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|Mitch| 07-30-2013 02:42 AM

Re: 1st Round Pick Draft Suckage
 
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Originally Posted by Spot on Dtan (Post 513898)
Anyone who saw Roman Harper in pass coverage knows that KV was the right pick.

But anyone who saw him in 2011 when we were still running GWs man coverage saw him grab 7.5 sacks.

Funny; we're going back to a very similar system... And now with Vaccaro in the mix; there will be times that all 3 safeties are on the field at the same time and Harper will most likely be blitzing at will :bng:

thebdj 07-30-2013 06:21 AM

Re: 1st Round Pick Draft Suckage
 
And the debate can re-ignite about moving Harper to OLB ... Could he do a role there? He did it from Safety on the blitz and he sucks in pass coverage so with a couple of men going down this is a very viable offering :)

jeanpierre 07-30-2013 06:30 AM

Re: 1st Round Pick Draft Suckage
 
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Originally Posted by Danno (Post 513587)
I don't think I've ever been as fired up about one of our 1st round picks as I am about this young man.

I'm totally out of control. I'm seeing Ed Reed and Troy Polamalu all rolled into one. :dance:

"et tu Brute"?!? Thought we could count on you for a little cynicism and temperance in expectations of the rookie...

jeanpierre 07-30-2013 06:34 AM

Re: 1st Round Pick Draft Suckage
 
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Originally Posted by |Mitch| (Post 513904)
But anyone who saw him in 2011 when we were still running GWs man coverage saw him grab 7.5 sacks.

Funny; we're going back to a very similar system... And now with Vaccaro in the mix; there will be times that all 3 safeties are on the field at the same time and Harper will most likely be blitzing at will :bng:

Mitch, a safety, a defensive back, should have a primary responsibility of coverage. 7.5 Sacks in how many plays in a season vs the mistackles, blown coverages, poor angles?!? As rare as they've been for this defense the last seven years, I'd give up the sacks by a safety for better coverage, better tackling, and a better turnover rate and let the front seven make the Sacks...

jeanpierre 07-30-2013 06:37 AM

Re: 1st Round Pick Draft Suckage
 
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Originally Posted by CheramieIII (Post 513892)
jordan is working out so far but kenny is going to be a yeti. i was going to say beast but the word is often over used in athletic discussions.

kenny the yeti the artic beast

Yeti?!? His Size?!?

Prefer a velociraptor, no fear, intelligent, fierce, fast, cunning, deadly, yeah, a velociraptor...

thebdj 07-30-2013 07:02 AM

Re: 1st Round Pick Draft Suckage
 
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Originally Posted by jeanpierre (Post 513919)
Yeti?!? His Size?!?

Prefer a velociraptor, no fear, intelligent, fierce, fast, cunning, deadly, yeah, a velociraptor...

Does this mean that every time he breaks up a pass or makes an Interception I can use the quote 'Clever Girl' :)

I'm assuming everyone will get that JP reference haha

|Mitch| 07-30-2013 07:41 AM

Re: 1st Round Pick Draft Suckage
 
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Originally Posted by jeanpierre (Post 513918)
Mitch, a safety, a defensive back, should have a primary responsibility of coverage. 7.5 Sacks in how many plays in a season vs the mistackles, blown coverages, poor angles?!? As rare as they've been for this defense the last seven years, I'd give up the sacks by a safety for better coverage, better tackling, and a better turnover rate and let the front seven make the Sacks...

Um; isn't that the reason Vaccaro was drafted?! I want my cake and eat it too, let Harper return to multiple sacks a season and Vaccaro can handle the pass coverage

Danno 07-30-2013 07:55 AM

Re: 1st Round Pick Draft Suckage
 
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Originally Posted by |Mitch| (Post 513904)
But anyone who saw him in 2011 when we were still running GWs man coverage saw him grab 7.5 sacks.

Funny; we're going back to a very similar system... And now with Vaccaro in the mix; there will be times that all 3 safeties are on the field at the same time and Harper will most likely be blitzing at will :bng:

Its not simply blitzing. Its playing that traditional SS role that plays close to the line to support the LB's and cover that short to intermediate zone.

Harper did that very well and thats what he received that huge contract for.

Fifteen yards and in is where Harper shines. Outside of that 15 yards is when he gets into trouble, like most SS's do.

The real headscratcher was Jenkins. He seemed ideal for that deep centerfield saftey spot Spags runs. I'll chalk his down year up to the Spags disaster too.


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