Malcolm Jenkins could see more nickel

jeanpierre · 05-01-2013, 10:08 PM

Originally Posted by |Mitch|

If Harper was the big problem, he would have been released and Vaccaro would play SS...

That would mean the Saints Brass would have to admit a mistake with his contract...

Originally Posted by Danno

He isn't

Roll Tide!

Originally Posted by spkb25

And I am not defending or advocating for MJ, but I don't even want to hear that bull**** on this site that Harper isn't a liability in coverage, bull****

Saints fans not in denial know Harper can't cover, can't catch, can't tackle, but they take the good with the bad and don't want to come off as haters...but differing opinions is what makes it great...

me, hate Roman Harper's Game...

spkb25 · 05-02-2013, 05:31 AM

Originally Posted by jeanpierre

Saints fans not in denial know Harper can't cover.

This

spkb25 · 05-01-2013, 09:05 PM

You wouldn't. You'd draft his replacement and give him a year to learn.

spkb25 · 05-01-2013, 09:20 PM

well I have to get up in the morning. I'll leave it to the ladies

jeanpierre · 05-01-2013, 10:42 PM

Jenkins may see more nickel, but he won't see more coin from the Saints...

Now if he has an All-Pro Season, then things change...

Cruize · 05-01-2013, 10:58 PM

The Saints took a very gifted athlete who excelled at CB in college and tried to make him a safety. For whatever reason it hasn't worked. If he's moved back to CB and used in a man scheme he will excel again. He's big, strong, and fast enough. I fear JR will have the same lack of success at OLB. Only the most gifted can make a position change at the NFL level and succeed.

westbankdaze · 05-02-2013, 07:06 AM

We have such short memories. Jenkins aka "double move" used to get roasted at corner. He was so bad at corner we moved him to FS. I just don't get the love for him. He is a bust. Go back and watch the cowboys game in the dome a few years back. That game was the icing on the cake for that season for him.

Harper at least was a good at one time. But he has single handedly been the weak link in our defense the last couple of playoff games we lost. Vacarro is known for being able to cover guys bigger than him which has to be a reason we picked him up.

jeanpierre · 05-02-2013, 08:55 AM

Originally Posted by westbankdaze

We have such short memories. Jenkins aka "double move" used to get roasted at corner. He was so bad at corner we moved him to FS. I just don't get the love for him. He is a bust. Go back and watch the cowboys game in the dome a few years back. That game was the icing on the cake for that season for him.

Harper at least was a good at one time. But he has single handedly been the weak link in our defense the last couple of playoff games we lost. Vacarro is known for being able to cover guys bigger than him which has to be a reason we picked him up.

As a rookie? One year in the league? One game?

I remember him muscling, taking the ball away from Washington receiver in his limited playing time...

Harper was good at one time? LMAO Devin Hester Pass Interference? Seattle TE Three Touchdowns? Green Bay I, II? Don't hate the player - just hate his game...

westbankdaze · 05-02-2013, 12:23 PM

Originally Posted by jeanpierre

As a rookie? One year in the league? One game?

I remember him muscling, taking the ball away from Washington receiver in his limited playing time...

Harper was good at one time? LMAO Devin Hester Pass Interference? Seattle TE Three Touchdowns? Green Bay I, II? Don't hate the player - just hate his game...

Harper led the league in sacks for a safety one year. He was also big in our 09 run - he was and is a stout run stopper.

Regarding MJ - the only thing I can say is that it took the front office only one year to know he wasn't going to be playing CB any more.

jeanpierre · 05-02-2013, 03:46 PM

Originally Posted by westbankdaze

Harper led the league in sacks for a safety one year. He was also big in our 09 run - he was and is a stout run stopper.

Regarding MJ - the only thing I can say is that it took the front office only one year to know he wasn't going to be playing CB any more.

Daze, what good is a corvette that can win a small load tractor pull if you can't win some quarter mile runs against some street punks or pick up the babes at the Daiquiri Shoppe?!?

Brother, he's a defensive back; a safety; last line of defense; he can't cover, he can't hit straight up; and he can't catch; he's slooooww...

You're right, he led the league in sacks as a safety, but how many times was he sent and didn't make the play?!? how many times was he sent more than contemporary safeties on other teams?!? We had to send him cause he was a liability in coverage...

I appreciate the love, but man when I hear the sack stat quote I keep asking, as a Defensive Back, shouldn't he be able to First, Cover?!?

The Sack thing should be a bonus as a DB, not what he hangs his hat on...

05-01-2013, 10:08 PM	#1
jeanpierre Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Thibodaux Posts: 43,543 Blog Entries: 39	Re: Malcolm Jenkins could see more nickel Originally Posted by \|Mitch\| If Harper was the big problem, he would have been released and Vaccaro would play SS... That would mean the Saints Brass would have to admit a mistake with his contract... Originally Posted by Danno He isn't Roll Tide! Originally Posted by spkb25 And I am not defending or advocating for MJ, but I don't even want to hear that bull** on this site that Harper isn't a liability in coverage, bull** Saints fans not in denial know Harper can't cover, can't catch, can't tackle, but they take the good with the bad and don't want to come off as haters...but differing opinions is what makes it great... me, hate Roman Harper's Game... K Major likes this.

05-02-2013, 05:31 AM	#2
spkb25 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Baltimore, MD Posts: 13,145	Re: Malcolm Jenkins could see more nickel Originally Posted by jeanpierre Saints fans not in denial know Harper can't cover. This

05-01-2013, 09:05 PM	#3
spkb25 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Baltimore, MD Posts: 13,145	Re: Malcolm Jenkins could see more nickel You wouldn't. You'd draft his replacement and give him a year to learn.

05-01-2013, 09:20 PM	#4
spkb25 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Baltimore, MD Posts: 13,145	Re: Malcolm Jenkins could see more nickel well I have to get up in the morning. I'll leave it to the ladies

05-01-2013, 10:42 PM	#5
jeanpierre Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Thibodaux Posts: 43,543 Blog Entries: 39	Re: Malcolm Jenkins could see more nickel Jenkins may see more nickel, but he won't see more coin from the Saints... Now if he has an All-Pro Season, then things change...

05-01-2013, 10:58 PM	#6
Cruize 1000 Posts + Join Date: May 2007 Posts: 4,467	Re: Malcolm Jenkins could see more nickel The Saints took a very gifted athlete who excelled at CB in college and tried to make him a safety. For whatever reason it hasn't worked. If he's moved back to CB and used in a man scheme he will excel again. He's big, strong, and fast enough. I fear JR will have the same lack of success at OLB. Only the most gifted can make a position change at the NFL level and succeed. SaintnDE likes this.
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05-02-2013, 07:06 AM	#7
westbankdaze 500th Post Join Date: Jul 2011 Posts: 843	Re: Malcolm Jenkins could see more nickel We have such short memories. Jenkins aka "double move" used to get roasted at corner. He was so bad at corner we moved him to FS. I just don't get the love for him. He is a bust. Go back and watch the cowboys game in the dome a few years back. That game was the icing on the cake for that season for him. Harper at least was a good at one time. But he has single handedly been the weak link in our defense the last couple of playoff games we lost. Vacarro is known for being able to cover guys bigger than him which has to be a reason we picked him up.
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05-02-2013, 08:55 AM	#8
jeanpierre Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Thibodaux Posts: 43,543 Blog Entries: 39	Re: Malcolm Jenkins could see more nickel Originally Posted by westbankdaze We have such short memories. Jenkins aka "double move" used to get roasted at corner. He was so bad at corner we moved him to FS. I just don't get the love for him. He is a bust. Go back and watch the cowboys game in the dome a few years back. That game was the icing on the cake for that season for him. Harper at least was a good at one time. But he has single handedly been the weak link in our defense the last couple of playoff games we lost. Vacarro is known for being able to cover guys bigger than him which has to be a reason we picked him up. As a rookie? One year in the league? One game? I remember him muscling, taking the ball away from Washington receiver in his limited playing time... Harper was good at one time? LMAO Devin Hester Pass Interference? Seattle TE Three Touchdowns? Green Bay I, II? Don't hate the player - just hate his game... frydaddy and K Major like this.

05-02-2013, 12:23 PM	#9
westbankdaze 500th Post Join Date: Jul 2011 Posts: 843	Re: Malcolm Jenkins could see more nickel Originally Posted by jeanpierre As a rookie? One year in the league? One game? I remember him muscling, taking the ball away from Washington receiver in his limited playing time... Harper was good at one time? LMAO Devin Hester Pass Interference? Seattle TE Three Touchdowns? Green Bay I, II? Don't hate the player - just hate his game... Harper led the league in sacks for a safety one year. He was also big in our 09 run - he was and is a stout run stopper. Regarding MJ - the only thing I can say is that it took the front office only one year to know he wasn't going to be playing CB any more.
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05-02-2013, 03:46 PM	#10
jeanpierre Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Thibodaux Posts: 43,543 Blog Entries: 39	Re: Malcolm Jenkins could see more nickel Originally Posted by westbankdaze Harper led the league in sacks for a safety one year. He was also big in our 09 run - he was and is a stout run stopper. Regarding MJ - the only thing I can say is that it took the front office only one year to know he wasn't going to be playing CB any more. Daze, what good is a corvette that can win a small load tractor pull if you can't win some quarter mile runs against some street punks or pick up the babes at the Daiquiri Shoppe?!? Brother, he's a defensive back; a safety; last line of defense; he can't cover, he can't hit straight up; and he can't catch; he's slooooww... You're right, he led the league in sacks as a safety, but how many times was he sent and didn't make the play?!? how many times was he sent more than contemporary safeties on other teams?!? We had to send him cause he was a liability in coverage... I appreciate the love, but man when I hear the sack stat quote I keep asking, as a Defensive Back, shouldn't he be able to First, Cover?!? The Sack thing should be a bonus as a DB, not what he hangs his hat on...
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