John Abraham may visit Saints
 

Former Falcons defensive end John Abraham currently is touring a couple of West Coast teams, the Seahawks and the 49ers.

Next, Abraham will head in the opposition direction. The potential destinations include either the Titans or the Saints.


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My opinion, major upgrade over Will Smith. Didn't he play 3-4 with the Jets?

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Id prefer to go with younger players, unless we get him for vet minimum and release will smith

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I'm not to sure on this one. Wasn't he dropped by the failcons? I team that should be a major hazard sign, plus he will want a big contract, and I doubt we could afford it.

For what we would pay for him, I'd rather bring in Dashon Goldson, and Ed Reed.

We don't need an overhyped defensive player. We need a hungry one, who is ready to show what he can do.

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HORRIBLE Idea!!!
He was brought in specifically to rush Drew Brees and he failed...
Always hurt didn't play much. Bigger bust than Ingram...
I don't want this guy

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pass

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No thanks! I don't even see a reason why we would bring him in for a visit. Not a fit for our new 3-4 and old as hell... Even if he brought secret Falcons information with him I wouldn't want to waste the cap space.

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I'll bet Bushrod blocks him from visiting.

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Health concerns, seems to have lost a step and getting long in the tooth = not interested.

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yee hawwww rounding up the old dogs to rebuild our defensive retirement home again? I hope not we just started getting young bucks in the pens.

league min 1 year playing time and performance based contract. ONLY

he aint what he use to be.

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Man you're in a great mood today!

You're exactly right, we need youth and stamina for four quarters, plus...

And he's a one trick pony defensive end which is slightly better than Will Smith who just kinda stretches and lays there...

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Wow, couldn't be a guy I was less interested in. He is done when it comes to the game and he's probably one of the most incoherent individuals I've ever heard.

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If he's lost a step, yet still recorded 10 sacks like he did last year, I say give him a nice little 2 year deal. l guess nobody remembers him being the only player terrorizing Brees on the Falcons D the past several years.

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I don't remember that at all. We've handled him OK for the last several years.

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He's 35 and battled injuries practically all season long this past year - and you want to give him a 2-year contract?!

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Also remember....Falcons played one of, if not the, easiest schedule in the NFL last season....I wouldn't put much stock in those sacks. ANd he's HORRIBLE against the read option. He's old and injury prone.....no thanks.

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He's just stopping by for some gumbo and a Sazerac cocktail or two. He'll be dirty bird'n it home in time for dinner.

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why not? We signed Darren Sharper when he was that age. If he's not better then what we've already got you're fooling yourself. It doesn't matter if he's horrible with the option. The rest of the D is horrible at everything. Nobody is saying break the bank on him, but if he wants to come end his career with a ring I believe he's a good veteran leader and upgrade. Its 2 years. Not the 5 we just gave Drew, who is practically just as old.

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All true what im hearing. Hes old . Stays hurt, but his name always gets called more than will smith.barring he has to make the team and he takes vet min. For a season . Let it roll and thats all he would be there for is a situation player.

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Sharper and Brees aren't exactly good comparisons for Abrahams - an old player who got released in the middle of his contract.

Minnesota wanted to keep Sharper, but couldn't afford to. He was putting up good numbers for them through his contract, and would've probably continued to do so if he had re-signed with them.

Brees' situation with the Chargers is known by all of us, so there's no need to go over it again here, but I'd like to point out that he didn't have a history filled with injuries before the infamous shoulder injury, the surgery was done by the best in the business, and he passed the medicals before signing with the Saints.

From what I've gathered, Abrahams doesn't have the same type of character as Brees does when it comes to training and keeping himself in peak condition to avoid future injuries, so them being about the same age isn't really anything I'd consider as a favorable comparison to Abrahams.

Anyway, he might be a good veteran presence at vet minimum (I'm doubtful), but I'd prefer that roster spot to be filled by a young player who could be a future contributor in the black and gold.

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We don't have time to wait on future contributors. We need people to contribute now. The Saints live and die with Drew Brees. His days are numbered. Our window is short. We need people who are ready to play now. Like I said, the man had 10 sacks. Will Smith is our highest paid defensive player, he had 6...and he was actually healthy.

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And Brady is 36 and Manning is 37. Favre was 40 when he retired officially, Warner was 38. QB lives longest in this league and takes less hits than everyone else.

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I'm sorry, but that to me is just too shortsighted to my liking.

The "window" doesn't ever have to close if the franchise is smart about the moves it makes going forward - a big part of that is choosing the right free agents to sign to strengthen their roster and using the draft wisely to fill the holes left after free agency. A big part of this approach is to try and renew your player/prospect pool at a constant cycle, and that can be better done by adding younger players into the roster, who can potentially be signed below true market value while having them play their best football years with the franchise. Then see those players sign big contracts with other franchises while either receiving compensation for it or saving money by once again adding younger players into the roster with their best days still ahead of them. Now, I'm not discrediting the value of veteran players in the roster, because young players need role models from whom to learn what it takes to be a professional football player in the good sense, but I doubt a player like Abrahams is that type of a player - I'd much rather have someone like Vilma be that player.

This franchise doesn't live or die with Drew Brees, and IMO his days are certainly not numbered as you put it, but like any other player on a roster; he'll have to be replaced in the near future, but that day isn't here yet.

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Not a fan of this idea.

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People act like he's been a beast for Atlanta... he's been there what 2 years and hasn't played a full season?
Also I'm sure sure why Drew's age always comes into play.... Like anyone here knows what he has left in the tank.

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I see a lot of people pointing out the obvious. He's old... This is true, but he's still three times the player that Will Smith is. For the league minimum, you bet I'd bring him in. But that won't happen, so I'll still pass.

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I don't like to come to the defense of a Falcons player (even though he's now a former Falcon), but this is not really an accurate assessment of Abraham.

He spent not 2, but 7 years in Atlanta. The only season he missed significant time was his first year with them in '06, when he played in just 8 games with 4 sacks.

After that:
'07- 16 games, 10 sacks.
'08- 16 games, 16.5 sacks.
'09- 16 games, 5.5 sacks.
'10- 15 games, 13 sacks.
'11- 15 games, 9.5 sacks.
'12- 16 games, 10 sacks... He also had 6 forced fumbles and 7 passes defensed this past season.

If he wants to sign a 1 year deal for at, or very close to the minimum, why not? Again, I don't think he would come that cheap, so we most likely can't afford him, but no one can tell me the guy isn't way better than anything we have, even at age 34. If he were just a couple years younger I would say definitely go get him. At this stage though, he's going to play out 1 year deals until he's done.

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Too much alternative cheaper much younger and hungrier talent in this year's draft and UDFA to even remotely consider this bag of bones.

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I agree if you're talking long term. If we're talking about a 1 year stop gap, for the right price? He's a bit more than a bag of bones. It won't happen, but it's a better idea than restructuring Will Smith to play another lousy season for us. An idea which some amazingly think is actually a good one, for some reason.

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He used to be a real stud but I'm not so sure about that anymore. I want to see a youth movement.

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If Smith, Vilma and Harper are gone we need vet leadership. A one year maybe two year deal..........

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I'd rather have Harrison than Abraham and there's probably twelve others that I'd rather have than either of them.