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frankeefrank 09-11-2013 06:11 PM

29 Rushes
 
It's a simple stat...
In 2012,we ran the ball 29 or more times... twice.
Both wins.
home vs. Atlanta and at Dallas.

I don't think we ran the ball well against Atlanta, but for the first time in a while I feel like we made an effort to try.

Vrillon82 09-11-2013 06:20 PM

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I think the Falcons defense up front is good vs the Run, I also believe those 4-5 yard gains are huge IMO, I believe the fact you are committed to the run those many times translates into keeping a defense honest even if you dont gain big yards at the end of the day. I think the Falcons defense was on their toes at both phases in the game.

thebdj 09-11-2013 06:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Vrillon82 (Post 526634)
I think the Falcons defense up front is good vs the Run, I also believe those 4-5 yard gains are huge IMO, I believe the fact you are committed to the run those many times translates into keeping a defense honest even if you dont gain big yards at the end of the day. I think the Falcons defense was on their toes at both phases in the game.

Absolutely spot on. We remained committed to the running game and it paid dividends. Brees's stat line was far more sensible. We need to keep doing this week in and week out. The running game will improve and so will the passing game it opens up.

If our O-line can just notch it up a bit and do a slightly better job of protection and forging the gaps then we are in big business.

Rugby Saint II 09-11-2013 07:08 PM

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:bng::bng:
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Originally Posted by thebdj (Post 526642)
Absolutely spot on. We remained committed to the running game and it paid dividends. Brees's stat line was far more sensible. We need to keep doing this week in and week out. The running game will improve and so will the passing game it opens up.

If our O-line can just notch it up a bit and do a slightly better job of protection and forging the gaps then we are in big business.


True Dat!:bng:

papz 09-11-2013 07:14 PM

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Sometimes it's not about the yards, but the respect given knowing we are committed to the run. It holds the safeties and does wonders for our play action passes.

neugey 09-11-2013 07:34 PM

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agreed. and even when we cant run the ball we must involve the backs in the passing game on screens, flats, wheels and curls. gotta make these throws and run the ball to keep graham and moore and colston in single coverage or with some space in zones

jeanpierre 09-11-2013 09:10 PM

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Originally Posted by papz (Post 526660)
Sometimes it's not about the yards, but the respect given knowing we are committed to the run. It holds the safeties and does wonders for our play action passes.

EXACTLY...Without respect for the Run, Play-Action Pass is just Pass...

Plus, you should reward your offensive linemen and allow them to beat up on their defense even if you only get two yards, there is a cumulative effect...

The best facet of a good defense is its own offense's run game - Time of Possession, Controlling the Clock, Dictating the Game Pace...Keeping the opposition out of rhythm...

WhoDat!656 09-11-2013 10:01 PM

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The Saints had the ball 10 minutes more than the bird droppings.

QBREES9 09-11-2013 11:45 PM

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Thats all they needed.

TheOak 09-12-2013 07:24 AM

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Originally Posted by frankeefrank (Post 526627)
It's a simple stat...
In 2012,we ran the ball 29 or more times... twice.
Both wins.
home vs. Atlanta and at Dallas.

I don't think we ran the ball well against Atlanta, but for the first time in a while I feel like we made an effort to try.


NFL is about match ups... When the defensive backfield for Atlanta is full of rookies and second stringers you capitalize on that. It is smart football.

hitta 09-12-2013 07:38 AM

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Many people have blamed Ingram's poor play, but tbh when he got the ball he had no where to run; I'd caution people to not get down on him and have patience . I dunno, I felt like we tried too hard to get the run game going. We sort of tried to force it and instead I think we should have tried to use the passing game to open up the running game; now of course there could have been long term planning by Payton in running the ball as much as we did as it gives notice to future opponents that we are going to try to run the football, which of course causes teams to scheme a bit differently against us.

homerj07 09-12-2013 06:43 PM

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I do believe there is a lot of truth here. Just wish we were doing it a little more successfully

WHODATINCA 09-12-2013 08:20 PM

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I'm watching Ivory shred the Pats D-Line tonight. Remind me again why we cut him? Jesus. The problem may be our O-Line but, I think it is both. Ivory runs with authority and committment. I want him back.

|Mitch| 09-12-2013 08:24 PM

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Originally Posted by WHODATINCA (Post 527018)
Remind me again why we cut him? Jesus.

Because we needed a NT more than a RB... John Jenkins is proving he is more valuable then a back that would get at the most 10 carries a game in our offense

lee909 09-12-2013 08:49 PM

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That's the same Ivory that managed 15 yards on 10 carries at the weekend ir the one that just fumbled.
He will never be healthy enough to worth keeping.


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