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RockyMountainSaint 06-04-2013 06:39 PM

Graham’s contract status somehow stays under the radar
 
Graham’s contract status somehow stays under the radar | ProFootballTalk
When a high-profile player enters the last year of his contract, it’s usually a big deal.

“Usually” is the operative term because, when it comes to Saints tight end Jimmy Graham, no one seems to notice that one of the best young players in the NFL is careening toward free agency, with no sign that the Saints can or will give him a new deal.

A third-round pick in 2010, Graham has seen New England 2010 second-rounder Rob Gronkowski and New England 2010 fourth-rounder Aaron Hernandez get long-term deal after the 2011 season. You know, the same season in which Graham ping-ponged with Gronk for the single-season tight end receiving yardage record.

To his credit, Graham doesn’t complain about the lack of a new contract. His camp doesn’t piss and/or moan privately to the press about the team’s failure to shift the injury risk (see Gronkowski and Hernandez) away from a player who arguably has earned that privilege.

As a result, hardly anyone realizes Graham is in a contract year. On Tuesday, he spoke to the media in connection with the team’s mandatory minicamp, and the transcript shows not a single question about his contract. There’s also not a single answer alluding to his desire to get paid.

“Everything is going well,” Graham said. “I’ve been in rehab and I’ve been getting stronger. Right now I’m almost 100 percent. Going into camp, I’ll be 100 percent. It just feels good. It just feels good to be healthy finally and back playing like myself. . . . Now I am healthy and just looking to the future and looking to get back in the playoffs.”

If he performs well, the Saints will find themselves in a potential predicament. A multi-million-dollar franchise-tag fight is looming on the question of whether he’s a tight end or a receiver (it surely is).

Regardless of how it’s resolved, the Saints may not have the cap room to use either level of the tag on Graham. As Pat Yasinskas of ESPN.com recently pointed out, the Saints have $143.4 million in salary commitments for 2014.

Jack Vegas 06-04-2013 10:40 PM

Re: Graham’s contract status somehow stays under the radar
 
Dumb "story" full of speculation and not much substance.

According to PFT, the Saints supposedly didn't have any cap room this year, they ended up signing Lewis/Watson/Butler/Coleman/S. Wallace. PFT said the same thing in 2012, right before they signed Grubbs/Bunkley/Hawthorne/Lofton. They did it again in 2011, the Saints signed Rogers/Franklin/Kreutz/Sproles.

You'll have to forgive me for not taking PFT seriously when it comes to salary cap talk. Florio was sort of in our corner with the bounty stuff, but now he's back to his same old s***-disturbing nonsense.

jeanpierre 06-05-2013 06:47 AM

No Room Left For Jimmy?!?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Posted by Mike Florio on June 4, 2013, 6:47 PM EDT

Graham’s contract status somehow stays under the radar | ProFootballTalk

Graham’s contract status somehow stays under the radar

Posted by Mike Florio on June 4, 2013, 6:47 PM EDT
Graham AP

When a high-profile player enters the last year of his contract, it’s usually a big deal...

...To his credit, Graham doesn’t complain about the lack of a new contract. His camp doesn’t piss and/or moan privately to the press about the team’s failure to shift the injury risk (see Gronkowski and Hernandez) away from a player who arguably has earned that privilege.

...If he performs well, the Saints will find themselves in a potential predicament. A multi-million-dollar franchise-tag fight is looming on the question of whether he’s a tight end or a receiver (it surely is).

Regardless of how it’s resolved, the Saints may not have the cap room to use either level of the tag on Graham...

With the cap at $123 million and only inching up, Drew Brees may need an explanation come March.

Now it's time for Brees to step forward and say the extra couple of million for a Tom Condon contract is not as important as winning the Championship as a team.

So is Drew going to be a team player or neaux?

Tom Brady did a redux on his contract for the team?

Winning multiple Lombardi Trophies will yield a lifetime of revenue that a short-sighted contract will not do...

N'est-ce pas?


:bng:

papz 06-05-2013 07:23 AM

Re: No Room Left For Jimmy?!?
 
I'm not even the least bit concerned of how we're going to find money to get Graham's deal done.

He's not going anywhere period.

TheOak 06-05-2013 08:07 AM

Re: No Room Left For Jimmy?!?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by jeanpierre (Post 506606)
Now it's time for Brees to step forward and say the extra couple of million for a Tom Condon contract is not as important as winning the Championship as a team.

So is Drew going to be a team player or neaux?

Tom Brady did a redux on his contract for the team?

Winning multiple Lombardi Trophies will yield a lifetime of revenue that a short-sighted contract will not do...

N'est-ce pas?


:bng:

Brady vs Brees in regards to contracts is apples to oranges.

NuNu318 06-05-2013 08:15 AM

Re: Graham’s contract status somehow stays under the radar
 
Loomis will find the money to sign him not worried in the lease. Graham is a key piece to this offense and SP no Brees will not be willing to let him go.

I also think Brees will restructure his deal next offseason...seems like most high paid players do that in the 3rd yr of long term contracts any way.

TheOak 06-05-2013 08:40 AM

Re: Graham’s contract status somehow stays under the radar
 
These columnists like Florio make mountains out of flat ground. Jimmy's rookie contract is not finished, there is no need to even start talking about a new contract until it is with in 90 days of expiration.

Jimmy Graham had 1 season where he broke 1000 yards and one season in the top 20 receivers. Thus far he has proven to be a very good TE, but that's all.

No... reason... what... so ... ever... to give an early contract.

Has there been cap room to give Jimmy a new contract? No
Has Jimmy asked for one? No

But the biggest and most important reason the Saints rarely do early contracts is ... well.. See Gronkowski this season. Its a very bad business move. Gronk in the last 12 months has had what.. 3 forearm surgerys and is about to or just had a back surgery... he has a shiny new 8 year $55M contract and the pats do not know if he will even play this season.

Rugby Saint II 06-05-2013 01:31 PM

Re: Graham’s contract status somehow stays under the radar
 
Loomis likes to watch the fans sweat it out until the last minute.

homerj07 06-05-2013 03:02 PM

Re: Graham’s contract status somehow stays under the radar
 
All said. I would like to see the resign him before the season starts. Lock him up & get rid of the speculation & stupid pet tricks that the media loves so much

TheOak 06-05-2013 03:06 PM

Re: Graham’s contract status somehow stays under the radar
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by homerj07 (Post 506696)
All said. I would like to see the resign him before the season starts. Lock him up & get rid of the speculation & stupid pet tricks that the media loves so much

His contract still has a full year left on it.. Why fool with it a year early?



With zero animosity between the FO and Jimmy/ His agent right now do you want to start the contract negotiations and have it possibly cause issues during the 2013 season? Distractions? The FO has no idea yet what it can afford to pay Jimmy.


I just don't get the need to force an issue.

AsylumGuido 06-05-2013 03:10 PM

Re: No Room Left For Jimmy?!?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by jeanpierre (Post 506606)
Now it's time for Brees to step forward and say the extra couple of million for a Tom Condon contract is not as important as winning the Championship as a team.

So is Drew going to be a team player or neaux?

Tom Brady did a redux on his contract for the team?

Winning multiple Lombardi Trophies will yield a lifetime of revenue that a short-sighted contract will not do...

N'est-ce pas?


:bng:

The "saintly" Tom Brady redid his deal because it guaranteed him $30,000,000 more in guarantees in the form of a signing bonus.

jeanpierre 06-06-2013 10:27 PM

Re: Graham’s contract status somehow stays under the radar
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by TheOak (Post 506632)
But the biggest and most important reason the Saints rarely do early contracts is ... well.. See Gronkowski this season. Its a very bad business move. Gronk in the last 12 months has had what.. 3 forearm surgerys and is about to or just had a back surgery... he has a shiny new 8 year $55M contract and the pats do not know if he will even play this season.

Oak, that first statement is not accurate...

The Saints tried to extend Brees the year before the passing blitzkrieg the Saints unleashed on the league - breaking Marino's record...

And Bushrod and his agent were saavy enough to wait on the extension offered and for him, well, he's whole lot richer in Chicago than had he stayed in New Orleans...

But you're also right in that where they screwed the pooch was extending guys like Will Smith, Roman Harper, and Charles Grant - those guys turned around and each laid their own Mr. Hankey...

So extended early, when projecting age vs production, can be windfall moves, allowing the team to really improve the talent level fast as they give themselves cap room...

QBREES9 06-06-2013 10:49 PM

Re: Graham’s contract status somehow stays under the radar
 
It will get done.

alleycat_126 06-07-2013 05:57 AM

Re: No Room Left For Jimmy?!?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by jeanpierre (Post 506606)
Now it's time for Brees to step forward and say the extra couple of million for a Tom Condon contract is not as important as winning the Championship as a team.

So is Drew going to be a team player or neaux?

Tom Brady did a redux on his contract for the team?

Winning multiple Lombardi Trophies will yield a lifetime of revenue that a short-sighted contract will not do...

N'est-ce pas?


:bng:

Why does everybody talk about Brady's redo as if he did the team a favor....... Brady's wife also pulls in millions of dollars so I do believe he is in a better position for a redo than any other qb in the league.....

jeanpierre 06-07-2013 06:58 AM

Re: No Room Left For Jimmy?!?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by alleycat_126 (Post 506957)
Why does everybody talk about Brady's redo as if he did the team a favor....... Brady's wife also pulls in millions of dollars so I do believe he is in a better position for a redo than any other qb in the league.....

Feel what your saying Cat - but millions he's made in Louisiana or really anywhere is pretty good security...

What I'm concerned about as a fan of the Saints is being sure we can sign our developed players and quality free agent players to make this team a perennial competitor...

And even the great Loomidini can't keep postponing the inevitable, we're gonna get bit in the arse at some point...

Cruize 06-07-2013 08:37 AM

Re: Graham’s contract status somehow stays under the radar
 
He will get paid. He will get paid by the Saints. He and his agent could have pushed the Saints into a contract this offseason. He deserves more than he's being paid. But, after a year of being injured and some inconsistency catching the ball, it wouldn't have been good for Graham or the team. Now back healthy, and with the team poised for a big year, the payoff for Graham next offseason is set to be higher.

Jack Vegas 06-08-2013 02:06 PM

Re: No Room Left For Jimmy?!?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by jeanpierre (Post 506962)
And even the great Loomidini can't keep postponing the inevitable, we're gonna get bit in the arse at some point...

Of course, but then you do what the Colts did, blow it all up and start from scratch. Likely going to have to do that anyway, at least a little bit, when Brees hangs it up.

vpheughan 06-08-2013 02:58 PM

Re: Graham’s contract status somehow stays under the radar
 
He has a contract for a year. I'm not going to lose any sleep over "what if's"
Ok, just one "What if he gets a gazillion dollar new contract and blows out a knee on the very first play?" Even if he gets the gazillion dollar contract just like his QB did all we will hear is "Now we can't afford to go after any "Big Name" FA's" Sound familiar?


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