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Was searching for rumors on the McKenzie situation and found this. Apparently the curse of ex-Saints players missing significant time with their new club this year continues. In other news: mysterious rose fragrance reported coming from front office of Saint's headquarters.

(source: http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/200...5/truth.rumor/ )

-Sars

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Comes to camp at a disappointing 380 lbs, then dislocates a kneecap.

I wonder what may have been a contributing factor to that?

Weight, I think I know the answer.

Lets hope Sullivan doesn\'t turn into Grady Jackson. I\'m afraid he may be on that path.

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The current Saints players seem to be cursed just as much though.
Darren Howard
Deuce McAllister
Sedrick Hodge
Jason Craft
Bryan Young

And thats just this year.

Last year was horrid...
Hodge
Stallworth
Conwell
Howard
Whitehead
Carter
T-rex
Bentley
Cie Grant

Maybe its not the \"EX\" part thats the curse anymore.

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Sully I think it is eating too much gumbo.

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The Moonshiners will tell you Grady\'s problems were related to the Saints organization and Haz. What kinda Mickey Mouse organization are they running up there in Green Bay anyway? LMAO

:soleil:

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It\'s that voodoo we do so well.

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HA HA HA HA HA! Riddle me this oh wise one - what\'s better - Grady Jackson, or two first round picks wasted to get his twin? Yeah, they\'re a bunch of Einsteins in our front office.

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I\'m going to lean towards Grady simply because we paid him league minimum and didn\'t give up two first rounders to get him. :doh:

:kerry:

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This doesn\'t address the fact that you moonshiners didn\'t think we should get rid of him. Then, after he played a decent game or three here came all the \"I told you so\'s\". You\'re comment fails to address any of this, but then that\'s per the usual.

Why can\'t you simply deal with something head on minus the spin? Riddle me that? LMAO

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No one ever said Grady was God\'s gift, but I will say I TOLD YOU SO AGAIN!!! Consider - the Saints keep Grady at league minimum and use their two first rounders to pick Trufant instead of Sully. What changes?? The secondary is improved, you don\'t have to give up two picks and more money than Trufant is gettnig paid to find a guy like McKenzie, and your line play is no worse, as Sullivan certainly hasn\'t played much better that Grady since he got here, now has he? Instead, you wasted two first rounders on Sullivan, overpaid him, and have a hole in your secondary that requires you to part with more picks and money than you would have had to give up to get a young talent who is proving himself game in and game out in Seattle. Yeah, you\'re right, this way is better. :casstet:

But hey, since I\'m such a spin artist, can you please tell me why the Saints are better off this way? (here comes the cancer argument... again....)

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You have the luxory of hindsight now don\'t you? Therin lies the spin. ;)

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It is all hindsight with the copy cat coach .... ;)

Ravens do it with the xtra lunch bunch , and Hasbeen has to go out and get a lard butt for the line , of course in his infinite stupidity he forgot a Ray Lewis type linebacker in the equation .....

This years theme , keep the current players and do not let another ex-Saint take another team to the play offs .....

[Edited on 26/9/2004 by saintz08]

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WEAK! Yeah, I have hindsight to show me that what I said AT THE TIME was right. Or did I not think that the Saints should have drafted Trufant? Did I not harp about how good Grady\'s play was in GB after they cut him b/c I thought it was at very least stupid to cut him midseason? Yeah, I\'ve got hindsight to show that my initial feelings about the moves you\'re supporting were wrong from the start. You call that spin - the rest of the world calls it proof.

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You\'ve got it all worked out in your head...how that scenario should have played out. I\'m not supporting a move here. Nowhere in my post have I \"supported a move\". I\'m saying you never had that scenario worked out in your head.

What, precisely, \"AT THE TIME\" was it that you said that was \"right\"? Do tell.

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1) We should have drafted Trufant.
2) Grady was not the cancer that Haslett made him out to be (though there were definitely some problems). The guy had talent and could be a contributor for less money in a rotation than could the other alternatives we had midseason that year or for the Georgia D-linemen I joked about us drafting. Oops, not such a joke huh?


What is most fun for me is how you always have me defending my mostly right or right positions. Didn\'t you think that the Sullivan move was a great on and didn\'t you tell us all that we didn\'t need a CB this offseason... and last offseason... and the offseason before that? Explain that logic for me would you? ;)

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Ummm, in a word, no. I didn\'t. Further, I don\'t recall Haz saying Grady was a cancer. Did he? When? He didn\'t follow the rules...as I recall...and you call him a cancer. Why is that? What is the point you\'re trying to make?

I would have liked to have Trufant. Sully hasnt\' worked out...so far. On this we agree, but I didn\'t see into the future regarding Grady Jackson scenario you described, and I don\'t beleive you did either. ;)

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OK Saintfan, I was 100% in theory and 50% right in practice. I\'ll take that over 0% right anyday.

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Perhpas...but it was after the fact. ;)