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jagcatdad 09-02-2013 10:23 PM
Captains Dinner was tonight!
 
Anyone know who our captains are yet?

jeanpierre 09-02-2013 10:42 PM
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Offense Brees, Strief
Defense Vilma, Jenkins
Specialist Thomas Morstead

blackangold 09-02-2013 11:06 PM
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Vilma? really...

The guy will ride the bench for the majority of the season...even when he comes back week 3 he'll get injured again sometime. I wanted to see Cam Jordan as a captain.

Luda34 09-02-2013 11:16 PM
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Jenkins he has the worst attitude on the team

Jack Vegas 09-03-2013 12:05 AM
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Says who? That's ridiculous.

|Mitch| 09-03-2013 01:07 AM
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Originally Posted by Luda34 (Post 522702)
Jenkins he has the worst attitude on the team
Seriously? How would you know? You do understand that the captains are appointed by the players?

Crusader 09-03-2013 01:25 AM
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Congrats to Morstead! That is well earned.

dizzle88 09-03-2013 04:16 AM
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Defensive captain should have been Cam Jordan

Captains lead by example and Cam jordan is probably the best player on our D at the moment

skymike 09-03-2013 05:37 AM
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Morgan?
Crunch?
D?

TheOak 09-03-2013 06:58 AM
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Vilma..... So Captains lead remotely?

jeanpierre 09-03-2013 08:16 AM
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Originally Posted by TheOak (Post 522739)
Vilma..... So Captains lead remotely?
I'm sure that's subject to change...

SaintsBro 09-03-2013 09:41 AM
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Considering that Jonathan Vilma went to the wall for the team and refused the blindfold and the cigarette, and did not give up the fight for one second, even when everything was seemingly stacked impossibly against him, I think he's an extremely viable leadership option for the defense....especially with a so-called "youth movement" of young, inexperienced players underway. He's seen it all, he's also battled his way through injuries and comebacks and never quit fighting, which is a great lesson to younger inexperienced players in their first few seasons.

Another thing: I would absolutely be stoked to have Vilma to be a captain (or preferably, co-captain) of the defense, because: if the Saints defense turns around and votes Vilma team captain, it will SURELY piss off Roger Goodell. It will fly in the face of everything he tried to do to us last year. It's like poking a finger right in his eye. And that's something to cheer about.

It also sends a signal, that the Saints are re-open for business. Will Smith is still there (technically at least), Jonathan Vilma is still there, Sean Payton is still there, Mickey Loomis is still there....Nobody got fired. All that stuff that Goodell tried to do to us, his personal vendettas, trying to get our people fired, or trying to force the team to make staff changes, by punishing the fans....NONE of it really worked.... with Vilma back on the sidelines with a big "C" on his jersey, it's like the team is willfully sticking it to Goodell, from when he tried to teach the Saints a lesson or put us in our place, tried to say this man was a bad man. Because there was never any real evidence and we didn't really do anything wrong in the first place. So stick that in your pipe Roger, and smoke it.

TheOak 09-03-2013 09:49 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by SaintsBro (Post 522774)
Considering that Jonathan Vilma went to the wall for the team and refused the blindfold and the cigarette, and did not give up the fight for one second, even when everything was seemingly stacked impossibly against him, I think he's an extremely viable leadership option for the defense....especially with a so-called "youth movement" of young, inexperienced players underway. He's seen it all, he's also battled his way through injuries and comebacks and never quit fighting, which is a great lesson to younger inexperienced players in their first few seasons.

Another thing: I would absolutely be stoked to have Vilma to be a captain (or preferably, co-captain) of the defense, because: if the Saints defense turns around and votes Vilma team captain, it will SURELY piss off Roger Goodell. It will fly in the face of everything he tried to do to us last year. It's like poking a finger right in his eye. And that's something to cheer about.

It also sends a signal, that the Saints are re-open for business. Will Smith is still there (technically at least), Jonathan Vilma is still there, Sean Payton is still there, Mickey Loomis is still there....Nobody got fired. All that stuff that Goodell tried to do to us, his personal vendettas, trying to get our people fired, or trying to force the team to make staff changes, by punishing the fans....NONE of it really worked.... with Vilma back on the sidelines with a big "C" on his jersey, it's like the team is willfully sticking it to Goodell, from when he tried to teach the Saints a lesson or put us in our place, tried to say this man was a bad man. Because there was never any real evidence and we didn't really do anything wrong in the first place. So stick that in your pipe Roger, and smoke it.
Thats fine. However, if he is injured and can not be on the field for Atlanta he is providing zero leadership at a time, and in a game where we need it.

This is no knock on Vilma, but Vilma went up against the all for Vilma as he should have. The team was penalized money and draft picks and there is absolutely nothing the players could have done to reverse that, or Sean Payton's punishment. They were fighting for their careers within a process that didnt allow a fight.

Jack Vegas 09-03-2013 09:54 AM
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Ya'll act like a captain's patch is some magical thing that bestows leadership and without it nobody else can be a leader. Those things didn't even exist 5 or 6 years ago so who cares? It's completely honorary.

Having said that, Vilma deserves to be a captain on this team. If he is not able to play, then somebody like Jordan, Lofton or Greer will take it on.

TheOak 09-03-2013 11:30 AM
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Ever hear of Dean Derby? Dean was the Steelers’ defensive captain and defensive signal caller from 1957 to 1961.

How about Ron McDole? Defensive team captain in 64-65 for the Bills.

Did you mean 50 or 60 years ago?

There were team captains before the NFL Officially recognized them in 2007... Sort of like there were bounties before 2009.

If you do not care why are you replying? We are trying to have a conversation here.

neugey 09-03-2013 11:46 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Jack Vegas (Post 522779)
Ya'll act like a captain's patch is some magical thing that bestows leadership and without it nobody else can be a leader. Those things didn't even exist 5 or 6 years ago so who cares? It's completely honorary.

Having said that, Vilma deserves to be a captain on this team. If he is not able to play, then somebody like Jordan, Lofton or Greer will take it on.
Agreed. When it comes down to it, the only key thing a captain on the team can do that a non-captain cannot is call heads or tails.

TheOak 09-03-2013 11:47 AM
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On defense he is "usually" the signal caller.

SaintsBro 09-03-2013 11:55 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by TheOak (Post 522776)
Thats fine. However, if he is injured and can not be on the field for Atlanta he is providing zero leadership at a time, and in a game where we need it.
You're right. Vilma is providing "zero" leadership at a time when we need it. Because clearly NO ONE has EVER given anybody leadership or inspiration or motivation at a football game, from the sidelines or in the locker room or on the bench, or in the film room during the week. It just NEVER happens. :rolleyes:

And thank you, Oak, for educating me: I had no idea that the team was fined or penalized with draft picks, :rolleyes: I didn't know Vilma was fighting for Vilma, :rolleyes: and thank you for explaining the complexity of the bounty situation to me yet again. :rolleyes: Your insights into the game are truly revelatory. I know I'm not the only Black and Gold poster here who appreciates your immense efforts and tireless hard work here in the forums, day in and day out, teaching and educating all of us Saints fans to be more educated, and making sure that no one is allowed to go astray.

RaginCajun83 09-03-2013 11:59 AM
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Good for Leg to become Special Teams Captain

TheOak 09-03-2013 12:01 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by SaintsBro (Post 522812)
You're right. Vilma is providing "zero" leadership at a time when we need it. Because clearly NO ONE has EVER given anybody leadership or inspiration or motivation at a football game, from the sidelines or in the locker room or on the bench, or in the film room during the week. It just NEVER happens. :rolleyes:

And thank you, Oak, for educating me: I had no idea that the team was fined or penalized with draft picks, :rolleyes: I didn't know Vilma was fighting for Vilma, :rolleyes: and thank you for explaining the complexity of the bounty situation to me yet again. :rolleyes: Your insights into the game are truly revelatory. I know I'm not the only Black and Gold poster here who appreciates your immense efforts and tireless hard work here in the forums, day in and day out, teaching and educating all of us Saints fans to be more educated, and making sure that no one is allowed to go astray.
Welcome brother!

thebdj 09-03-2013 12:03 PM
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Morstead is a wonderful pick. The guy lives and breathes Black and Gold and demonstrates to everyone just how fundamental a part of the game something like punting is!

Not to mention he wears cool t-shirts, constantly calls out the FailClowns and was an absolute beast on a couple of tackles last year as well!

Legend. Deserved.

Jack Vegas 09-03-2013 12:05 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by TheOak (Post 522798)
Ever hear of Dean Derby? Dean was the Steelers’ defensive captain and defensive signal caller from 1957 to 1961.

How about Ron McDole? Defensive team captain in 64-65 for the Bills.

Did you mean 50 or 60 years ago?

There were team captains before the NFL Officially recognized them in 2007... Sort of like there were bounties before 2009.

If you do not care why are you replying? We are trying to have a conversation here.
The point - since you were obviously too busy devising your usual obtuse and overaggressive jerk squad reaction to COMPREHEND WHAT YOU WERE READING - is that there are plenty of players capable of taking on a leadership role, whether Vilma is playing or not, and whether that player has a patch on his jersey or not.

I hope I have explained myself clearly enough this time so as not to have offended your oh-so delicate sensibilities and not have to put up with yet more ridiculous argumentative crap.

TheOak 09-03-2013 12:07 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Jack Vegas (Post 522816)
The point - since you were obviously too busy devising your usual obtuse and overaggressive jerk squad reaction to COMPREHEND WHAT YOU WERE READING - is that there are plenty of players capable of taking on a leadership role, whether Vilma is playing or not, and whether that player has a patch on his jersey or not.

I hope I have explained myself clearly enough this time so as not to have offended your oh-so delicate sensibilities and not have to put up with yet more ridiculous argumentative crap.
I'm pretty stocked

Rugby Saint II 09-03-2013 01:06 PM
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Isn't the special teams captain usually off the roster in a couple of years?
If so, it's time for some Cajun voo doo.

ProMallNinja 09-03-2013 01:16 PM
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http://img.tapatalk.com/d/13/09/04/suju6eqe.jpg

homerj07 09-03-2013 04:21 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by SaintsBro (Post 522812)
You're right. Vilma is providing "zero" leadership at a time when we need it. Because clearly NO ONE has EVER given anybody leadership or inspiration or motivation at a football game, from the sidelines or in the locker room or on the bench, or in the film room during the week. It just NEVER happens. :rolleyes:

And thank you, Oak, for educating me: I had no idea that the team was fined or penalized with draft picks, :rolleyes: I didn't know Vilma was fighting for Vilma, :rolleyes: and thank you for explaining the complexity of the bounty situation to me yet again. :rolleyes: Your insights into the game are truly revelatory. I know I'm not the only Black and Gold poster here who appreciates your immense efforts and tireless hard work here in the forums, day in and day out, teaching and educating all of us Saints fans to be more educated, and making sure that no one is allowed to go astray.
Damn - Sarcastic often??? :bng:

Utah_Saint 09-03-2013 04:54 PM
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Originally Posted by SaintsBro (Post 522812)
Your insights into the game are truly revelatory.
Dang, once again I need a dictionary, thesaurus and a compass to keep up.

I love this site.

Boutte 09-03-2013 07:24 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by SaintsBro (Post 522774)
Considering that Jonathan Vilma went to the wall for the team and refused the blindfold and the cigarette, and did not give up the fight for one second, even when everything was seemingly stacked impossibly against him, I think he's an extremely viable leadership option for the defense....especially with a so-called "youth movement" of young, inexperienced players underway. He's seen it all, he's also battled his way through injuries and comebacks and never quit fighting, which is a great lesson to younger inexperienced players in their first few seasons.

Another thing: I would absolutely be stoked to have Vilma to be a captain (or preferably, co-captain) of the defense, because: if the Saints defense turns around and votes Vilma team captain, it will SURELY piss off Roger Goodell. It will fly in the face of everything he tried to do to us last year. It's like poking a finger right in his eye. And that's something to cheer about.

It also sends a signal, that the Saints are re-open for business. Will Smith is still there (technically at least), Jonathan Vilma is still there, Sean Payton is still there, Mickey Loomis is still there....Nobody got fired. All that stuff that Goodell tried to do to us, his personal vendettas, trying to get our people fired, or trying to force the team to make staff changes, by punishing the fans....NONE of it really worked.... with Vilma back on the sidelines with a big "C" on his jersey, it's like the team is willfully sticking it to Goodell, from when he tried to teach the Saints a lesson or put us in our place, tried to say this man was a bad man. Because there was never any real evidence and we didn't really do anything wrong in the first place. So stick that in your pipe Roger, and smoke it.
Great great post! Especially the high lighted part.


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