Saints cheap shots on Matty Lice??

homerj07 · 09-08-2013, 07:05 PM

Ok taking joy in trolling the Clowns fan forums. One forum taking about a cheap shot on Ryan taken by a rookie (Vacaro?)

And another time Ryan was driven into the ground? Some of the Clown fans thought he might be injured.

I can not watch the game until it is on Rewind. Can anyone give me some insight here?

Oh, several Clown fans are ready to give up the whole season ,

|Mitch| · 09-08-2013, 07:08 PM

Vaccaro did get flagged, but he was already moving towards Ryan when Matt slid late...

The rest were just sacks or getting there right when he released the ball...

jlouhill · 09-08-2013, 07:09 PM

They are delusional as usual.

SaintGup · 09-08-2013, 07:12 PM

That win was just so sweet but yes, there was a cheap shot on Matt Ryan and I was annoyed because not only did it cost us 15 yards (well, half the distance to the goal) but I never condone anything that we would be mad about if it happened to Drew or any other of our players. And for those of you saying he was already on the way, not true. I dislike the Falcons as much as the next Who Dat but it was a cheap shot and they have a right to be peeved. It was the same I felt when, a few years ago, Roman Harper blatantly hit someone in the endzone when the ball was harmless, it cost us then too. He is a rookie but I hope the coaches tell him that that kind of play is not welcome.

lsutigerfan · 09-09-2013, 02:48 AM

Originally Posted by SaintGup

That win was just so sweet but yes, there was a cheap shot on Matt Ryan and I was annoyed because not only did it cost us 15 yards (well, half the distance to the goal) but I never condone anything that we would be mad about if it happened to Drew or any other of our players. And for those of you saying he was already on the way, not true. I dislike the Falcons as much as the next Who Dat but it was a cheap shot and they have a right to be peeved. It was the same I felt when, a few years ago, Roman Harper blatantly hit someone in the endzone when the ball was harmless, it cost us then too. He is a rookie but I hope the coaches tell him that that kind of play is not welcome.

I loved it, I thought that hit set the tone. That told every hey this isn't the same D as last year, you're not just going to do what you want there. It was worth the 15 yards.

Now if he does it again I might be upset. But at that moment that is something that needed to be done.

lsutigerfan · 09-09-2013, 02:50 AM

Originally Posted by SaintGup

That win was just so sweet but yes, there was a cheap shot on Matt Ryan and I was annoyed because not only did it cost us 15 yards (well, half the distance to the goal) but I never condone anything that we would be mad about if it happened to Drew or any other of our players. And for those of you saying he was already on the way, not true. I dislike the Falcons as much as the next Who Dat but it was a cheap shot and they have a right to be peeved. It was the same I felt when, a few years ago, Roman Harper blatantly hit someone in the endzone when the ball was harmless, it cost us then too. He is a rookie but I hope the coaches tell him that that kind of play is not welcome.

I loved it, I thought that hit set the tone. That told every hey this isn't the same D as last year, you're not just going to do what you want there. It was worth the 15 yards.

Now if he does it again I might be upset. But at that moment that is something that needed to be done.

No more Mr. nice guy on D.

homerj07 · 09-08-2013, 07:14 PM

Thanks.

cmike · 09-08-2013, 07:42 PM

I watched the game with a bunch of Falcons fans and they were upset. But after multiple replays they ALL agreed, hey what was Vaccaro to do. He was already going in to make the tackle and Matt slid just before the contact. It was a bang bang play. Should Vaccaro have been flagged? Yes. Was it dirty? Not sure. Judging by the play, it happened so fast that he just committed with his follow through.

I put more blame on Matt though, if your gonna slide get down sooner to protect yourself. Drew ran once and slide with no defender within 10 yards. Protect yourself Matt and stop trying to squeak out every yard.

Beastmode · 09-08-2013, 08:05 PM

Originally Posted by cmike

I put more blame on Matt though, if your gonna slide get down sooner to protect yourself. Drew ran once and slide with no defender within 10 yards. Protect yourself Matt and stop trying to squeak out every yard.

Peyton Manning was notorious for trying to squeeze out every last inch and basically crawl into the slide for a couple more yards. Either go down immediately or be prepared to get nailed penalty or no penalty.

I think the NFL changed the rule because of him that you are down where you start but not sure. Defenders should not have to pull back the second they go into the motion is how I see it. 30 degree angle or 5 degrees with the ground it should not matter. Until you are on the ground it's open season on the QB.

Vrillon82 · 09-08-2013, 08:56 PM

Originally Posted by Beastmode

Peyton Manning was notorious for trying to squeeze out every last inch and basically crawl into the slide for a couple more yards. Either go down immediately or be prepared to get nailed penalty or no penalty.

I think the NFL changed the rule because of him that you are down where you start but not sure. Defenders should not have to pull back the second they go into the motion is how I see it. 30 degree angle or 5 degrees with the ground it should not matter. Until you are on the ground it's open season on the QB.

You down where you start has been a rule for years, most likely enforced during the Steve Young years.

09-08-2013, 07:05 PM	#1
homerj07 In Doh We Trust Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Central Florida Posts: 7,027 Blog Entries: 16	Saints cheap shots on Matty Lice?? Ok taking joy in trolling the Clowns fan forums. One forum taking about a cheap shot on Ryan taken by a rookie (Vacaro?) And another time Ryan was driven into the ground? Some of the Clown fans thought he might be injured. I can not watch the game until it is on Rewind. Can anyone give me some insight here? Oh, several Clown fans are ready to give up the whole season ,

09-08-2013, 07:08 PM	#2
\|Mitch\| 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Alexandria, La Posts: 11,303	Re: Saints cheap shots on Matty Lice?? Vaccaro did get flagged, but he was already moving towards Ryan when Matt slid late... The rest were just sacks or getting there right when he released the ball... Halo likes this.

09-08-2013, 07:09 PM	#3
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09-08-2013, 07:12 PM	#4
SaintGup 500th Post Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: London, England Posts: 580	Re: Saints cheap shots on Matty Lice?? That win was just so sweet but yes, there was a cheap shot on Matt Ryan and I was annoyed because not only did it cost us 15 yards (well, half the distance to the goal) but I never condone anything that we would be mad about if it happened to Drew or any other of our players. And for those of you saying he was already on the way, not true. I dislike the Falcons as much as the next Who Dat but it was a cheap shot and they have a right to be peeved. It was the same I felt when, a few years ago, Roman Harper blatantly hit someone in the endzone when the ball was harmless, it cost us then too. He is a rookie but I hope the coaches tell him that that kind of play is not welcome. Halo, homerj07 and MaggieMayTB like this.

09-09-2013, 02:48 AM	#5
lsutigerfan 500th Post Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: born And raised in NOLA, now live in Los Angeles Posts: 811	Re: Saints cheap shots on Matty Lice?? Originally Posted by SaintGup That win was just so sweet but yes, there was a cheap shot on Matt Ryan and I was annoyed because not only did it cost us 15 yards (well, half the distance to the goal) but I never condone anything that we would be mad about if it happened to Drew or any other of our players. And for those of you saying he was already on the way, not true. I dislike the Falcons as much as the next Who Dat but it was a cheap shot and they have a right to be peeved. It was the same I felt when, a few years ago, Roman Harper blatantly hit someone in the endzone when the ball was harmless, it cost us then too. He is a rookie but I hope the coaches tell him that that kind of play is not welcome. I loved it, I thought that hit set the tone. That told every hey this isn't the same D as last year, you're not just going to do what you want there. It was worth the 15 yards. Now if he does it again I might be upset. But at that moment that is something that needed to be done. Halo and SaintnDE like this.

09-09-2013, 02:50 AM	#6
lsutigerfan 500th Post Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: born And raised in NOLA, now live in Los Angeles Posts: 811	Re: Saints cheap shots on Matty Lice?? Originally Posted by SaintGup That win was just so sweet but yes, there was a cheap shot on Matt Ryan and I was annoyed because not only did it cost us 15 yards (well, half the distance to the goal) but I never condone anything that we would be mad about if it happened to Drew or any other of our players. And for those of you saying he was already on the way, not true. I dislike the Falcons as much as the next Who Dat but it was a cheap shot and they have a right to be peeved. It was the same I felt when, a few years ago, Roman Harper blatantly hit someone in the endzone when the ball was harmless, it cost us then too. He is a rookie but I hope the coaches tell him that that kind of play is not welcome. I loved it, I thought that hit set the tone. That told every hey this isn't the same D as last year, you're not just going to do what you want there. It was worth the 15 yards. Now if he does it again I might be upset. But at that moment that is something that needed to be done. No more Mr. nice guy on D.

09-08-2013, 07:14 PM	#7
homerj07 In Doh We Trust Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Central Florida Posts: 7,027 Blog Entries: 16	Re: Saints cheap shots on Matty Lice?? Thanks.

09-08-2013, 07:42 PM	#8
cmike 1000 Posts + Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: Gulfport Posts: 1,447	Re: Saints cheap shots on Matty Lice?? I watched the game with a bunch of Falcons fans and they were upset. But after multiple replays they ALL agreed, hey what was Vaccaro to do. He was already going in to make the tackle and Matt slid just before the contact. It was a bang bang play. Should Vaccaro have been flagged? Yes. Was it dirty? Not sure. Judging by the play, it happened so fast that he just committed with his follow through. I put more blame on Matt though, if your gonna slide get down sooner to protect yourself. Drew ran once and slide with no defender within 10 yards. Protect yourself Matt and stop trying to squeak out every yard. Halo, SmashMouth and jlouhill like this.

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Beastmode 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Jul 2010 Posts: 9,126	Re: Saints cheap shots on Matty Lice?? Originally Posted by cmike I put more blame on Matt though, if your gonna slide get down sooner to protect yourself. Drew ran once and slide with no defender within 10 yards. Protect yourself Matt and stop trying to squeak out every yard. Peyton Manning was notorious for trying to squeeze out every last inch and basically crawl into the slide for a couple more yards. Either go down immediately or be prepared to get nailed penalty or no penalty. I think the NFL changed the rule because of him that you are down where you start but not sure. Defenders should not have to pull back the second they go into the motion is how I see it. 30 degree angle or 5 degrees with the ground it should not matter. Until you are on the ground it's open season on the QB.
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09-08-2013, 08:56 PM	#10
Vrillon82 1000 Posts + Join Date: Aug 2012 Posts: 1,127	Re: Saints cheap shots on Matty Lice?? Originally Posted by Beastmode Peyton Manning was notorious for trying to squeeze out every last inch and basically crawl into the slide for a couple more yards. Either go down immediately or be prepared to get nailed penalty or no penalty. I think the NFL changed the rule because of him that you are down where you start but not sure. Defenders should not have to pull back the second they go into the motion is how I see it. 30 degree angle or 5 degrees with the ground it should not matter. Until you are on the ground it's open season on the QB. You down where you start has been a rule for years, most likely enforced during the Steve Young years.
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