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Re: No Running Game

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Originally Posted by thebdj (Post 535543)

Such a key point. Honouring the run game can be as important as being marginally effective in it. I do keep checking the amount of times we run versus pass attempts. Today was a good example of that being a positive. Definitely think we need more balance in conditions like that today but you are 100% right. As long as we honour it, we're good.

Our screen game is our nuclear deterrent. It keeps them honest.... That's all a run game needs to do.

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Our O line needs help.

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Originally Posted by arsaint (Post 535483)

I would agree the running game still doesn't look good, but I was more pleased with the pass protection, so maybe the O line is (pardon the overused expression) starting to gel.

Drew did not seem to be in "run for your life" mode nearly as often this week.

I was encouraged that our running game did better, even in spite of a wet field.Dont get me wrong we are a long way from being where we should be, but we got better and thats something to build on. Our pass protections was head and shoulders above what it has been.

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Originally Posted by ScottF (Post 535569)

okay, Atl & TB are better than their records
Ariz has rebounded to win 2 in a row
Mia & Chi were both unbeaten when we played them

my cleverly-disguised point is this:
without a strong 'traditional' running game, we have already beaten some good teams

Chicago was 3-1. Not unbeaten.

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PT may have struggled but he does more than Ingram.. So why don't we steal a ol from someones PS or something Lol. 5-0 super bowl bound

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I'd much rather we rushed for 125 yards per game and lost. At least we would have a running game and our losses would be "quality" ones.

Oh yeah I live in Indy. The Colts did not have a 100 yd. runner today. The Sea Hags had two. I'll let them know they have to give the win back. I guess we have to also.

:lolup:

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Unrelated, but does anyone else feel uncomfortable watching LT as an analyst

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Originally Posted by thebdj (Post 535490)

Yes, that's exactly what I was saying. You did well to read between the lines there ... ummmm ... no. I wasn't questioning Pierre Thomas, which I had hoped was indicated by the rest of the context around it. I was saying that based on the logic we have crucified Mark Ingram on, we should also hold up Pierre Thomas. And because I don't think Pierre is to blame, I was using that to demonstrate the real problem definitely lies with the O-line. Having said that, the stats do not lie, on the ground we are very poor indeed.

Look at those down-and-1 conversions. They were worrying. You should be able to plough through them and carry on but we were at 4th down far too many times.

We are definitely managing the clock very well but let's understand why we are doing that. That's largely because we are getting the opposition offence off the field so damn quickly. That is our defence doing that great work. And yes Brees throwing the ball about with so much accuracy obviously helps a great deal but I would rather see a balanced game and an improved running game.

Cant we argue about this when it causes us to lose a game. This is a waste of keystrokes. For this version of the Saints at the skill positions the threat is so much more important than the run itself. An effective run opens up the play action..... And the play action today was there.... Robert Meacham was robbed?

This game was about as balanced as the Saints have been... And to the actual running games credit as long as Briggs didn't shoot the gap we were getting 5-6 yards per instead of the Mark Ingrams 1-2 yrds per... and we actually made the a few of the 4-1s' we took vs getting stopped on 4-1 because there was no second effort....

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im taking the dump offs, screens, and third options for brees as more of our running game. the running game is what it is. there will be your 100 yard plus days but it has to do with what payton has on that card. i'm accepting it; its winning and i'm pumped for the next one. and today with the 4th and 1 so many of them was like someone said earlier we just were not stretching the ball out for a better spot and just bad spots by the stripes. unawareness of the line is another our fault. its all good. what a win.

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Originally Posted by alleycat_126 (Post 535638)

Cant we argue about this when it causes us to lose a game.

Nope.

We will talk about all aspects of concern, when it comes to this team and what the unquestioned experts here, think will add to continued success.

:-) LOL