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todays offensive player
Todays DEfensive player

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Cillinsworth is a douché.

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It's not new, it's been happening for a hundred years. The game has been evolving since its inception.

When they first put helmets on players people whined that they were changing the game. Then they complained about shoulder pads and face masks, then chop blocks and clipping, roughing the passer and roughing the kicker.

Now we understand that using a helmet as a weapon causes concussions. That's fact.

We know more about concussions now than we did 20 years ago. We didn't understand the damage was cumulative. We understand now that concussions shorten peoples lives. The average life expectancy of a retired NFL player is 62 while the national average is 73. They cause premature dementia. A large percentage of ex-NFL players are "punch drunk" They destroy brains way of processing memories. Ex-NFL players have a much higher rate of Alzheimer's. That's science.

If crippling, maiming and causing permanent brain damage can be reduced, then we'd be fools not to do so.

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Goldson suspended? Couldn't happen to a better Richard Cranium. Repeat offender not willing to adjust and has blatantly said he wouldn't.

Ahmad Black? Blatant targeting of Graham; his actions after the hit a dead giveaway to targeting. Timing was obvious too since up to that point Graham was torching them. He actually expected to get flagged. A punk...I would use much, much more colorful language, but kids are on here reading, too. Break his bank account, Heir Goodell, unless you funded that hit yourself since we know how much you love our team.

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Repeat offender. Should be more than one game.

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Probably didn't help his case when they reviewed the game tape and he was laughing about the hit on Sproles.

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The adding of equipment doesn't equate to changing the rules of the game itself. Especially when all the rules are made to hinder defense. Lets not pretend their trying to protect the players. They're trying to protect themselves. The players didn't ask to be protected. That concussion stuff was wrong on the NFL's part, and doesn't fall under the category of "you know what you got into" like everything else. Nobody knew about concussions and their effect more then the NFL and they hid it. Player safety is a reaction to the lawsuits.

There is no such thing as safe football. People are always going to walk away with relatively unhealthy bodies. My body is unhealthy from it and I avoided most contact. And I'd still play if given the chance. At the end of the day we've got a lot of people, myself included, speaking for the people who are actually on the field.

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IDK who wrote your rule book, but going at the head has been fine up until now. Never heard anybody complain about it. You had some running backs who would get mad when you go low and say hit me up high, but its only when the tackle was made and because they were frustrated they got tackled. So yeah, they have unwritten rules, but those weren't it. We can pull up the film from the players of your time. Those head hunting hits were applauded. They're on highlight reels. How do you feel about Deacon Jones and the way he played, because if I'm not mistaken isn't he in the HOF?

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Bill Romanowski did dirty ****. Incognito does dirty ****. Those are the real definitions of dirty players.

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That is a little crazy.

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The league is using him as a scapegoat the same as they used the Saints.
Everyone likes big hits and hard nosed football buy there is s difference in hard and dirty.Wether e like it or not the game is changing and its at that point when s big change is beinh made, in 5 years players will have adapted and young fans wont care and we will sound like our dads/grandads etc reminiscing about the good old days.But with the changes hopefully so will the players . Nothing worse than seeing a childhood hero punch drunk from one to many shots. I know I feel partly guilty for enjoying the big fights, hits, KOs they were in for both our money and our entertainment
Im sure it has nothing to do with the Bucs playing the Pats next week either.

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As for Ahmad Black, he should be banned for that hit on Jimmy. >.<

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I guess I'll accept the fact that in today's litigious society the need for the NFL to protect itself with fines/suspensions and water the game down until Tchaikovsky's Symphony No. 4 is the leagues' theme song, but I don't have to like it, :burn:.

One problem I see already is the consistency of fines/suspensions ... there is none (go figure, eh? :rolleyes:). You got hundreds of these hits going on every week throughout the season, you can't just 'selectively' fine & suspend players ... that in itself invites the lawsuits the league is trying to avoid with all this crap.

Another problem is the guys generating the 'big hits' that are drawing the fines/suspensions are the ones people are buying tickets to see. Start handcuffing your defensive superstars and pretty much all's you have is arena football on a regulation-size field, ridiculous scores of 100-86 and QB's throwing for 1,000yds per game.

I can see a world without football in my future ... or at least not as much football, <sigh>.

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I would say the best defensive players over the last few years have no been dirty though or even nasty hitters.
Von Miller, JJ Watt, Ed Reed,

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Yeah, there's always a few choir-boys that ruin it for the rest of 'em, :lol:.

Football, to me, is by nature a nasty game and I question if the NFL can really regulate it this way. Regardless of how careful you play, questionable contact is gonna' happen. You don't play a contact sport at half-speed thinking about 'not hurting' your opponent ... that's how you get hurt yourself.

Honestly, I think they're gonna' have to come up with some kind of database in order to keep track of an individual/all player's infractions and establish a more consistent way of handing out fines/suspensions then they've demonstrated thus far.

It is a slippery slope the NFL has embarked on, my friends ... but I do totally disagree with the blatant/intentional/targeted stuff when it happens.

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Where is Black's fine/suspension? I thought it was his hit that brought the discipline. Schiano the Douche teaches and encourages this, so when is he getting a year ban?

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That's exactly what I'm talking about ... for each and every fine/suspension they hand out, there will be countless others they don't, giving rise to the equity/integrity/fairness of the whole system ... "the slope is slippery" ... they better get a handle on it or it will be the end of the NFL as we know it ... bet.

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Like it or not, that is the rules of the NFL now. This guy was fined against the Jets and turned around and did it again against the Saints.

His suspension is merited.

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My rule book and the way I was taught to play the game and tackle is quite simple.

The head and feet can fake you out, the numbers never lie. If the numbers move left HE is moving left, always put your face mask in the numbers, wrap, drive, and try to strip.

It's called fundamental football. Hollywood players like yourself missed a lot of tackles going for the head.... Caused a lot of points in open field situations.

Such a paradox.... The Saints couldn't tackle but we condone aiming for the head.

It's like a one handed pop fly catch... Why, what is the point? You have another hand Hollywood, use it and don't risk dropping the ball. Why risk missing the tackles, go for the numbers.

I don't know or care who you were coached by buy bad form is bad form and it leads to bad injuries.

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Conflicting tweets:

@alexmarvez: The NFL has fined Dashon Goldson $100K for his hit on Darren Sproles but he's eligible to play Sunday v. @Patriots, a source told @FOXSports

@LarryHolder: RT @RapSheet: Source: Dashon Goldson won his appeal. He'll play this week.

m.twitter.com/LarryHolder


Clarity:

@LarryHolder: RT @alexmarvez: The NFL has fined Dashon Goldson $100K for his hit on Darren Sproles but he's eligible to play Sunday v. @Patriots, a sourc.

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So looks like Golston is going to have to kill someone on the field to get suspended.

I really feel bad for my son, when he gets to the age where he can understand football, I won't know what the hell he is watching because it will not look anything remotely close to what I grew up watching or what the game looked like 5 years ago.

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Matt Birk can be reached on twitter @BirkMatt

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Appears the Ahmad Black fine was just the small print...

Goldson wasn't the only Buccaneers player to be fined for a hit last Sunday. Safety Ahmad Black was fined $21,000 for a hit on Saints tight end Jimmy Graham, a team source told ESPN NFL Insider Adam Schefter.

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I didn't go through this entire post so sorry if this was already posted.

On Goldson:

Drew Brees - "He’s had a lot of those,’’ Brees said, via ESPN.com. “He certainly has no regard for the rules in the middle. He’s going after guys’ heads. You can see it.

Tom Brady - "Because if I were a safety I’d try to play like him,” Brady said in comments distributed by the team. “He’s a great a player. I played against him last year, always kind of watched him as a 49er and he got his opportunity there after a few years in San Francisco and took advantage of his opportunity. He’s a big part of the reason why that defense was so good last year and then now he’s playing for Tampa, so he’s already made a big impact.

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Will the league pay for Godhells body guards with that money?

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@LarryHolder: Saints RB Darren Sproles on the hit from Bucs S Dashon Goldson: "He tried to hurt me on the play, but he didn't, so it's all good."