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triman 03-28-2013 05:46 PM

Trade down scenarios
 
Minn.Vikings are one team interested in Tavon Austin swap #15 for #25
SAINTS pick Datone Jone DE
#52 J.Collins OLB
#75 Marcus Hunt DE
#109 Brandon Williams NT
#144 Jordan Mills OT
#183 Kwame. Geathers NT
SF 49ers also have an interest and lots of ammo picks swap #31 and #34 for #15
Saints Pick. D J Fluker OT
#34 Alex Okeafor OLB

nycsaintfan 03-28-2013 05:56 PM

Re: Trade down scenarios
 
You must have saw this on path to the draft...

I like it. Although I would be more interested in the safeties... Reed or Cyprien.

Heck, we may as well go all the way and really give the secondary a new look.

voodooido 03-28-2013 05:57 PM

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Fluker would not be there at 31 I imagine. If we want him than he needs to be the pick at 15

lsutigerfan 03-28-2013 06:07 PM

Re: Trade down scenarios
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by triman (Post 490680)
Minn.Vikings are one team interested in Tavon Austin swap #15 for #25
SAINTS pick Datone Jone DE
#52 J.Collins OLB
#75 Marcus Hunt DE
#109 Brandon Williams NT
#144 Jordan Mills OT
#183 Kwame. Geathers NT
SF 49ers also have an interest and lots of ammo picks swap #31 and #34 for #15
Saints Pick. D J Fluker OT
#34 Alex Okeafor OLB

I like it but we don't need 2 DE's so swap Hunt for CB DJ Hayden who I love and we are in business.

alleycat_126 03-28-2013 06:14 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by voodooido (Post 490684)
Fluker would not be there at 31 I imagine. If we want him than he needs to be the pick at 15

Armstead will be available when we pick in the third. Why not get all the defensive talent you can as early as you can.

Leighton B 03-28-2013 08:00 PM

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I DON'T KNOW WHO THE DATONE JONES GUY BUT WE DON'T NEED TO DRAFT D LINE THAT HIGH! Maybe an olb, cb, safety or lt. It'll probably be that unless StarL. falls he'd be a steal at 15. But he's an exception! But we need difference makers and i see Datone Jones more solid than dynamic! Margus Hunt scares me cause he could be a bad bust or a superstar who knows nobody has been his size and played d line plus short arms for 6'8 and so I'm not sure backup plan as an offensive tackle is a possibility. BEING TALL IS A DISADVANTAGE BEING A DEFENSIVE LINEMAN #LEVERAGE LOW MAN WINS! Also I love B Williams he'll be there in the 3rd hopefully! But we have to trade a couple players for some picks! I would only trade down for a haul!

triman 03-28-2013 08:21 PM

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With the depth in this draft there is very little drop off in the quality of players from 15 to 32. Not having a 2nd rd Pick really sucks

Leighton B 03-28-2013 08:32 PM

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I DIDN'T EVEN LOOK YOUR DREAMING IF YOU THINK Brandon Williams will be there in 5th rd he's a 1st rd talent from small school like Robert Alford who I Love for the Saints if we can get a 2nd rd pick , but Williams is maybe going to fall to the 3rd rd!
My mock would go either first by trading a rb we have Cadet whose ready to blossom like Ivory this yr! So trade Ivory for a 2nd or 3rd or you cld go big and trade Ingram if value is there! So there is my 2nd rd pick and trading R. Harper is going to give me a 5th!

Seer1 03-28-2013 08:55 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Leighton B (Post 490732)
I DIDN'T EVEN LOOK YOUR DREAMING IF YOU THINK Brandon Williams will be there in 5th rd he's a 1st rd talent from small school like Robert Alford who I Love for the Saints if we can get a 2nd rd pick , but Williams is maybe going to fall to the 3rd rd!
My mock would go either first by trading a rb we have Cadet whose ready to blossom like Ivory this yr! So trade Ivory for a 2nd or 3rd or you cld go big and trade Ingram if value is there! So there is my 2nd rd pick and trading R. Harper is going to give me a 5th!

I agree we'd be lucky if Brandon's there in the third. Even if we could get a fifth for Harper, who are we gonna replace him with?

triman 03-28-2013 09:53 PM

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Ivory wouldn't. bring any thing more than a 4th if that.

nycsaintfan 03-28-2013 10:00 PM

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I just don't think Harper is tradable. But, if we can get an extra few picks... mainly a second, we can draft a safety like Reed (late 1st) or Cyprien (2nd round... if we can acquire one).

You can replace Harper with Jenkins. We need more of a coverage strong safety anyway.

A part of me really does hope we can trade down in this draft. I think we can get more value later in the first round.

jcp026 03-28-2013 10:01 PM

Re: Trade down scenarios
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by triman (Post 490680)
Minn.Vikings are one team interested in Tavon Austin swap #15 for #25
SAINTS pick Datone Jone DE
#52 J.Collins OLB
#75 Marcus Hunt DE
#109 Brandon Williams NT
#144 Jordan Mills OT
#183 Kwame. Geathers NT
SF 49ers also have an interest and lots of ammo picks swap #31 and #34 for #15
Saints Pick. D J Fluker OT
#34 Alex Okeafor OLB

I don't think I'd go for their 25. 23 or bust. If they want Austin, they will pay up. Then I'd be open to trading down with the Niners as well. Anyway...

#25 ILB Alec Ogletree
#52 OLB Jamie Collins or DL Jesse Williams or OL Kyle Long or S Eric Reid
#75 NT Johnathan Jenkins
#109 OT Jordan Mills
#144 SS Robert Lester
#183 CB Tharold Simon

alleycat_126 03-28-2013 10:26 PM

Re: Trade down scenarios
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by nycsaintfan (Post 490683)
You must have saw this on path to the draft...

I like it. Although I would be more interested in the safeties... Reed or Cyprien.

Heck, we may as well go all the way and really give the secondary a new look.

Reid, or Rambo...... if we fix our LT issue before the draft, I would trade down for a second, and a fourth....

Baccari Rambo or Jesse Williams
Datone Jones
Jamie Collins

alleycat_126 03-28-2013 10:47 PM

Re: Trade down scenarios
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Leighton B (Post 490723)
I DON'T KNOW WHO THE DATONE JONES GUY BUT WE DON'T NEED TO DRAFT D LINE THAT HIGH! Maybe an olb, cb, safety or lt. It'll probably be that unless StarL. falls he'd be a steal at 15. But he's an exception! But we need difference makers and i see Datone Jones more solid than dynamic! Margus Hunt scares me cause he could be a bad bust or a superstar who knows nobody has been his size and played d line plus short arms for 6'8 and so I'm not sure backup plan as an offensive tackle is a possibility. BEING TALL IS A DISADVANTAGE BEING A DEFENSIVE LINEMAN #LEVERAGE LOW MAN WINS! Also I love B Williams he'll be there in the 3rd hopefully! But we have to trade a couple players for some picks! I would only trade down for a haul!


I'd never take Datone Jones at 15 you are right to high.... but I am talking about trading out of 15 which seem all to easy right now.... Minnesota you could straight pick, or you maybe able to get extra picks from San Fran who is a likely partner... Datone is your guy in that setup, I come back in the second grab my FS Baccarri Rambo (Georgia) and grab my left Tackle in the third Terron Armstead!!!

Joker 03-28-2013 11:12 PM

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What's the chance of them taking Tavon Austin or the safety from texas Vaccaro if there at 15?
They have been known to take the best player available and it almost for sure that the 3 coveted LT's won't be there, just asking for everyone's thoughts.

nycsaintfan 03-28-2013 11:28 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Joker (Post 490770)
What's the chance of them taking Tavon Austin or the safety from texas Vaccaro if there at 15?
They have been known to take the best player available and it almost for sure that the 3 coveted LT's won't be there, just asking for everyone's thoughts.

I like the idea of taking either one of those guys with our pick at 15. Austin would be another nice little weapon for Payton and Brees to play with.

Vaccaro makes more sense, though. With that said, the best thing to do is skip these guys and trade down.

TheOak 03-29-2013 03:59 PM

We use out first round on Mingo.

hagan714 03-29-2013 05:44 PM

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i really hate round one all together. everyone needs to move down 10 picks or so. there are 2 maybe 3 players that really belong in the top ten.

trade if you can and if you can not thank god for the new draft salary set up.

triman 03-29-2013 06:03 PM

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Not having a second rd pick is a particularly bitter pill to swallow in this draft. Because of the depth of defensive players and our pressing needs it is possible that we could really benefit trading down and recouping a 2nd rd pick.

Rugby Saint II 03-29-2013 06:17 PM

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If we come away from the draft with Rambo and a LT I'll be stoked.

Marlboro Man 03-30-2013 02:56 PM

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I'd prefer the second option. Only drawback is dealing with that POS in San Fran.

triman 03-31-2013 06:19 AM

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Bengals have two 2nd rd Picks and need a safety. Swap#15 for #20 and # 52 Pick A.Ogletree and J Collins. Dome Patrol? ?
J Jenkins NT@#75
T.Matthieu @#109
D. Williams S@#144
C.Hamilton WR? 183
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lsutigerfan 03-31-2013 07:07 AM

Re: Trade down scenarios
 
I don't know why the love fest around here for Bacarri Rambo. It must be the name. IMO, they're about 5 or 6 better safeties in this draft. Some can be had in the 3rd or even 4th rounds.

hagan714 03-31-2013 08:09 AM

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Bengals are a solid option. they are hungry. Knocked out of the playoffs early. Young club that feel i am sure they are ready to take the next step.

Minnesota out of need is another

The key is what players fall to us more than anything.

lsutigerfan 03-31-2013 09:15 AM

Re: Trade down scenarios
 
The 49ers said to have interest in Tavon Austin. Well, how bad do you want him niners? Its gonna cost you to keep him from the Rams. we want a first, the Chiefs second and the panthers third for the 15th pick and a 5th rounder.


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