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RaginCajun83 07-23-2013 11:14 AM

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Jaws and the media can S*UCK IT, I've flipped through 4 different preview mags and all had the Saints 2nd in the division, oh only two days until camp starts

RaginCajun83 07-23-2013 11:25 AM

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10-6, like every year

rezburna 07-23-2013 11:33 AM

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Drew threw 19 picks. I'm surprised he wasn't lower. We all know he's better then Matt Ryan. But if you go off last year, when Drew threw 5 picks in a game where the defense actually showed up then Jaws has credibility.

Danno 07-23-2013 01:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Spot on Dtan (Post 512248)
Saints finished 6 games off the pace last year.

And the only player keeping them relevant (DB9) had another interception-ridden campaign AND is a year older.

I expect some improvement.

But let's not pretend the analysts don't have reason to doubt all the "13 or 14" win predictions this place is rife with.

The last time Payton coached us we won 13 games, and our defense has much more talent now.

13 wins isn't some pie in the sky dream. Been there, done it, and we're even better now.

rezburna 07-23-2013 02:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Spot on Dtan (Post 512285)
More talent? In the "fastest kid at fat camp" sense, yes.

But going from an F to D- isn't exactly cause for celebration.

the falcons defense isn't too sweet either.

rezburna 07-23-2013 02:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Spot on Dtan (Post 512292)
Never said they were anything to write home about.

Attacking the Falcons (of whom I am amply critical) does nothing other than assuage your own fears.

Fear of what? Lol. I'm fine. You don't see me on a Falcons forum because I don't even think about them. No ring, no worries.

|Mitch| 07-23-2013 02:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Spot on Dtan (Post 512285)
More talent? In the "fastest kid at fat camp" sense, yes.

What the hell are you talking about? We picked up one of the top free agent corners, who led the NFL in pass deflections last year.

We drafted the #1 safety in the draft...

We drafted a projected first round NT in the 3rd round...

We're moving back to man coverage scheme, which suits our DB's better...

Plus we're moving to a 3-4 scheme which suits many of our front 7 better...

|Mitch| 07-23-2013 03:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Spot on Dtan (Post 512311)
Do you honestly believe the Saints defense will be any good?

If so, please pick up your "homer" nametag at the front desk.

From last to mid 20's; absolutely!

Just enough to put a whoopin' on the NFC South and make the playoffs

|Mitch| 07-23-2013 03:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Spot on Dtan (Post 512321)
32 to 25?

That's all we need when you have the best offense in the league, anything better and we get another '09 season....

Danno 07-23-2013 03:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Spot on Dtan (Post 512285)
More talent? In the "fastest kid at fat camp" sense, yes.

But going from an F to D- isn't exactly cause for celebration.

In 2011 we ranked 13th in points allowed, the Falcons ranked 18th, and we swept you as well.

Looks like that fat kid kicked your ass, stole your lunch, and had his way with your girlfriend.

Danno 07-23-2013 04:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Spot on Dtan (Post 512328)
LOL.

When will you homers learn.

Turning around and bashing the Falcons isn't a cogent response.

I myself want a lot of changes in Flowery Branch.

But "Bwaaah! The falcons are bad too!" is not appropriate defense of your Saints' various inadequacies.

Not using your birds as justification, I just enjoy laughing at their expense. Its fun.

And pointing out that we had the 13th ranked defense in 2011 doesn't have much to do with the Falcons. It simply points out how we weren't the "F" team you suggested.

I can see comprehension, much like Falcon postseason success, is still a mystery you.

|Mitch| 07-23-2013 04:03 PM

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Danno; might as well leave it alone... You can't win arguing against ignorance...

rezburna 07-23-2013 04:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Spot on Dtan (Post 512328)
LOL.

When will you homers learn.

Turning around and bashing the Falcons isn't a cogent response.

I myself want a lot of changes in Flowery Branch.

But "Bwaaah! The falcons are bad too!" is not appropriate defense of your Saints' various inadequacies.

The Saints defense of 2012 was inadequate. However, we've improved at every level of the defense. Akiem Hicks did well as a rookie, and should be an improvement. Cam Jordan had 8 sacks and was excellent against the run. Now he's back in the 3-4. Broderick Bunkley was the #1 rated DT when he played in the 3-4. We drafted John Jenkins, a 1st round talent from Georgia.

We have two tremendous leaders in Curtis Lofton and Johnathan Vilma. Junior Gallette and Martez Wilson have both proven to be able to get to the QB, racking up sacks in back up roles.

We drafted Kenny Vacarro and signed Keenan Lewis, as well as returning to a man to man scheme which will greatly benefit Pat Robinson and Jabari Greer. We're now running a system that better fits out personnel.

So, with al that said, its more then safe to say the defense will improve. We won a Super Bow with a lot of these players, and actually have a much more talented defensive roster then we did when we won it all.

You couple that with the fact our offense will more then likely be top 3 as always and you have a dangerous team. Just like we've been for the past 7 or 8 years.

Now you have the Falcons, who got weaker on the o-line and secondary. Then replaces their best pass rusher with a washed up, never healthy Osi Umenyiora, who I don't believe was even a starter on the Giants last year. So if you believe the Falcons can win it all, there's no reason to doubt the Saints, whom have the Falcons number. If you aren't a "homer" you can't deny that either.

Danno 07-23-2013 04:10 PM

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Danno; might as well leave it alone... You can't win arguing against ignorance...

Not trying to win anything. I just like exposing the flaws in an obviously arrogant troll's posts.

I'm an obsessive corrector.

RaginCajun83 07-23-2013 04:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Spot on Dtan (Post 512292)
Never said they were anything to write home about.

Attacking the Falcons (of whom I am amply critical) does nothing other than assuage your own fears.

Fear of what? A team that will fold like a wet paper bag come playoff time or a team whose defense has the worst secondary in their division and that's including the Saints own red headed step child twins at safety. Continue to think the Falcons are actually in the Saints league and come see us come January, where the Saints will have HFA and the Falcons will be at home

Danno 07-23-2013 04:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Spot on Dtan (Post 512342)
Your argument would be valid, if last season was 2011.

It would be valid for 2012 if we had a head coach and a competent DC, as we did in 2011, which was the point you failed to comprehend.

Danno 07-23-2013 04:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Spot on Dtan (Post 512361)
Yeah, missing your "offensive guru" head coach really hurt your defense, right?

And guess what? While I'll give you that DC wasn't great,

You can't discount the fact that you're trotting out so many of the same guys.

Again, some of those same guys played on the 2011 defense that finished ranked 13th. And we have much beter talent now than we did then.

Why are you having trouble comprehending a point that everyone else understands?

Danno 07-23-2013 04:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Spot on Dtan (Post 512370)
The guys are either 2 years older or gone.

Why is that so hard to understand?

Hence the "we now have more talent" comment.;)

The only old players we have are Vilma (if you consider 31 old) and Smith. The vast majority are up and coming or still in their prime.

Mr.Riaton 07-23-2013 05:02 PM

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Originally Posted by RaginCajun83 (Post 511679)
Before something like this would get under my skin, now I really don't care what anyone in print, radio or tv has to say about the Saints or any players for that matter including Brees. After last offseason, the media can kiss it and once again Jaws is trying to hitch his wagon to the next best thing. I'm actually surprised he didn't go 4. Brees, 3. Brady, 2. Manning, 1. Rodgers like I'm sure 99.99999 % of the hacks would do

......you probably could have just said 100%! lol

|Mitch| 07-23-2013 05:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Spot on Dtan (Post 512370)
The guys are either 2 years older or gone.

Let's see: Galette, Wilson, Robinson, Jenkins, Quddus, Jordan and Humber are just hitting their prime since the 2011 season...

Then you have Greer, Smith, Harper, and Vilma who maybe on the downside of their career but who are still very capable players...

That's pretty much the whole starting defense, your argument is invalid

rezburna 07-23-2013 05:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Spot on Dtan (Post 512352)
And there's the hole.

Point to one place on these boards or any other where I've said the Falcons are legitimate contenders.

I've said it many times.

Cam Newton is already the best player in the division.

Panthers will take the South and win a playoff game unless they run up against SF, SEA, or possibly WAS.

Cam Newton isn't even the best QUARTERBACK in the division. Yes, he's dangerous. But give me a break. Best player? LMAO. Not to mention his only target is Steve Smith; and they're secondary is horrible in a division where the two best teams air it out all day.

AllSaints 07-23-2013 05:29 PM

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he gets on my nerves.....

|Mitch| 07-23-2013 05:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Spot on Dtan (Post 512381)
Obviously if you ignore history

What's the Saints record against the Falcons since '06 again?

Seems like you're the one ignoring all the history and facts but I guess trolling an enemy board makes you feel better about yourself and your team?

Or were you referring to last year when you say "history"? Which even then we stopped your undefeated streak without a head-coach. Talk about owned :bng:

Seer1 07-23-2013 08:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Spot on Dtan (Post 512352)
And there's the hole.

Point to one place on these boards or any other where I've said the Falcons are legitimate contenders.

I've said it many times.

Cam Newton is already the best player in the division.

Panthers will take the South and win a playoff game unless they run up against SF, SEA, or possibly WAS.

Hahaha! Or NO, NYG, AZ, GB, Minn, Det, St.Lou, or Dallas. Too bad the Browns are in the AFC and the Bucs won't make the playoffs.

Hey, sometimes it's fun to feed trolls when they're here from the Department of Ass Hattery.

saintsfan1976 07-23-2013 08:19 PM

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Fat camp, huh?

As miserable as the Saints season was last year, they still managed to split with the Falcons.

NO matter what, the Falcons will always be a step behind Sean Payton.

Welcome back to being the slower Fat kid.

westbankdaze 07-24-2013 12:44 PM

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Rofl this thread was dead and came back to life in the form of a zombie troll lol.

Everyone thinks I'm nuts but i think we got a damn good shot at getting back to the bowl this year. Last year was an anomaly in our history.

Seer1 07-24-2013 01:31 PM

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Zombie troll or have we finally received our village idiot? If you can imagine village idiots being on backorder...


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