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dizzle88 06-07-2013 01:00 PM

Saints Rookie Safety Vaccarro Proving to be a quick study
 
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With each passing day since he took his first professional practice snaps with the New Orleans Saints during rookie minicamp last month, Kenny Vaccaro has gotten better.

After a rather low-key start in the offseason workouts, Vaccaro, the Saints' rookie first-round draft pick, seems to be making steady improvement and coming on strong in recent workouts.

The Saints' coaching staff has praised Vaccaro's progress in learning the system. And Vaccaro finally got to show off his quick development this week during the Saints' three-day minicamp that was opened to the media and fans.

"Kenny is steadily progressing," Saints secondary coach Wesley McGriff said. "From the learning of the playbook, he has got an exceptional football IQ. He is picking up the speed of the game. The one thing about Kenny is he is very engaging. He's always into it.


"He's not one of those kids where you got to push to get better. He is a self-motivator. You can definitely see the progress and the desire in him to want to be good."

With Malcolm Jenkins and Roman Harper, the incumbent starters at safety, returning, new defensive coordinator Rob Ryan already has unveiled schemes that'll put all three safeties on the field at the same time. And Vaccaro has taken advantage of his opportunities.

Vaccaro turned in perhaps his best practice of his young career Wednesday when he was one of the brightest stars on the Saints' defense.

Getting reps with the first-team defense at safety and as nickel back, the 6-foot, 214-pound Vaccaro, who starred at Texas before being selected by the Saints with the 15th overall pick in April's draft, displayed obvious signs of his unique pass-coverage skills.

Vaccaro made two of the best plays of Wednesday's practice, breaking up a pair of passes by backup quarterback Luke McCown. Vaccaro nearly came away with an acrobatic interception on the first one, diving in front of the ball but failing to control it for the pick.

Then he stole a touchdown from receiver Nick Toon, lunging to knock the ball away in the end zone just as Toon appeared ready to pull it in.

Although Vaccaro didn't make any standout plays Thursday, he regularly had solid coverage against receivers and tight ends.

"I think I've progressed a lot, honestly," Vaccaro said. "There is a great group of defensive backs around me teaching me how to become a pro. I'm picking up the system real fast.

"Today was our last day in minicamp and I just felt like one of the guys. I learned it so quick. I'm just real comfortable out there already."

Read more: New Orleans Saints rookie safety Kenny Vaccaro is proving to be a quick study | NOLA.com

Love to hear this sort of stuff, can't wait to see him put the pads on and hit somebody on game day

Rugby Saint II 06-07-2013 01:42 PM

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I'm excited about the guy. But I'm going to evaluate him like I don't have a clue about him.

Crusader 06-07-2013 03:46 PM

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At times, Vaccaro has been seen and heard helping put teammates in the right position.
Not bad for a rookie not even trough his first training camp yet.

dizzle88 06-07-2013 03:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Crusader (Post 507036)
Not bad for a rookie not even trough his first training camp yet.

Agreed, thats the sign of a guy that has got a high football IQ, which in todays game can prove to be vital

Mr.Riaton 06-07-2013 03:55 PM

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Even if this kid is not great, pretty good is fine with me.

Crusader 06-07-2013 03:55 PM

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Yeah you are smoked without a good head on your shoulders in the NFL. The game is becoming so complex for all positions. Same thing in college more and more.

Danno 06-07-2013 04:28 PM

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Reminds me of Roman Harper, who was also a starter from day one of his rookie training camp.

NOS2SB 06-07-2013 04:29 PM

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Self motivator motivates me. not just some dude happy he's in the nfl and satisfied. he has drive.

foreverfan 06-07-2013 05:27 PM

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Yea... Yea... Yea... but can he catch?

rezburna 06-07-2013 05:42 PM

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And so many people were disappointed with us picking him......

ChrisXVI 06-07-2013 07:48 PM

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Considering Malcolm Jenkins is completely lost on the field, I think this is extremely good news!

FinSaint 06-08-2013 01:57 AM

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Originally Posted by rezburna (Post 507052)
And so many people were disappointed with us picking him......


And I still kind of am... I just think that there would've been better options out there for the Saints at #15; ones which would've addressed a position of more need than the safety position - especially if they planned all along to keep (and extent the contract) Harper around.

Nevertheless, I don't doubt that Vaccaro is a good collegiate player who can become a good or even great NFL player, but I just see too much Harper in him to be overtly excited at this point in time.

hagan714 06-08-2013 07:14 AM

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i want to see him play an entire season before i judge this pick.

Ashley 06-08-2013 07:28 AM

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Good news to hear, just make this defense better KV

Seer1 06-08-2013 09:15 AM

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Originally Posted by hagan714 (Post 507096)
i want to see him play an entire season under a semi-sane DC before i judge this pick.

FIFY

And Malcolm too.

dizzle88 06-08-2013 01:40 PM

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Originally Posted by FinSaint (Post 507087)
but I just see too much Harper in him to be overtly excited at this point in time.

You mean the guy thats the leader in sacks from the safety position between all active players?

I like Harper and to me Vaccarro looks like harper with more speed and better ball skills

Every player struggles from time to time, ive got a feeling people refuse to let the seattle game go

billyt81 06-08-2013 06:44 PM

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I'm guessing he may not be a ball hawk, but with his frame and athleticism hopefully he can be a great blitzer, a big hitter and a solid cover guy. Can he cover top notch tight ends like Vernon Davis and Tony Gonzales is my big question.

mikesaintfan 06-08-2013 08:46 PM

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hope he is as good as he seems to be

homerj07 06-08-2013 10:39 PM

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Dear god I hope his kid works for us

Crusader 06-09-2013 02:35 AM

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Originally Posted by dizzle88 (Post 507146)
You mean the guy thats the leader in sacks from the safety position between all active players?

I like Harper and to me Vaccarro looks like harper with more speed and better ball skills

Every player struggles from time to time, ive got a feeling people refuse to let the seattle game go

You mean the Seattle game where Harper weren't the only one blowing coverage and the overall scheme was completely horrendous?

dizzle88 06-09-2013 04:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Crusader (Post 507203)
You mean the Seattle game where Harper weren't the only one blowing coverage and the overall scheme was completely horrendous?

Exactly

People use that game to abuse Harper when every single DB got burned

AllSaints 06-09-2013 04:26 PM

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He is going to be a great pic for us ! Already got his jersey on the way ! ! ! KV ! ! ! Who Dat !

FinSaint 06-10-2013 01:54 AM

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Originally Posted by dizzle88 (Post 507146)
You mean the guy thats the leader in sacks from the safety position between all active players?

I like Harper and to me Vaccarro looks like harper with more speed and better ball skills

Every player struggles from time to time, ive got a feeling people refuse to let the seattle game go


You misunderstood me. If anything, I've defended Harper around here more times than I can count and I do think he's been a good player for the Saints in the past and he still can be that going forward under RR.

What I was referring to in my post was that Vaccaro isn't going to be the ball hawking safety some seem to portray him out to be - not necessarily over on these boards - but an upgrade over Harper with fairly similar skill-sets. And this is not going to make a lot of fans happy if their displeasure of Harper was really performance based and not character, which I suspect it mostly has been.

And to bring this unnecessarily long reply to an end. What I meant primarily was that since I think Harper has performed better in the past than most people give him credit for - especially under GW who played a system somewhat similar to what RR presumably is going to - I just don't see Vaccaro as a huge upgrade over Harper who is now going to be with the team at least two more years (pending a premature release or a trade). That is why I said I wasn't overtly excited: the 1st round pick could've been used to introduce a bigger upgrade at another position with a more pressing need.

jeanpierre 06-10-2013 06:45 AM

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Originally Posted by dizzle88 (Post 507146)
Every player struggles from time to time, ive got a feeling people refuse to let the seattle game go

Trust me, it's not just the Seattle game...

Green Bay, Chicago, New York, the Bradford Rundown...

dizzle88 06-10-2013 07:18 AM

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Originally Posted by jeanpierre (Post 507279)
Trust me, it's not just the Seattle game...

Green Bay, Chicago, New York, the Bradford Rundown...

Brees threw 5 picks vs ATL, lost the game for us
3 picks vs SF - 2 went back for TD's
3 picks vs 49ers in playoffs

I know harper has struggled, but if you want to blame harper then brees isnt exempt from the blame either

dizzle88 06-10-2013 07:20 AM

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Originally Posted by FinSaint (Post 507264)
You misunderstood me. If anything, I've defended Harper around here more times than I can count and I do think he's been a good player for the Saints in the past and he still can be that going forward under RR.

What I was referring to in my post was that Vaccaro isn't going to be the ball hawking safety some seem to portray him out to be - not necessarily over on these boards - but an upgrade over Harper with fairly similar skill-sets. And this is not going to make a lot of fans happy if their displeasure of Harper was really performance based and not character, which I suspect it mostly has been.

And to bring this unnecessarily long reply to an end. What I meant primarily was that since I think Harper has performed better in the past than most people give him credit for - especially under GW who played a system somewhat similar to what RR presumably is going to - I just don't see Vaccaro as a huge upgrade over Harper who is now going to be with the team at least two more years (pending a premature release or a trade). That is why I said I wasn't overtly excited: the 1st round pick could've been used to introduce a bigger upgrade at another position with a more pressing need.

I see what you mean, just a misunderstanding on my part brother :bng:

I genuinely feel now ( barring a rash of injuries) we have depth at a lot of defensive positions

Choupique 06-10-2013 07:24 AM

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roman harper has the confidence and trust of the coaches.

i trust their judgement more than any of yours. sorry.

try to be loyal to your team through thick and thin. dance with the one who brought your fair weathered asses to the game.

roman harper has a lot of character and skill. i'm glad he is on our team.

damn straight.

AsylumGuido 06-10-2013 10:19 AM

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Originally Posted by rezburna (Post 507052)
And so many people were disappointed with us picking him......

I wasn't among them.

SaintPauly 06-13-2013 11:21 PM

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If I'm wrong, I apologize, but if my memory serves me correctly our defense has only been ranked inside the top 15 one time, since Payton took over in 06. With that said, if we get our OFFENSE back to the balance we had in 09, with clock control, and grinding down opposing offenses in the 4th quarter, then a very large amount of pressure comes off of the defense.... Plus, not to leave out the turnovers differential that year.... Vaccaro, to me, will be the key.... Harper, nor Jenkins, are exactly "interception magnets".....

SaintnDE 06-14-2013 06:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Choupique (Post 507284)
try to be loyal to your team through thick and thin. dance with the one who brought your fair weathered asses to the game.

damn straight.

Dude, seriously, do you have this saved in notepad to copy/paste on this forum? It's the same drivel from you in every.other.post.

Chill out. It's rediculous.

D_it_up 06-14-2013 07:22 AM

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Learn it fast, my boy! We have another championship to win!

jeanpierre 06-14-2013 07:32 AM

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See Roman getting burned again - don't do that...

See Malcolm out of position - don't do that...

Okay, cheap shot out of the way, he's the rookie that I hope I am wrong about...

K Major 06-14-2013 09:41 AM

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Trust and believe.

Danno 06-14-2013 10:44 AM

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Originally Posted by jeanpierre (Post 508128)
See Roman getting burned again - don't do that...

See Malcolm out of position - don't do that...

Okay, cheap shot out of the way, he's the rookie that I hope I am wrong about...

That would make you wrong about all 3.:p


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