25 02-23-2013 05:28 PM

Re: Jimmy Graham Could Be Targeting As Much As $12 Annually In His Next Contract
 
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Originally Posted by Seer1 (Post 481572)
He has a lot to prove this coming season.

I mean this in the kindest of ways- some of you are either being insincere or you have lost your frigan minds. The guys is the best TE we have ever had. I don't think we have ever had a TE put up the type of numbers this guy has the last 2 years. He is one of the best in the league at his position. Man we are a spoiled frigan bunch. Holy lord. Maybe we can go back to 10 game 40 catch Shockey. And who did we have before shockey...??? Crickets are chirping because I can't even name the GD TE before Shock. JG is a nightmare to game plan around and he plays with an attitude. He had some drops, no doubt. Many were drops he should have never had- Colston did too. I think there were so many drops last year that we were all calling for a new WR's coach.

99 catches 1310 yds 11td's
85 catches 982 yds 9 td's

I am sorry I just don't see what that bad ass has left to prove

jnormand 02-23-2013 06:14 PM

Re: Jimmy Graham Could Be Targeting As Much As $12 Annually In His Next Contract
 
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Originally Posted by spkb25 (Post 481595)
I mean this in the kindest of ways- some of you are either being insincere or you have lost your frigan minds. The guys is the best TE we have ever had. I don't think we have ever had a TE put up the type of numbers this guy has the last 2 years. He is one of the best in the league at his position. Man we are a spoiled frigan bunch. Holy lord. Maybe we can go back to 10 game 40 catch Shockey. And who did we have before shockey...??? Crickets are chirping because I can't even name the GD TE before Shock. JG is a nightmare to game plan around and he plays with an attitude. He had some drops, no doubt. Many were drops he should have never had- Colston did too. I think there were so many drops last year that we were all calling for a new WR's coach.

99 catches 1310 yds 11td's
85 catches 982 yds 9 td's

I am sorry I just don't see what that bad ass has left to prove


I agree. But remember Billy Miller?! Cmon!! WTF happened to him? Let's see....before that we had Boo Williams....he was great for a season or two...I remember the days of Hoby Brenner and John Tice...anyone remember those guys?

xan 02-23-2013 06:55 PM

Re: Jimmy Graham Could Be Targeting As Much As $12 Annually In His Next Contract
 
Just go to any d1 hoops program and offer a contract to any player not projected in the top 60. Thats somewhere around 300 eligible players

TheOak 02-23-2013 08:06 PM

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Originally Posted by spkb25 (Post 481595)
I mean this in the kindest of ways- some of you are either being insincere or you have lost your frigan minds. The guys is the best TE we have ever had. I don't think we have ever had a TE put up the type of numbers this guy has the last 2 years. He is one of the best in the league at his position. Man we are a spoiled frigan bunch. Holy lord. Maybe we can go back to 10 game 40 catch Shockey. And who did we have before shockey...??? Crickets are chirping because I can't even name the GD TE before Shock. JG is a nightmare to game plan around and he plays with an attitude. He had some drops, no doubt. Many were drops he should have never had- Colston did too. I think there were so many drops last year that we were all calling for a new WR's coach.

99 catches 1310 yds 11td's
85 catches 982 yds 9 td's

I am sorry I just don't see what that bad ass has left to prove

Those are cumulative stats, not performance. It's the same if drew completed 50 passes per game but had to throw 100 to do it, thats only a 50% completion rate. Jimmy is Drews go to man, and Drew throws a lot. Last year Drew threw 670 passes thats more than he has ever thrown in a regular season. As a matter of stats only Stafford threw more attempts. You seem to be misunderstanding my point. In order to be worth 12mm he needs to be clutch more than one season. Being the league drop leader means he is no where clutch.

When the game is on the line do you want to throw to a receiver with 1000 yards or one with a 1% drop rate?

Rugby Saint II 02-23-2013 10:46 PM

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This salary cap is giving me a head ache...............ow!

Seer1 02-24-2013 11:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Rugby Saint II (Post 481631)
This salary cap is giving me a head ache...............ow!

Imagine what it's doing to Payton and Loomis.

AllSaints 02-24-2013 12:54 PM

Re: Jimmy Graham Could Be Targeting As Much As $12 Annually In His Next Contract
 
Geez yeah why does jimmy drop the ball why isn't he perfect n catch it every time he is thrown to n Bree's come on man why. Throw pics why aren't u perfect........ We should just get rid of them n find a guy who never drops the ball n a qb that never throws ints..... Oh wait There is no one like that !!! Nobody's perfect....

TheOak 02-24-2013 01:02 PM

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Originally Posted by AllSaints (Post 481711)
Geez yeah why does jimmy drop the ball why isn't he perfect n catch it every time he is thrown to n Bree's come on man why. Throw pics why aren't u perfect........ We should just get rid of them n find a guy who never drops the ball n a qb that never throws ints..... Oh wait There is no one like that !!! Nobody's perfect....

Large difference between dropping the most and never dropping.

vpheughan 02-24-2013 04:03 PM

Re: Jimmy Graham Could Be Targeting As Much As $12 Annually In His Next Contract
 
Not to mention all the upcoming Polls!

saintsfan403 02-24-2013 05:07 PM

Re: Jimmy Graham Could Be Targeting As Much As $12 Annually In His Next Contract
 
this article means nothing, lets see how he plays next season before we start talking about how much he's gonna go for next year...

spkb25 02-24-2013 09:18 PM

Re: Jimmy Graham Could Be Targeting As Much As $12 Annually In His Next Contract
 
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Originally Posted by TheOak (Post 481620)
Those are cumulative stats, not performance. It's the same if drew completed 50 passes per game but had to throw 100 to do it, thats only a 50% completion rate. Jimmy is Drews go to man, and Drew throws a lot. Last year Drew threw 670 passes thats more than he has ever thrown in a regular season. As a matter of stats only Stafford threw more attempts. You seem to be misunderstanding my point. In order to be worth 12mm he needs to be clutch more than one season. Being the league drop leader means he is no where clutch.

When the game is on the line do you want to throw to a receiver with 1000 yards or one with a 1% drop rate?

Drew's go to guy is Colston, hence his near 1200 yards last year.

Gram has caught 66% and 63% of the balls when targeted the last two seasons.

I am sorry, catches, yards, and TD's are a reflection of his performance.. That's exactly how you measure his production/performance


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