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1) No More Excuses, Mark Ingram is now in Bust Territory; can't put it all on the offensive line as other running backs had some success; but his field vision and decision making really bears scrutiny...
2) Malcolm Jenkins makes the decision to bring him back more difficult when he has games like this; he's had two weeks in a row of key plays; but he's still taking poor angles in his coverage (needs to ignore Roman Harper)... 3) Posters of Drew Brees and his agent should be placed in every quarterback's locker with the caption "Sure you don't want to leave any cap room for a Left Tackle?" 4) Rob Ryan still calls predictable, unnecessary blitzes; after doing a stand up job of getting a base package pass rush viable again, he negates with poor blitz calls... 5) Injuries are really catching up to this defense; but it is the deepest defense the Saints have had since you know who... 6) Terron Armstead and Bryce Harris need to get their transition in OverTime! Both Charles Brown and Zach Strief looked horrible in pass protection today... 7) Vaccaro finally looked like a rookie but was bailed out with a wimpy call; but he's the best coverage safety we got and really took away many deep plays... 8) What can we get from San Francisco for a Sixth (6th) round pick? Parys Haralson has looked great for the Black and Gold... 9) Jimmy Graham is the Best Tight End in the NFL; and I dropped an in-his-prime Dallas Clark to keep him on my Keeper League Team! 10) Saints would be lucky to fetch even a fifth round pick for Mark Ingram after today; regardless, if Robinson or Cadet can't be trusted, it's time to bring in Cedric Benson or another FA veteran running back who would've converted that short and goal for a touchdown; those are rest of game morale breakers... |
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11. Don't give up with 1:06 left on the clock!
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Ingram and Brees nearly cost us that game. And I never thought I'd say that about Brees.
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12. Wait til the time expired in the 4th quarter before you press POST
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Brees has 3 td's and 3 picks in 2 games
Vaccaro got beat by a pro bowl WR, growing pains happen for any young defender, he will watch tape and get better, he was in great position just needed to make a better play on the ball Mark ingram - ive stuck up for him constantly, but its time he was traded, we gave up picks for a RB that cant make decisions Feed PT, wish we would have kept joique bell, PT and sproles Jimmy is a beast and got smacked all game, only to come back and make great catches Brees needs to stop forcing passes, i dont know what he saw on the pick 6 but it was embarrassing to watch |
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Defense only given up 7pts and we win only by 2 points!
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Maybe you aren't supposed to spike the ball when there is less than 30 seconds and no timeouts left? WTF?
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Yep, Jenkins actually realized how to play free safety... it's only taken how many years now?!
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I have said I wasn't sure if Ingram was a bust because the d knows he is going to run, but at this point he doesn't gain ****. IDC why, sit him and bring in robinson or cadet, and like someone else said if they're not ready bring in a vet. Something has to give. PT can't handle running the ball 20 times a game for a full season. We need another RB, but MI isn't it.
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I've learned that my heart can't take this last minute drama anymore...AAARRRRGGHHHHHHH.........................
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I think our offense should go more up tempo at the beginning of games so we can get Drew in rhythm.
Pierre Thomas has the best lower body strength on our team and he needs to be our guy in short yardage situation. Even if he gets stuffed, he has the ability to drive forward. Our DL's do a good job at the point of attack and maintain their gaps well. Our linebackers(MLB's in particular) and safeties need to do a better job hitting their gaps limiting plays on the ground. I love Greer but he's not the same player. I think he'll get exposed more as the season goes on. Just my opinion. Our interior line needs to get on their game. Too talented to get pushed around. As great as Jahari has been in the past, he needs to fix his tendency to hold. Tampa Bay is no joke. They're a good HC away from being a contender. Great tackling team with very good talent at every level. Do not underestimate teams period. Cards are up next week. Their offense is much better with Carson Palmer and they also have a lot of talent on their team... albeit a little less Tampa but they make up with it with a better coaching staff. Let's get on our game and play balanced football. I think we crush the Cards next week but using today as a prime example... anything can happen on Sundays. |
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I thought he got away with a handful of jersey.
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I'm a Jenkins supporter but half of the credit on his pick I give to Hicks for being right in the face of Freeman and making him force a ball. It's nice to see Jenkins actually catch a ball though.
Hopefully this game serves as a wake up call on a few points. I too am tired of them forcing the ball into Ingrams hands when he fails to be half of Thomas or Sproles in any situation. |
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Drew is really missing the mark lately so what if it's 3 TD's and 3 INT's after two games. That's too damn many INT's. What is he seeing??
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The good:
I will eat crow on Hartley, he has really made a comeback. Way to go Hartley Graham is the best I agree, and its not even close really. This is the cellar of his career, his ceiling? Jesus scary to think about, especially if you are another teams defense. Defense is definitely overall improved. For the most part Young defensive guys are stepping it up big time when being called due to injury The bad: Defense is still a liability in pass coverage, although not near as much so as last year. Offensive line. Letting Kromer walk was a grave mistake. Period. We have slowly replaced every piece of our offensive line except Evans and downgraded in order to pay other players (Brees) Brees. He is getting older, he is losing his accuracy, which is his best attribute. I think a younger Brees would have been fine behind this line. The bright side is, even though he has lost a step he is still an elite top 5 QB in the league. Thats it for now thanks |
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The line is not giving drew any time, that said he threw some bad balls today, but he was right on target when it mattered most and that is the mark of a winner
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the OL stunk up the place
sorry this two guards to save the world ideology is getting worse ever year. |
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Pat Rob injury open the door for pat swelling? if I spelled that right. I'd rather have Brees than 90% of other quarterbacks anyway. Hopefully the oline gets its shzt together and krob gets to play!
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My example, Steve Hutchinson; everyone raved about Walter Jones and how he made things happen for Shaun Alexander; Hutchinson left for the Vikings, the Seahawks with Alexander and Jones still there tanked, and guess who emerged? Adrian Peterson. But Guards don't score touchdowns and to have what we have committed to two guards is poor salary cap management; especially when there is no money to build around them... |
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1. 2-0 without playing great. I have to give that to the Head Coach even though his decisions today were not correct.
2. Rob Ryan and the defense deserve equal credit if not more for the 2-0 start. Although, there was a clear lack of a pass rush with the DLinemen or with the blitz schemes today. 3. Brees is a tough, not-big, once-young, (see what I did. lol.) dude, but he won't be playing at the end of the season if the O-Line doesn't improve. Part of that can be helped with less predictable play calling and having PT on the field more. 4. It's painful watching Ingram. He has no ability and or/vision to make yards if the hole isn't there. PT and Sproles are CLEARLY more effective in the Saints offense. 5. The injuries on defense, especially along the line, are going to catch up to the Saints. Jordan, Hicks and Jenkins all balled today. But, if one of them goes down, it's not going to be pretty. 6. Lofton, Hawthorne, and Haralson all are playing well and hit people. 7. Lewis and Greer are holding their own at CB and are mostly plaing darn well. 8. Jenkins is looking better at safety. He has the tools. 9. Did Watson get hurt today? His lack of play was noticeable. 10. Graham is a playmaker and a tough dude. I wish they would expose him less down the seam. He takes some shots. 11. White and Reddick continue to shine on special teams. 12. DLP has peaked and his greatest asset to the team is he's cheap. The OLine will have two or maybe even three new starters next year. 13. The Saints play another scrappy but less talented team next week. They need to get up after two tough divisional games and stake an early claim to a top seed in the playoffs. They NEED to play at home in the playoffs. 14. Didn't want to end on 13. WHO DAT! |
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#3. I didn't see as many Brown issues as I did Evans/DLP.
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i am not knocking the guards at all. but they can only do so much to help the other lineman out. the center of the pocket is getting pushed way to far back. the edges are collapsing and drew has no where to go. time for the front office to stop playing this game.
OC is my biggest issue right now. The book is out on the middle of the saints OL. last year and now this year stunts in the middle are killing us. It early to beat the draft drum but if this is not fixed Drew is at major risk. (as of now Tyler Larsen Utah ST. has my eye in the mid rounds ) we all know the OT needs upgrading and we have one in the wings trying to get up to NFL speed. so i am waiting to see what shakes out first |
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He got his @$$ handed to him (i.e. sort of like Rocky got his handed to him by a younger Clubber Lang) by Frisco twice and now Tampa... Brees is an amazing quarterback - no doubt - and this franchise probably isn't as successful without him; but, if he's not smart enough to research the cap room (i.e. Hell, even a member of B&G can do it!) and be a "team" player by leaving some for his teammates, then shame on him... |
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Short yardage I say we go 5 wide.... we can't get a yard with the run game ala Mark Ingram to save r life... hell PT has trouble sometimes to... Just pass the ball ! ! !
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Brees has three INTs against two defenses with real good DB's and under alot of pressure, not worried at all about him.
Ingram... they need to make sure they open the locker room door for him before he tries to go through it because I'm convinced he'll walk right into it. Stay with PT when we have to have the yardage, no brainer. |
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Vaccaro had a bad game, but when P-Rob went down he played a lot of CB. Thats not something he's going to asked to do a lot of in the future.
Jenkins still looks like he's taking bad angles, but its hard to tell from the TV screen. He looks more like the 2010 version than the 2012 version though. Thats a good thing. |
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Well Pshaw. I would GIVE a 7th round pick to get rid of Ingram.
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Brown reminded of some lazy kids having to "run the tree" in gym (equivalent to running a full track lap) barely making the effort and the whole group having to run again; the act of the effort was more work that the actual running; kinda like these people who geaux through all kinds of effort for "crazy checks"... |
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The thing is he had perfect positioning, he just allowed jackson to make a play on the ball better than vaccaro could. he will get it sorted though Agreed w/ jenkins statement aswell, He looked more comfortable center fied just like 2010 when he looked like sharper had taught him alot |
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Even the best safeties and corners let one get by them every now and then.
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