One thing about Tampa
 

These guys are a coach and a QB away from being serious contenders. They added huge pieces on defense this offseason with the intentions of tailor making thier D to stop Drew Brees and the Saints. They have some serious weapons on offense as well. Josh Freeman is not totally inept either. The main problem I saw with this team came from the top. It is obvious the coach does not have control nor the respect of his team. That was some of the most undisiplined football I have seen in my entire life. I have seen high school teams that have their **** together more than Tampa does. This guy continued to make stupid elementary mistakes like not putting enough men on the field.
The decision to go for the field goal at the end of the game ESPECIALLY against the Saints was one of the worst decisions I have ever seen. If they would have punted, we would have lost that game.
If I owned that team he would be fired today.
Anyway I will start my first rant as a semi positive rant. Despite all the stupidness of their coach, Tampa, believe it or not IS a good team, or at least they have the pieces to be. That defense was very stout today, and while our Oline sucked balls, you have to credit their D. This was not a cake walk team as most here were predicting it to be.

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They were down a left guard.....not that it really matters. :roll:

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And while everything you said is true, it seems like you can say the same thing about Tampa every single year.

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This year though, they spent a ****-ton of cap space on the secondary to compete with the Saints and Falcons. Speaking of which, Falcons/Buccaneers could be an awesome game...

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I was just thinking the same. I think the Bucs are going to whip that ass. At least I hope so. That would send Falcons fans over the edge.

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bucs had this game and gave it away.

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The 11 saints would've fallen in that trap game and did ... I think this team has much more resolve and fight than our predecessors ...

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Bucs had the game and gave it away is right. They just couldn't seal the deal.

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That's the difference. The Saints with Payton can finish games, while the Payton-less Saints couldn't. That's the problem with the Yucc's, they have a dead fish for a head coach. (hey, at least Mike Smith is funny to look at when he is mad.).

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This game was pretty ugly for us but I will take the W. Think a lot of things need sorting out over the next week before we play the Cards!

Nice to be 2-0 though, but again, too may injuries.

GEAUX SAINTS.

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Saints had this game And Drew Brees almost gave it away.

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That's what I was thinking ... with TB's new secondary & Carolina dropping games by less than a score, no game on the NFC South intradivisional schedule is going to be a cakewalk for anyone.

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I won't go as far as to say they are going to be as difficult as they were in the past, I will say they are going to be no where predictable.

Last night, Tampon Bay was not any where near good, we just played very sloppy. Should have been a blow out.

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Oh, I didn't get to watch the game that much, (thank-you Mother Nature, :)), but from the final score of NO/TB and from what I've seen of Can'tlanta & Carolina, I was thinking pretty much everyone in the NFC South should expect to go 1-1 against division opponents.

One thing about Tampa
 

We played horrible football, Sean Payton showing rust, Drew having one of "those" games, 3 injuries on D...
I seriously doubt we could have played any worse. I seriously doubt we drop one to TB in the dome.

BTW TB has a d-back that makes Suh look nice, I expect no less than 2 fines to come out of that game. Blatant helmet to helmet spearing.

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Dashon Goldson from the 49ers, gave that defense some attitude...

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Yep, that's what I'm talking about ... keep score and escalate the fines on one, you gotta' keep score and escalate the fines on all ... the problem is the hits just keep on comin' ... pretty soon, the players will all be playing for free or there won't be enough of 'em left to field a team/league, :mrgreen:.

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I know this sounds totally goofy but the NFL ought to consider experimenting with a "penalty box" type of situation instead of fines. Where if you get called for a really blatant illegal hit, you get put in an orange padded box and have to spend X amount of defensive snaps on the sideline before you are let back in.

The fines aren't working, because the players earn so much. And I have no hard proof but I really do believe that coaches or teams are covering for some of the fines, either under the table, or in other ways (signing bonus, workout bonus etc).

But if defensive players were forced to immediately come out the game for leading with the helmet or making cheap shot hits, I think it would reduce them considerably. Because then the coaches and fans would get mad at the players, instead of celebrating them, it would give the backup player some time to make his mark, which would harm a first-string player a lot more than a fine, and make him think twice about doing it again. Because these fines they get are basically what he spends at "the club" with his posse on a typical Saturday night.

It could be something like a 10 play ejection or something. But the fines are definitely NOT working the way Goodell intends them to work; like everything else he does, it blows up in his face.

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Only when the Falcons loose... twice. :clown:

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A coach and a QB away.... That is huge in the NFL.

It only took the Saints 39 years to get those two pieces.

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Good post, I've been thinking something along these lines in that the NFL should take a page from the NHL after watching the Clay Matthews-hit-on-Kaepernick ... in the NHL, there are two guiding principals in awarding penalties, fines, suspensions, et... "did the player leave their feet" and "was there blood/injury, and if so, how extensive?".

I think a clearly defined level of punishment similar to a 'penalty-box' system would do well in the NFL ... make 'em sit for a predetermined amount of time per infraction & force the team to play someone from the bench (shorthanded like in the NHL probably wouldn't work). We could call it a "millionaires time-out", :lol: ... but you're absolutely right, fining millionaires does not work, :mrgreen:.

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I have to say I'm surprised that we were out 'nastied' by the Bucs early. Much like we set the tone with the Falcons and they were bewildered. I DON'T like the number of hits Drew is taking in the pocket tho. Makes me REALLY nervous!

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Yes the Bucs gave the game. But our guys NEVER gave up & they could have very easily. A lot of the people on live chat had just done that.