3-4 101: The Basics
 

The New Orleans Saints are switching to a 3-4 defense under defensive coordinator Rob Ryan. You probably already knew that. What you might not know (outside of now there will be four linebackers on the field instead of three) is what exactly is the 3-4 defense? Why will it make us a better defense?

Well your friends at Who Dat Dish have you covered. We will be rolling out a “3-4 101″ article series to bring you up to speed on the new defense, the different roles of the players, and most importantly how it will make our defense better.

Right out the gate, let me tell you that the 3-4 defense is complicated. There are a couple different variations that have been tweaked by many great defensive coaches throughout NFL history and several different terms that mean exactly the same thing. We will stick to the Ryan 3-4 defense as much possible for the sake of clarity.

The 3-4 defense consists of three down linemen; the two defensive ends and a nose tackle. Their regular job is to engage as many offensive linemen and try to diagnose the play so they can make the defensive stop.These guys are normally larger defensive ends or defensive tackles depending on the team’s personnel.

Next are the four linebackers who play a variety of different roles and are therefore the most versatile players on the defense. They may be asked to blitz, stunt (a blitz meant to confuse offensive linemen on a passing play), play zone pass coverage, and sometimes play man coverage. Speed, athleticism, and size are great traits for a 3-4 linebacker.

The secondary in the 3-4 is lined up in their traditional spots with the corners across from the wide receivers and the strong safety and free safety behind the linebackers.

The corners play man-coverage in the Ryan scheme with some zone coverage mixed in. The strong safety acts like an extra linebacker at times and can creep into the box to blitz on certain plays. The free safety helps corners cover deep passing plays.

In theory, the 3-4 defense is strong against the run and weak against the pass. It all depends on each defensive coordinator’s philosophy in implementing the defense and the personnel on the field.

3-4 101: The Basics - Who Dat Dish

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So if we have a 3 man front and the NT is lined up over the guard, the centre has a clear path to MLB, which is what made vilma struggle with the jets, getting off blocks.

Lets hope he and lofton can make a great duo in the middle

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That's just enough to upset all our Harper haters :bng:

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Vilma went over this in his presser. He kept talking about the stunts and shading they would be doing to protect the LBs. And someone like Jenkins and/or Hicks will require double teams to block properly...

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In contrast to the true 2-gap 3-4, there’s no clear “bubble” in a 1-gap front. The strongside end slides down in the guard-tackle gap and the nose tackle slants to the weakside center-guard gap. The weakside end may or may not be head-up on the tackle, sometimes aligning in a 5-technique. Moving the defensive lineman just a few inches changes the philosophy entirely. The diagram above shows an under-shifted 3-4, but over-shifted 3-4 fronts are also common.

It’s clear that the two inside linebackers can be, if the linemen are disruptive at all, better protected from the blocks of interior linemen. You can see the lines of attack for a delayed ILB blitz or how each OLB might get a jump by shifting one defensive end to the outside of an offensive tackle.

The under-shifted 3-4 front, with or without a 2-gap end, is just one of many potential variations a coordinator may align for his front seven. In fact, a coach influenced by both flavors of the 3-4 might be tempted to meld both concepts with traditional 4-3 ideas and create a monster playbook with more than 50 fronts. And pull it off with amazing success.

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Thanks, Danno, for semi-clearing up some of the defensive concepts for dummies like me.

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I didn't know anything about the new 3-4's being used around the league until I read that article.

Its NOT like the 3-4 Mangini ran in New York that Vilma didn't care for.

BTW: Vilma still played OK in that 2-gap 3-4, he just didn't excel at it.

In the current 1-gap 3-4's Vilma is basically playing the equivalent of a 4-3 WLB.

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It's kinda crazy the kind of mismatches that can be created when shifts are implemented...

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In layman's terms,

The 3-4 under shifts a 1/2 gap to the weak side
The 3-4 over shifts a 1/2 gap to the strong side.

Also, this style 3-4 allows 1-gap penetrators to excel. Players like Jordan, Tom Johnson, Hicks can really cause havoc with their quickness.

It does reward attacking instead of just reading and reacting. Looks like it can also be a little feast or famine as well.

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I still would like to see someone with size and weight in the middle, the front 3 will have to play lights out for smaller ILB to do well.

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True, this article was 3 years old and they were projecting draft picks that best fit the 3-4 roles.

Guess who they identified as the ideal SILB for this type of defense?

Hint: He just dislocated his elbow.

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He does have the tools.

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Same here Danno.

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From the limited footage i have seen of camp our OLBs need to do a better job of setting the edge on running plays.

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...or make a complete disaster of this opportunity with too many plays...

...Ryan needs to keep it simple and throw in a few (less than five) wrinkles per week to keep the opposition honest...

...these guys get huge contracts because they're big, fast not because they can compute mathematical calculations of an artificial satellite orbit...

Ryan needs to realize that he's as smart as the guy that slept in a Holiday Inn Express...

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Great thread!


I can really only think of three guys at NT ... Wilfork (NE), Hampton (PIT) and Shaun Rogers (DET/CLE/NO/NYG/Gone) ... and how they exemplify the 'big-man-clogging-up-the-middle' philosophy of the 3-4.

We've all seen Rogers and what a bust he could be at tackle, but he did have some success at NT with Cleveland. Hampton and Wilfork are beasts, but of the three, Wilfork is the only one that really stays healthy, but therein lies the rub.

These guys are big, but are they "in-shape" big or "outta'-shape" big? They take lots of abuse as well, not only from opposing lineman, but just from moving those 300lb+ frames around.

You need to find a guy that can carry the weight and not have to come to the sidelines every third play for oxygen. Or maybe a couple guys to share the load.

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during practice yesterday, pre-snap Jordan was only lineman with hand on the ground lined up between center and guard, then right before the snap Will Smith shifts down to DE so they still had 3 LBs out there plus 6 DBs (4 Ss). I like it but Rob might be tipping his hand just a little

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The Dome Patrol was 2-gap, right?

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Yep

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Not Eric Martin? :clown:

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Damn I just hope they are ready for Atlanta week one.