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Jack Vegas 06-12-2013 12:15 PM

What's up with Hawthorne?
 
This guy was a pretty well ballyhooed free agent but we've heard nothing about him so far. Lofton and Vilma seem right now to be the two ILB starters, so he's not doing that. Seems unlikely he'll be a rush end. Maybe he could come in on nickel downs.

BUT, this guy has a $2.5m cap hit this year and that goes up to 3.5 next year. Are we really paying him all that money to be a backup? Is he maybe trade bait at some point?

Danno 06-12-2013 02:03 PM

Re: What's up with Hawthorne?
 
My guess is he'll be a starter when the season opens.

Rugby Saint II 06-12-2013 02:06 PM

Re: What's up with Hawthorne?
 
He'll nail down Vilmas spot.

Jack Vegas 06-12-2013 02:11 PM

Re: What's up with Hawthorne?
 
All the talk has been about how well Lofton and Vilma work together though. I don't think that's something you want to throw away. Any kind of built-in chemistry at this stage will really help the defense and it is pretty vital that the two inside guys in a 3-4 are sympatico.

|Mitch| 06-12-2013 02:14 PM

Re: What's up with Hawthorne?
 
Hawthorne was battling injuries all last season, I expect to see his play improve this season...

Seer1 06-12-2013 02:15 PM

Re: What's up with Hawthorne?
 
Three ILB set anyone??? I think he'll be a good contributor this season.

Danno 06-12-2013 02:20 PM

Re: What's up with Hawthorne?
 
He'll likely start at SAM.

hagan714 06-12-2013 02:26 PM

Re: What's up with Hawthorne?
 
to early to tell but of all the ILB he can play outside probably better than them all. let pray he stays out of the whirl pool

Jack Vegas 06-12-2013 03:04 PM

Guesses at a 53-man roster
 
NM, wrong place

Danno 06-12-2013 03:44 PM

Re: What's up with Hawthorne?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by hagan714 (Post 507801)
to early to tell but of all the ILB he can play outside probably better than them all. let pray he stays out of the whirl pool

I remember when we signed him the reports stated he played all the LB spots well in Seattle.

jeanpierre 06-12-2013 04:10 PM

Re: What's up with Hawthorne?
 
Hawthorne (salary) is now expendable - even with Victor Butler out...

Danno 06-12-2013 04:21 PM

Re: What's up with Hawthorne?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by jeanpierre (Post 507832)
Hawthorne (salary) is now expendable - even with Victor Butler out...

I think Hawthorne costs us over 6 million to cut him this year, and only 2.5 million to keep him.

David Hawthorne Contracts, Salaries, Cap Hits, & Transactions

TheOak 06-12-2013 04:41 PM

Re: What's up with Hawthorne?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Danno (Post 507834)
I think Hawthorne costs us over 6 million to cut him this year, and only 2.5 million to keep him.

David Hawthorne Contracts, Salaries, Cap Hits, & Transactions

And with 5.5 in cap space we would be instantly over.

We would effectively have to cut one to be able to cut Hawthorne.... Cutting two players to get rid of one is not something I would be in favor of. Lol

Boutte 06-12-2013 04:52 PM

Re: What's up with Hawthorne?
 
He was a very good LB in Seattle. Unless, as somebody suggested, there really is a curse on Saints LBs he should be worth the money we're paying him.

TheOak 06-12-2013 05:15 PM

Re: What's up with Hawthorne?
 
If there is it was Shanle's doing. He was also obviously immune.


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