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xan 07-15-2013 03:45 PM

Re: Mark Ingram Is Most Important Saints RB To Saints 2013 Success
 
Ingram will be important only if --- IF--- he learns how to pick up the blitz and run a screen pass. He's 3rd on the depth chart on those, making him 3rd most important RB.

dizzle88 07-15-2013 04:04 PM

Re: Mark Ingram Is Most Important Saints RB To Saints 2013 Success
 
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Originally Posted by xan (Post 511244)
Ingram will be important only if --- IF--- he learns how to pick up the blitz and run a screen pass. He's 3rd on the depth chart on those, making him 3rd most important RB.

In all fairness, he picks up the blitz very well and they never throw a screen pass to him

Everytime he was in the game last season it was a run up the gut

AsylumGuido 07-15-2013 04:37 PM

Re: Mark Ingram Is Most Important Saints RB To Saints 2013 Success
 
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Originally Posted by dizzle88 (Post 511248)
In all fairness, he picks up the blitz very well and they never throw a screen pass to him

Everytime he was in the game last season it was a run up the gut

This is true. One thing we saw in OT's and minicamp was that he was involved in the screen game fairly heavily.

rezburna 07-15-2013 05:33 PM

Re: Mark Ingram Is Most Important Saints RB To Saints 2013 Success
 
Not utilizing him right.

Danno 07-15-2013 08:50 PM

Re: Mark Ingram Is Most Important Saints RB To Saints 2013 Success
 
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Originally Posted by AsylumGuido (Post 511256)
This is true. One thing we saw in OT's and minicamp was that he was involved in the screen game fairly heavily.

And we probably would have seen that last year if Payton was around.

In 2011, Payton admitted he didn't use Ingram to his full potential. He was probably just bringing him along slowly. And oh yeah, we had that lock-out thing going on too. No OTA's and a shortened TC.

In 2012, no Payton.

I think we'll see a different Ingram this year. The one Payton envisioned when we drafted him.

Beastmode 07-16-2013 12:25 AM

Re: Mark Ingram Is Most Important Saints RB To Saints 2013 Success
 
When players are made to do things outside of what they excelled at in college it often equals failure. The NFL loves to do this...hey let's see what happens if we make a RB who was not a north south runner fill that roll.

I understand sometimes they have to do it but when there is a better viable option it makes no sense. Use them to their strengths as often as you can. That's what really bothered me about last season. We didn't have the OL or RB to do that consistently but they did it anyway.

spkb25 07-16-2013 07:09 AM

Re: Mark Ingram Is Most Important Saints RB To Saints 2013 Success
 
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Originally Posted by lee909 (Post 511187)
I really hope Ingram gets to catch out the backfield this year.Its too obvious its a running play when he takes the field.

Don't get me wrong he isn't Sproles but change thingd up a little and he will produce.

Well this is it, truthfully. I mean when you have backs that can do everything like Sproles and PT and the D is unsure how they'll be used it benefits them. When all you primarily do is hand the ball to MI the defense isn't all that confused.

I don't know if he is a bust or not, but they have to give him a full opportunity to be successful, in my opin. Then if he fails it is what it is.

TheOak 07-16-2013 07:12 AM

Re: Mark Ingram Is Most Important Saints RB To Saints 2013 Success
 
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Originally Posted by Beastmode (Post 511296)
When players are made to do things outside of what they excelled at in college it often equals failure. The NFL loves to do this...hey let's see what happens if we make a RB who was not a north south runner fill that roll.

I understand sometimes they have to do it but when there is a better viable option it makes no sense. Use them to their strengths as often as you can. That's what really bothered me about last season. We didn't have the OL or RB to do that consistently but they did it anyway.

I wouldn't say that is necessarily 100% accurate. If so, then there is an assumption that College coaches are better at talent evaluation than NFL Coaches?

Marcus Allen - NFL RB / College S
Dallas Clark - NFL TE / College LB
Antonio Gates - NFL TE / College LB
Steve Smith - NFL WR / College RB
Andre' Trippett - NFL LB / College DE
Brian Urlacher - NFL LB / College S/WR
Dennis Franklin - NFL RB / College QB
Julian Edelman- NFL PR-WR / College QB
Dennis Franklin - NFL Return Specialist / College QB
Brian Mitchell - RB / College QB (USL)

Rugby Saint II 07-16-2013 03:00 PM

Re: Mark Ingram Is Most Important Saints RB To Saints 2013 Success
 
Wrong! Sean Payton is the most important.

Seer1 07-16-2013 05:32 PM

Re: Mark Ingram Is Most Important Saints RB To Saints 2013 Success
 
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Originally Posted by TheOak (Post 511189)
You mean if they have a Football IQ above Chris Roling?

If I worked down to this guy's level in my job, I'd be unemployed.


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