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rmgoris11 03-21-2013 02:22 PM

Canal St. Chronicles Mock Draft 3/21/13
 
"First Round : Tavon Austin, WR/KR/PR, West Virginia

I know, I know, the Saints are rebuilding their defense, and they need all the help they can get. Yes, they do, but I can find players for that defense that can be successful in it later in the draft since the draft is loaded on that side.

Both of the Saints top receivers, Marques Colston and Lance Moore will be 30 when 2013 comes around, and the team really needs to find that dynamic slot guy who can take off to Wes Welker-esque numbers. Moore is a reliable veteran, but he doesn't add that possibility of scoring every time he touches the ball. Austin does.

Now, Saints fans will complain that Austin is too similar to Darren Sproles and will hinder Sproles' big play ability. I don't see it that way. If anything, Austin and Sproles on the field at the same time would cause defensive coordinator's heads to explode. Austin would actually take the return duties off of the veteran's hands and save him up for running back duties.

A future lineup of Joe Morgan, Nick Toon (if healthy) and Austin would be an awesome "reload" in the receiver department for Mickey and co.
Third Round: Brandon Williams, NT, Missouri Southern

I won't spend too much time on this pick because I have beaten it down repeatedly for months now. Williams is just about the only nose tackle that I would draft in this class. He also happens to be the best of the bunch. The kid is a very athletic 340+ pounder who will occupy guys long enough to allow Curtis Lofton and David Hawthorne to make more tackles.

He would join in the rotation at NT with Brodrick Bunkley. That would be a lot of strength up the middle and should shore up New Orleans' run defense.
Fourth Round: Meshak Williams, OLB, Kansas St.

Williams is a relative unknown to people outside of the "draftnik" world, but he won't be as soon as he finds a home in the NFL as a rush 3-4 OLB. Overshadowed by Arthur Brown, Williams quietly had 17.5 sacks and 25.5 tackles for loss the past two seasons in Manhattan, KS. He played defensive end in college, but the Wildcat is much more apt to standing up and rushing the passer.

He is not going to be a stalwart in the run game, but that is why you build your interior with a strong base at NT and ILB and put the playmakers on the outside. He reminds me a lot of Elvis Dumervil coming out of Louisville.
Fifth Round: Reid Fragel, OT, Ohio St.

Fragel is the poor man's version of Lane Johnson and, in my opinion, has the higher ceiling in regard to his future development. Fragel is a former tight end, just like Johnson, but was much more productive in both the pass and run protections than the first round prospect. He only has one year of starting experience at OT, but he would be the Saints LT of the future along with Marcel Jones on the right side.
Sixth Round: Cooper Taylor, S, Richmond

Taylor started off his career at Georgia Tech as a freshman starter before transferring to Richmond. He was a starter up until his sophomore year when he began losing out on playing time, hence the transfer. Taylor is a big, physical safety at 6' 4" 230 and ran a 4.45 in the 40, amongst other eye-popping stats at his Pro Day.

If Taylor would have stayed at Ga. Tech, there's no doubt in my mind that he would be a second or third round pick in the draft. Yeah, he is that good. His small school stature will hurt him, but he could be a steal as a better version of Harrison Smith, who plays for the Minnesota Vikings."

Seer1 03-21-2013 03:08 PM

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Lotta love for Williams. I have serious doubts he's going to make it through the second round.

hagan714 03-21-2013 03:39 PM

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"First Round : Tavon Austin, WR/KR/PR, West Virginia
we have kicked this one around a bit here. We all know SP loves his play toys and this would be the closest thing to Bush SP can get. Sproles would be an excellent mentor

Third Round: Brandon Williams, NT, Missouri Southern
popular pick

Fourth Round: Meshak Williams, OLB, Kansas St.
hmmm interesting i am not completely sold on this one

Fifth Round: Reid Fragel, OT, Ohio St.
well here was a pick of mine but he could go as high as the third. 33 reps long arms TE/OT convert still learning the position. if your picking a player on were they are and the hyped upside he is in the top ten my book. this is my pick in the third. I think he can challenge for the starting RT position remember he is still learning the position

Sixth Round: Cooper Taylor, S, Richmond
ok is this guy hacking my computer? left Georgia tech due to reduction in playing time. heat and heart condition is assumed the issue but he says it was not. second team all acc his sophomore year. It is assumed he believed he was right and left to play. well play he did. kid hits like a ton of bricks and has above average hands. just keep him from defending jitter bug WR. move him up a round. he should be off the board no later than the fifth. all comes down to medical tests and he had no issues the last two years


"First Round : Still not sold on one player

Third Round: Reid Fragel, OT, Ohio St.

Fourth Round: Later

Fifth Round: Cooper Taylor, S, Richmond - still waiting on a few pro days to come in to decide if this is my pick or not but he is a front runner

Sixth Round: later

Danno 03-21-2013 03:39 PM

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Originally Posted by rmgoris11 (Post 488786)
"Third Round: Brandon Williams, NT, Missouri Southern
I won't spend too much time on this pick because I have beaten it down repeatedly for months now. Williams is just about the only nose tackle that I would draft in this class. He also happens to be the best of the bunch. The kid is a very athletic 340+ pounder who will occupy guys long enough to allow Curtis Lofton and David Hawthorne to make more tackles.

He would join in the rotation at NT with Brodrick Bunkley. That would be a lot of strength up the middle and should shore up New Orleans' run defense.

Fourth Round: Meshak Williams, OLB, Kansas St.
Williams is a relative unknown to people outside of the "draftnik" world, but he won't be as soon as he finds a home in the NFL as a rush 3-4 OLB. Overshadowed by Arthur Brown, Williams quietly had 17.5 sacks and 25.5 tackles for loss the past two seasons in Manhattan, KS. He played defensive end in college, but the Wildcat is much more apt to standing up and rushing the passer.

He is not going to be a stalwart in the run game, but that is why you build your interior with a strong base at NT and ILB and put the playmakers on the outside. He reminds me a lot of Elvis Dumervil coming out of Louisville."

No way we draft two guys named Williams back to back.:)

FinSaint 03-21-2013 04:36 PM

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The Vikes are reportedly targeting Austin with one of their 1st rounders to compensate for the loss of Harvin, so maybe there'd be a possibility of a trade with them if they want him bad enough and believe that the Saints would otherwise pick him..? I doubt it personally, but who knows?

The only position from the offensive side of the ball that I'd be OK with using the 1st rounder on would be an OT, anything other than that position and I'd like to see a defensive player picked instead.

Rugby Saint II 03-21-2013 05:06 PM

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If we go WR in the first round I'm becoming a Raiders fan. :brood:

foreverfan 03-21-2013 05:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Rugby Saint II (Post 488826)
If we go WR in the first round I'm becoming a Raiders fan. :brood:

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Seer1 03-21-2013 05:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Rugby Saint II (Post 488826)
If we go WR in the first round I'm becoming a Raiders fan. :brood:

Wait at least until the end of the draft. We almost always do weird with our first pick.

QBREES9 03-21-2013 05:59 PM

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Best player if he the best palyer then yeah i can see it happening

Danno 03-21-2013 06:10 PM

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If we address a few more needs in free-agency, I wouldn't be angry with a blazing fast WR in the 1st.

He sounds like a WR version of Reggie Bush. You know Payton is licking his chops over the possibilities.

AllSaints 03-21-2013 07:09 PM

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no way we go WR...... no way.... if we do..... well ya no its better we don't talk bout it... but that would be dumb to the fullest extent ..... WORST D IN HISTORY N GO WR 1st pick... no way pal !

saintsfan1976 03-21-2013 08:22 PM

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Originally Posted by AllSaints (Post 488877)
no way we go WR...... no way.... if we do..... well ya no its better we don't talk bout it... but that would be dumb to the fullest extent ..... WORST D IN HISTORY N GO WR 1st pick... no way pal !

Like Danno pointed out - if we shore up a few more positions in FA I wouldn't hate them for going with who could be the most dynamic offensive player in this years draft.

papz 03-21-2013 08:36 PM

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A future lineup of Joe Morgan, Nick Toon (if healthy) and Austin would be an awesome "reload" in the receiver department for Mickey and co.
While I like all three players(I love Tavon Austin), if this is our future and considered an awesome reload, I think we'd be in trouble. Realistically, you may have a #3 receiver in Morgan, a 4 in Toon, and a really good slot guy with Austin. I might be generous here too.

Lots of WR's in the draft... while Austin is a fun and exciting player to have, I think we should look in a different direction.

hagan714 03-21-2013 08:46 PM

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Originally Posted by FinSaint (Post 488815)
The Vikes are reportedly targeting Austin with one of their 1st rounders to compensate for the loss of Harvin, so maybe there'd be a possibility of a trade with them if they want him bad enough and believe that the Saints would otherwise pick him..? I doubt it personally, but who knows?

The only position from the offensive side of the ball that I'd be OK with using the 1st rounder on would be an OT, anything other than that position and I'd like to see a defensive player picked instead.

pick him and sell him off to the vikes for picks

triman 03-21-2013 10:35 PM

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Brad Wing might be a available Danno

alleycat_126 03-21-2013 10:44 PM

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Originally Posted by saintsfan1976 (Post 488907)
Like Danno pointed out - if we shore up a few more positions in FA I wouldn't hate them for going with who could be the most dynamic offensive player in this years draft.

Even if we shore up a few more positions, this is the worst D in league history...... EVERY PICK Besides Terron Armstead in the third :wink: :wink: should be a defensive selection, including the one or two extra picks we get for trading down :wink: :wink:

saintsfan1976 03-22-2013 05:52 AM

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Originally Posted by alleycat_126 (Post 488947)
Even if we shore up a few more positions, this is the worst D in league history...... EVERY PICK Besides Terron Armstead in the third :wink: :wink: should be a defensive selection, including the one or two extra picks we get for trading down :wink: :wink:

WAS the worst defense... And can we throw out 2012, once and for all?

How are they already better you ask? Here are my reasons in chronological order:

Payton returns
Switch 3-4 announced (better suited)
Ryan signed
Re-signed key veterans of the Saints system (#somethingtoprove)
New CB with skills, upside
Depth coming via FA and draft

It's never a good idea to count on rookie draft picks to impact your defense.

So, let's see what unfolds before the draft. We may actually be celebrating a 1st round pick on OFFENSE :birthday:

lee909 03-22-2013 05:57 AM

I sick of reading 'worst defence ever'.
That was not the worst defence ever.The last time looked yards don't loose games,points do.
Worst defence ever 1981 Baltimore Colts

saintsfan1976 03-22-2013 05:59 AM

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2011-2012 Season *

All I've gotta say about that.

Seer1 03-22-2013 06:59 AM

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Originally Posted by lee909 (Post 488990)
I sick of reading 'worst defence ever'.
That was not the worst defence ever.The last time looked yards don't loose games,points do.
Worst defence ever 1981 Baltimore Colts

Yeah, but who cares about the Colts? For your sake let's change it to a defense that was record breaking in its badness, or a defense that received more laughs than last season's Big Bang Theory, or... Look, it's left a really bad taste in many of our mouths around here and that's the kind of thing that doesn't go away by us keeping our mouths shut.


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