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Danno 08-29-2013 08:28 AM

My SWAG at the 53 man roster
 
My pre-cut down 53, sure to be wrong (I kinda went youth movement)

QB - Drew Brees
QB - Luke McCown

RB - Mark Ingram
RB - Darren Sproles
RB - Pierre Thomas
RB - Khiry Robinson (edges out Cadet)
FB - Jed Collins

WR - Marques Colston
WR - Lance Moore
WR - Kenny Stills
WR - Nick Toon
WR - Preston Parker
WR - Andy Tanner (edges out Roby)

TE - Jimmy Graham
TE - Benjamin Watson
TE - Mike Higgins

G - Jahri Evans
G - Ben Grubbs
C - Brian De La Puente
G - Tim Lelito (edges out Tiller)
G - Greg Olsen (I’m waffling with OT MJones)
OT - Terron Armstead
OT - Charles Brown
OT - Bryce Harris (edges out Jones)
OT - Zach Strief

DE - Glenn Foster
DE - Akiem Hicks
DE - Cameron Jordan
DE - Jay Richardson (edges out TJohnson)
DE - Tyrunn Walker

DT - John Jenkins
DT - Brodrick Bunkley

ILB - David Hawthorne
ILB - Ramon Humber
ILB - Curtis Lofton
ILB - Kevin Reddick (if Vilma is still hurt)

OLB - Junior Galette
OLB - Martez Wilson
OLB - Parys Haralson
OLB - Rufus Johnson (too much potential to cut)
OLB - Baraka Atkins (waffling, could be ILB Shipman)

CB - Rod Sweeting (edges out S Quddus)
CB - Jabari Greer
CB - Keenan Lewis
CB - Patrick Robinson
CB - Corey White

S - Rafael Bush (edges out Leonard, who will be re-signed later if necessary)
S - Roman Harper
S - Malcolm Jenkins
S - Kenny Vaccaro

PK - Garrett Hartley
P - Thomas Morstead
LS - Justin Drescher

Saintaintso 08-29-2013 08:56 AM

Re: My SWAG at the 53 man roster
 
Q-deuce is a stud ... I like him

ProMallNinja 08-29-2013 09:17 AM

Re: My SWAG at the 53 man roster
 
Since Richardson can play both DE & OLB, it wouldn't surprise me if that meant Quddus or Shipman over Atkins.

Danno 08-29-2013 09:17 AM

Re: My SWAG at the 53 man roster
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Saintaintso (Post 520997)
Q-deuce is a stud ... I like him

He's not doing so well this camp. He's running with the scrubs.

Danno 08-29-2013 09:21 AM

Re: My SWAG at the 53 man roster
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ProMallNinja (Post 521006)
Since Richardson can play both DE & OLB, it wouldn't surprise me if that meant Quddus or Shipman over Atkins.

Maybe so, if I made this last year Quddus would be a lock. He's just looked bad so far this year.

Atkins is one I'm not all that fired up about. I could could easily justify IAQ over Atkins based on his play last year.

I'll probably revise it before final cutdowns. I also keep thinking Marcel Jones makes it as a 5th OT over Lelito or Olsen as a 5th OG.

thebdj 08-29-2013 09:36 AM

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I think Jones edges out Olsen. I also think Quddus finds a way onto this 53. Could it be Sweeting that makes way for him?

Comfortable not seeing Ryan Griffin up there for obvious footballing reasons but if we waive him, we have got to be confident is he coming back in our practice squad! Can we not falsify an x-ray and put him on IR :)

Danno 08-29-2013 09:40 AM

Re: My SWAG at the 53 man roster
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by thebdj (Post 521015)
I think Jones edges out Olsen. I also think Quddus finds a way onto this 53. Could it be Sweeting that makes way for him?

Comfortable not seeing Ryan Griffin up there for obvious footballing reasons but if we waive him, we have got to be confident is he coming back in our practice squad! Can we not falsify an x-ray and put him on IR :)

Yeah, we may find out that Reddick, Sweeting, RJohnson, Griffin, Lelito, and Shipman all clear waiver and sign on to our practice squad.

We have a tendancy to over-value our fringe rookies.

thebdj 08-29-2013 09:49 AM

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I think that is largely a pre-season excitement and because we are seeing the squad as a whole. Hey if each of us had a penny for every player we saw and said 'he's gonna be big' who is now well and truly NOT in the NFL, I am guessing we would all be pretty rich :)

Lord_Saint83 08-29-2013 10:12 AM

Re: My SWAG at the 53 man roster
 
I agree with all of that but idk i have a feeling they will keep roby for some reason unknown to man and i think for robinson to edge out cadet he has to have a monster game tonight.


Who let this IRA mothersucker in my bar?

TheOak 08-29-2013 10:43 AM

Re: My SWAG at the 53 man roster
 
I am on board fully with Danno's scientific wild azzed guess.

Unless Robinson has shown then some reason of why he is not ready Cadet is gone. The contest will not be decided on skill as they are very close, the determining factor will be ball security, and Cadet has not given anyone warm fuzzies. The gorilla in the tent on the decisions on most ball handling positions is making the choice that will not hurt us in a turn over battle.

Roby is done. hate to say it but Tanner provides twice the value WR/ST...

Cruize 08-29-2013 11:19 AM

Re: My SWAG at the 53 man roster
 
QB - Brees, McNown, Griffin
RB - Ingram, Thomas, Sproles, Cadet
WR - Colston, Moore, Stills, Toon, Parker
TE - Graham, Watson, Higgins
OT - Brown, Strief, Armstead, Harris
OG - Evans, Grubbs, Jones, Lelito
C - DLP
(24)

DE - Jordan, Hicks, Foster
DT - Bunkley, Jenkins, Walker
OLB - Haralson, JR, Tez, Johnson, Richardson
MLB - Lofton, Humber, Hawthorne, Reddick
CB - Lewis, Greer, Robinson, Sweeting, White
S - Harper, Jenkins, Vaccaro, Bush
(24)

K- Hartley
P - Morstead
LS - Drescher

I can add two players to the above list. Vilma is at the top. He could be available, retire, go to either IR or the last choice of just being cut. T. Johnson is next. He's there because of his versatility on the DL. But, I've personally not seen anything from him when he's been healthy. Tanner/Roby are next. Tanner has more upside as a WR but Roby is better at special teams. Coach likes to throw the ball and probably will keep six. All of the WR's except Stills has injuries in their past. Colston hasn't played all preseason. I like IAQ but for whatever reason haven't seen much from him this preseason. Herring could make the squad due his versatility and because of all the injuries. Not a fan but they may be required to keep a slow, white, non-playmaking LB on the roster. LOL. I REALLY like how Warren has played a C this preseason, but I don't know if he can play another position. The staff likes Olsen but he's been injured and I think Lelito has outplayed him. K. Robinson can play RB in the NFL. With Cadet's ability at WR and on special teams, the Saints could keep 5 RB's and only 5 WR's. The recently signed Rolle could be a sleeper over White. I'm not convinced his roster spot is guaranteed. Especially with Vaccaro playing alot in the nickle. I also like what I've seen from CB Lindsey this preseason. He's always around the ball. Overall, since this is just an outside guess, the last 2 I'm going to keep is Johnson and Herring.

Danno 08-29-2013 12:06 PM

Re: My SWAG at the 53 man roster
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Cruize (Post 521034)
QB - Brees, McNown, Griffin
RB - Ingram, Thomas, Sproles, Cadet
WR - Colston, Moore, Stills, Toon, Parker
TE - Graham, Watson, Higgins
OT - Brown, Strief, Armstead, Harris
OG - Evans, Grubbs, Jones, Lelito
C - DLP
(24)

DE - Jordan, Hicks, Foster
DT - Bunkley, Jenkins, Walker
OLB - Haralson, JR, Tez, Johnson, Richardson
MLB - Lofton, Humber, Hawthorne, Reddick
CB - Lewis, Greer, Robinson, Sweeting, White
S - Harper, Jenkins, Vaccaro, Bush
(24)

K- Hartley
P - Morstead
LS - Drescher

I can add two players to the above list. Vilma is at the top. He could be available, retire, go to either IR or the last choice of just being cut. T. Johnson is next. He's there because of his versatility on the DL. But, I've personally not seen anything from him when he's been healthy. Tanner/Roby are next. Tanner has more upside as a WR but Roby is better at special teams. Coach likes to throw the ball and probably will keep six. All of the WR's except Stills has injuries in their past. Colston hasn't played all preseason. I like IAQ but for whatever reason haven't seen much from him this preseason. Herring could make the squad due his versatility and because of all the injuries. Not a fan but they may be required to keep a slow, white, non-playmaking LB on the roster. LOL. I REALLY like how Warren has played a C this preseason, but I don't know if he can play another position. The staff likes Olsen but he's been injured and I think Lelito has outplayed him. K. Robinson can play RB in the NFL. With Cadet's ability at WR and on special teams, the Saints could keep 5 RB's and only 5 WR's. The recently signed Rolle could be a sleeper over White. I'm not convinced his roster spot is guaranteed. Especially with Vaccaro playing alot in the nickle. I also like what I've seen from CB Lindsey this preseason. He's always around the ball. Overall, since this is just an outside guess, the last 2 I'm going to keep is Johnson and Herring.

What may happen is that all of these bottom of the roster guys may be filled with special teams standouts.

We may find that Parker, Roby, Herring, Bush, IAQ, Carr, Cadet and Robinson all make the 53 in order to help a really bad looking special teams unit.

TheOak 08-29-2013 12:13 PM

Re: My SWAG at the 53 man roster
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Cruize (Post 521034)
QB - Brees, McNown, Griffin
RB - Ingram, Thomas, Sproles, Cadet
WR - Colston, Moore, Stills, Toon, Parker
TE - Graham, Watson, Higgins
OT - Brown, Strief, Armstead, Harris
OG - Evans, Grubbs, Jones, Lelito
C - DLP
(24)

DE - Jordan, Hicks, Foster
DT - Bunkley, Jenkins, Walker
OLB - Haralson, JR, Tez, Johnson, Richardson
MLB - Lofton, Humber, Hawthorne, Reddick
CB - Lewis, Greer, Robinson, Sweeting, White
S - Harper, Jenkins, Vaccaro, Bush
(24)

K- Hartley
P - Morstead
LS - Drescher

I can add two players to the above list. Vilma is at the top. He could be available, retire, go to either IR or the last choice of just being cut. T. Johnson is next. He's there because of his versatility on the DL. But, I've personally not seen anything from him when he's been healthy. Tanner/Roby are next. Tanner has more upside as a WR but Roby is better at special teams. Coach likes to throw the ball and probably will keep six. All of the WR's except Stills has injuries in their past. Colston hasn't played all preseason. I like IAQ but for whatever reason haven't seen much from him this preseason. Herring could make the squad due his versatility and because of all the injuries. Not a fan but they may be required to keep a slow, white, non-playmaking LB on the roster. LOL. I REALLY like how Warren has played a C this preseason, but I don't know if he can play another position. The staff likes Olsen but he's been injured and I think Lelito has outplayed him. K. Robinson can play RB in the NFL. With Cadet's ability at WR and on special teams, the Saints could keep 5 RB's and only 5 WR's. The recently signed Rolle could be a sleeper over White. I'm not convinced his roster spot is guaranteed. Especially with Vaccaro playing alot in the nickle. I also like what I've seen from CB Lindsey this preseason. He's always around the ball. Overall, since this is just an outside guess, the last 2 I'm going to keep is Johnson and Herring.

QB's - I do not see us carrying 3 QBs, never have and probably never will
WR's -We have always carried 6 WR so you can drop a QB and add a WR with out changing the gray areas if the final 2.
FB ~ You may have missed that

Not trying to nit pick i just wasn't sure how you had some extra spots.

Jack Vegas 08-29-2013 12:14 PM

Re: My SWAG at the 53 man roster
 
I'll take a shot at it

QB - Brees
QB - McCown
QB - Griffin

RB - Thomas
RB - Sproles
RB - Ingram
FB - Collins

WR - Colston
WR - Moore
WR - Stills
WR - Toon
WR - Parker
WR - Tanner

TE - Graham
TE - Watson
TE - Higgins

OL - Brown
OL - Grubbs
OL - De la Puente
OL - Evans
OL - Strief
OL - Armstead
OL - Olsen
OL - Harris

DL - Hicks
DL - Jordan
DL - Bunkley
DL - Jenkins
DL - Foster
DL - Walker
DL - Johnson
DL/LB - Richardson

LB - Lofton
LB - Hawthorne
LB - Vilma
LB - Humber
LB - Wilson
LB - Galette
LB - Haralson
LB - Atkins

CB - Greer
CB - Lewis
CB - Robinson
CB - White

S - Vaccarro
S - Jenkins
S - Harper
S - Quddus
S - Bush

K - Hartley
P - Morestead
LS - Drescher

PS - Sweeting, Robinson, R. Johnson, Reddick, Shipman, Lelito, Milton, Tiller

Some rationales:

-3 running backs, yes. Do we really need 4? Robinson on the PS if needed. Trade Cadet for a 6/7 round pick if you can.
-4 CBs, but Jenkins doubles as a CB all the time anyway. As above, Sweeting on the PS if needed.
-QBs, I really don't think Griffin would make it through waivers to the PS
-DL, nothing too crazy, Richardson gets a spot because of his versatility
-LB, went back and forth with Herring, decided Humber makes him expendable.
-OL, only keeping 8, something we've done before but 2 on the PS for emergencies

|Mitch| 08-29-2013 01:30 PM

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Everyone realizes that 53 players is including the practice squad? We can only dress 46 on game-days, the rest are practice squad players.

TheOak 08-29-2013 01:40 PM

Re: My SWAG at the 53 man roster
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by |Mitch| (Post 521071)
Everyone realizes that 53 players is including the practice squad? We can only dress 46 on game-days, the rest are practice squad players.

53 does not include practice squad. 46 + 7 = 53

53 = Active roster
46 = Can dress out and play
8-9 = Practice squad (Scout team) (9th allowed only if he lives outside of the US)


So we end up with 53+ 8 on the practice squad for a total of 61, the cut off date for the 75 was Tuesday so we are there now... Expect 14 players to be gone by Sat @6pm E. This is why all of preseason ends tonight.

Cruize 08-29-2013 03:00 PM

Re: My SWAG at the 53 man roster
 
I definitely missed the FB. Sorry Mr. Collins. LOL. My thoughts on Griffin is that he deserves to be on the roster. His value is not great this year, but it will be next year and beyond. The Raiders are horrible, don't have a QB, and saw Griffin first hand during the preseason. I don't think the Saints can slide him by them onto the practice squad. The Saints have mostly always had six WR's on the roster. On gameday they've also only played with 4 active at times. Graham is like a WR. Cadet has the skills and plays special teams. Payton even split PT out in the last preseason game. To me, Tanner and Roby just don't bring enough to deserve a roster spot. They'll keep an extra defensive player over a 6th WR this year in my opinion. Otherwise, it will be Griffin getting cut for that spot.

Budsdrinker 08-29-2013 03:51 PM

Re: My SWAG at the 53 man roster
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by TheOak (Post 521078)
53 does not include practice squad. 46 + 7 = 53

53 = Active roster
46 = Can dress out and play
8-9 = Practice squad (Scout team) (9th allowed only if he lives outside of the US)

Scout team - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

So we end up with 53+ 8 on the practice squad for a total of 61, the cut off date for the 75 was Tuesday so we are there now... Expect 14 players to be gone by Sat @6pm E. This is why all of preseason ends tonight.

Technically 22 players have to be cut then if they pass through waivers then you can sign 8 to the PS.

saintfan 08-29-2013 04:00 PM

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TheOak 08-29-2013 04:02 PM

Re: My SWAG at the 53 man roster
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Budsdrinker (Post 521127)
Technically 22 players have to be cut then if they pass through waivers then you can sign 8 to the PS.

Good call. I hadn't read up on that little bit of the process.

homerj07 08-29-2013 05:42 PM

Re: My SWAG at the 53 man roster
 
Not sure we need a third TE on the roster. On the PS sure.

Danno 08-30-2013 12:50 PM

Re: My SWAG at the 53 man roster
 
My final stab at it. Tanner out, Roby in. Tiller out, Jones in.

QB - Drew Brees
QB - Luke McCown

RB - Mark Ingram
RB - Khiry Robinson
RB - Darren Sproles
RB - Pierre Thomas
FB - Jed Collins

WR - Marques Colston
WR - Lance Moore
WR - Preston Parker
WR - Kenny Stills
WR - Courtney Roby
WR - Nick Toon

TE - Jimmy Graham
TE - Mike Higgins
TE - Benjamin Watson

C - Brian De La Puente
G - Tim Lelito
G - Jahri Evans
G - Ben Grubbs

OT - Marcel Jones
OT - Terron Armstead
OT - Charles Brown
OT - Bryce Harris
OT - Zach Strief


DE - Glenn Foster
DE - Akiem Hicks
DE - Cameron Jordan
DE - Jay Richardson
DE - Tyrunn Walker
DT - John Jenkins
DT - Brodrick Bunkley

ILB - David Hawthorne
ILB - Ramon Humber
ILB - Curtis Lofton
ILB - Jonathan Vilma (Reddick if Vilma IR'd)

OLB - Junior Galette
OLB - Rufus Johnson
OLB - Parys Haralson
OLB - Baraka Atkins
OLB - Martez Wilson

CB - Rod Sweeting
CB - Jabari Greer
CB - Keenan Lewis
CB - Patrick Robinson
CB - Corey White

S - Rafael Bush
S - Roman Harper
S - Malcolm Jenkins
S - Kenny Vaccaro

PK - Garrett Hartley
P - Thomas Morstead
LS - Justin Drescher

halloween 65 08-30-2013 01:02 PM

Re: My SWAG at the 53 man roster
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Danno (Post 521370)
My final stab at it. Tanner out, Roby in. Tiller out, Jones in.

QB - Drew Brees
QB - Luke McCown

RB - Mark Ingram
RB - Khiry Robinson
RB - Darren Sproles
RB - Pierre Thomas
FB - Jed Collins

WR - Marques Colston
WR - Lance Moore
WR - Preston Parker
WR - Kenny Stills
WR - Courtney Roby
WR - Nick Toon

TE - Jimmy Graham
TE - Mike Higgins
TE - Benjamin Watson

C - Brian De La Puente
G - Tim Lelito
G - Jahri Evans
G - Ben Grubbs

OT - Marcel Jones
OT - Terron Armstead
OT - Charles Brown
OT - Bryce Harris
OT - Zach Strief


DE - Glenn Foster
DE - Akiem Hicks
DE - Cameron Jordan
DE - Jay Richardson
DE - Tyrunn Walker
DT - John Jenkins
DT - Brodrick Bunkley

ILB - David Hawthorne
ILB - Ramon Humber
ILB - Curtis Lofton
ILB - Jonathan Vilma (Reddick if Vilma IR'd)

OLB - Junior Galette
OLB - Rufus Johnson
OLB - Parys Haralson
OLB - Baraka Atkins
OLB - Martez Wilson

CB - Rod Sweeting
CB - Jabari Greer
CB - Keenan Lewis
CB - Patrick Robinson
CB - Corey White

S - Rafael Bush
S - Roman Harper
S - Malcolm Jenkins
S - Kenny Vaccaro

PK - Garrett Hartley
P - Thomas Morstead
LS - Justin Drescher

I sure would like to see Tez in the middle with Hawthorn. I feel Vilma is going to be a all around liability, especially if him and Lofton start. Lofton will get picked on time and time again in the passing game. It's going to be bad in the flats on that side.

Danno 08-30-2013 01:03 PM

Re: My SWAG at the 53 man roster
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by halloween 65 (Post 521379)
I sure would like to see Tez in the middle with Hawthorn. I feel Vilma is going to be a all around liability, especially if him and Lofton start. Lofton will get picked on time and time again in the passing game. It's going to be bad in the flats on that side.

Martez is needed outside right now, but I agree his best position is probably ILB.

Rugby Saint II 08-30-2013 03:20 PM

Re: My SWAG at the 53 man roster
 
The thing is if we place a valued player on the PS and if they get an offer we can match it and put them on the 53.........which means someone's getting cut. I would be worried about my spot if I was a fringe roster player.

triman 08-30-2013 10:14 PM

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If Tanner is close to Roby as a ST player he makes it because he is a much better WR.


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